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Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine
Reply #30 - Apr 21^st, 2021 at 2:41pm

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 21^st, 2021 at 2:37pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 12:37am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 10^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2021 at 8:59pm:

Dear Sprint,
it's hard to know what to do with Covid vaccine information:

What if you tell people to take the vaccine and and it kills them?

What if you tell someone not to take the vaccine and Covid kills them?

It's a dilemma.

yes, it is certainly a difficult time. It IS a big decision.

Not for ME, it wasn't

I listened to the SCIENCE - and ignored the CONSPIRACY THEORISTS

I had my first shot of AZ ten days ago - and get my second shot in June

I'm still waiting on notification for this year's FLU SHOT

No you haven't. You've just listened to certain doctors, scientists etc who have toed the party line. That's why you've been able to hear them. Dissenting doctors and scientists have been censored.

If they've been censored, how do we know they're dissenting?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 40705 Gender:	Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine Reply #31 - Apr 22^nd, 2021 at 4:53pm Quote: India reports global record of 314,000 new coronavirus cases, the world's biggest single-day rise https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-22/india-records-world-s-biggest-single-day-...
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Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine
Reply #32 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 12:05am

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 21^st, 2021 at 2:37pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 12:37am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 10^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2021 at 8:59pm:

Dear Sprint,
it's hard to know what to do with Covid vaccine information:

What if you tell people to take the vaccine and and it kills them?

What if you tell someone not to take the vaccine and Covid kills them?

It's a dilemma.

yes, it is certainly a difficult time. It IS a big decision.

Not for ME, it wasn't

I listened to the SCIENCE - and ignored the CONSPIRACY THEORISTS

I had my first shot of AZ ten days ago - and get my second shot in June

I'm still waiting on notification for this year's FLU SHOT

No you haven't. You've just listened to certain doctors, scientists etc who have toed the party line. That's why you've been able to hear them. Dissenting doctors and scientists have been censored.

... speaking of CONSPIRACY THEORISTS

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Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine
Reply #33 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 12:23am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2021 at 4:53pm:

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India reports global record of 314,000 new coronavirus cases, the world's biggest single-day rise

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-22/india-records-world-s-biggest-single-day-...

So with a 2% fatality rate, this means 6200 people will die from that one day.

Also, if there are 300,000 cases in one day, there will be a fair few the next day, and the day after.

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Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine
Reply #36 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:29am

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:26am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 7:58am:

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Why you should get a covid vaccine

Because other people could die if you don't.

But someone who has been vaccinated can also get covid and pass it on to others, which may kill them.

So your point is.....???

That the risk of this if you are vaccinated is far less then if you aren't.

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Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine
Reply #37 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:32am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:29am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:26am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 7:58am:

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Why you should get a covid vaccine

Because other people could die if you don't.

But someone who has been vaccinated can also get covid and pass it on to others, which may kill them.

So your point is.....???

That the risk of this if you are vaccinated is far less then if you aren't.

So far the studies I have seen seem to suggest that whether you are vaccinated or not you can still catch it and transmit it to others.

As far as I'm aware the current crop of vaccines do not provide sterilisation immunity.

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Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine
Reply #38 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:40am

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:29am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:26am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 7:58am:

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Why you should get a covid vaccine

Because other people could die if you don't.

But someone who has been vaccinated can also get covid and pass it on to others, which may kill them.

So your point is.....???

That the risk of this if you are vaccinated is far less then if you aren't.

So far the studies I have seen seem to suggest that whether you are vaccinated or not you can still catch it and transmit it to others.

As far as I'm aware the current crop of vaccines do not provide sterilisation immunity.

Which studies? And even if this is true, it would be at a loiwer rate than not being vaccinated, thus proving the benefit for the vaccination.

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10975 Australia Gender:	Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine Reply #39 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:41am https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinate...
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine Reply #40 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:42am Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:41am: https://i.ibb.co/0qn01jT/covsprd.jpg https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinate... You've just answered yourself, thats why we still vaccinate
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Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine
Reply #41 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:46am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:42am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:41am:

https://i.ibb.co/0qn01jT/covsprd.jpg

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinate...

You've just answered yourself, thats why we still vaccinate

The current crop of vaccines will help you fight the virus and possibly avoid death if you are one of the vulnerable ones.

But that's about the extent of the vaccines.

They do not provide sterilisation immunity.

And once you have been vaccinated you can still catch covid-19 and then transmit it to others.

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Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine
Reply #42 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:50am

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:42am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:41am:

https://i.ibb.co/0qn01jT/covsprd.jpg

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinate...

You've just answered yourself, thats why we still vaccinate

The current crop of vaccines will help you fight the virus and possibly avoid death if you are one of the vulnerable ones.

But that's about the extent of the vaccines.

They do not provide sterilisation immunity.

And once you have been vaccinated you can still catch covid-19 and then transmit it to others.

Just repeating something doesnt negate the fact, its a lowered risk of transmitting. And why are you so focussed on sterilisation immunity, given COVID seems to only termporarily decrease fertility

https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20210129/covid19-reduces-fertility-in-m...

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Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine
Reply #43 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:56am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:50am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:42am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:41am:

https://i.ibb.co/0qn01jT/covsprd.jpg

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinate...

You've just answered yourself, thats why we still vaccinate

The current crop of vaccines will help you fight the virus and possibly avoid death if you are one of the vulnerable ones.

But that's about the extent of the vaccines.

They do not provide sterilisation immunity.

And once you have been vaccinated you can still catch covid-19 and then transmit it to others.

Just repeating something doesnt negate the fact, its a lowered risk of transmitting. And why are you so focussed on sterilisation immunity, given COVID seems to only termporarily decrease fertility

https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20210129/covid19-reduces-fertility-in-m...

Sterilisation Sterilising immunity means that once you have been vaccinated you can no longer transmit the virus.

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Re: Why you should get a covid vaccine
Reply #44 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:58am

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:56am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:50am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:42am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:41am:

https://i.ibb.co/0qn01jT/covsprd.jpg

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinate...

You've just answered yourself, thats why we still vaccinate

The current crop of vaccines will help you fight the virus and possibly avoid death if you are one of the vulnerable ones.

But that's about the extent of the vaccines.

They do not provide sterilisation immunity.

And once you have been vaccinated you can still catch covid-19 and then transmit it to others.

Just repeating something doesnt negate the fact, its a lowered risk of transmitting. And why are you so focussed on sterilisation immunity, given COVID seems to only termporarily decrease fertility

https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20210129/covid19-reduces-fertility-in-m...

Sterilisation immunity means that once you have been vaccinated you can no longer transmit the virus.

https://i.ibb.co/vBtqM4P/SI.jpg

The issue then is your use of the terminology. Sterilisation immunity and sterilising immunity are not the same thing.

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