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Apr 10th, 2021 at 12:10pm
 
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...........   Data from the United Kingdom’s Office for National Statistics found similar results, with roughly 1 in 10 respondents who tested positive for COVID-19 exhibiting symptoms lasting for a period of 12 weeks or longer.

This means that across the world, there may be more than 5 million casesTrusted Source of long COVID.

One 2021 studyTrusted Source found that more than three-quarters of COVID-19 patients in a hospital in Wuhan, China, still had at least one symptom 6 months after their discharge from the hospital.

This is consistent with a 2020 study from Italy that found that 87.4%Trusted Source of COVID-19 patients reported experiencing at least one symptom 2 months after their discharge from the hospital.

A 2020 Swiss study also notes that as many as 1 in 3 people with milder cases COVID-19 were still experiencing symptoms after 6 weeks.

Using a statistical model, a preprint 2020 study found that long COVID is more likely to occur in older adults, people with a higher body mass index (BMI), and females.

It also notes that individuals who experience more than five symptoms during the first week of illness are more likely to develop long COVID.        ..............


https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/long-covid#prevalence
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Reply #1 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 12:12pm
 
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.........   The CDCTrusted Source note a variety of symptoms for COVID-19. They also note that the symptoms that people most commonlyTrusted Source report in long COVID are:

fatigue
shortness of breath
cough
joint pain
chest pain
People may also experience:

brain fog, wherein they find it more difficult to think clearly and focus
depression
muscle pain
headache
fever, which may come and go
heart palpitations, or a feeling of the heart pounding
People may also develop long-term complications that affect the organs. These complications are less common but may include:

inflammation of the heart muscle
abnormal lung function
severe kidney injury
a rash
hair loss
problems with smell and taste
sleep issues
memory and concentration difficulties
anxiety
mood changes    ..............


https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/long-covid#symptoms
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Reply #2 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 12:22pm
 
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Data from the United Kingdom’s Office for National Statistics found similar results, with roughly 1 in 10 respondents who tested positive for COVID-19 exhibiting symptoms lasting for a period of 12 weeks or longer.


It's something that rarely gets discussed by the covid deniers. many people are suffering symptoms that last months
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Reply #3 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 2:29pm
 
i think a lot of those symptoms of "long covid" are psychosomatic sprint.

chronic fatigue syndrome , for example, always seemed like a medical term for "lazy bastard".

"fibromyalgia" seems like a term for sooky wimp.

but the vaccine poses no threat at all.

so you would have to be a coward of the highest order to refuse to have it
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Reply #4 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 2:37pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 10th, 2021 at 2:29pm:
i think a lot of those symptoms of "long covid" are psychosomatic sprint.

chronic fatigue syndrome , for example, always seemed like a medical term for "lazy bastard".

"fibromyalgia" seems like a term for sooky wimp.

but the vaccine poses no threat at all.

so you would have to be a coward of the highest order to refuse to have it


actually they call certain types of cancer chronic fatigue syndrome

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Reply #5 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 3:34pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10th, 2021 at 2:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 10th, 2021 at 2:29pm:
i think a lot of those symptoms of "long covid" are psychosomatic sprint.

chronic fatigue syndrome , for example, always seemed like a medical term for "lazy bastard".

"fibromyalgia" seems like a term for sooky wimp.

but the vaccine poses no threat at all.

so you would have to be a coward of the highest order to refuse to have it


actually they call certain types of cancer chronic fatigue syndrome

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Reply #6 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 4:22pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 10th, 2021 at 2:29pm:
i think a lot of those symptoms of "long covid" are psychosomatic sprint.

chronic fatigue syndrome , for example, always seemed like a medical term for "lazy bastard".

"fibromyalgia" seems like a term for sooky wimp.

but the vaccine poses no threat at all.

so you would have to be a coward of the highest order to refuse to have it


Hang on a minute.

You're the one who said that Covid was nothing more than a cold.

A few sniffles, a slight cough, and that's it.

Surely you'd have to be a coward of the highest order to take a vaccine for a mild cold.

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Reply #7 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 5:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10th, 2021 at 4:22pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 10th, 2021 at 2:29pm:
i think a lot of those symptoms of "long covid" are psychosomatic sprint.

chronic fatigue syndrome , for example, always seemed like a medical term for "lazy bastard".

"fibromyalgia" seems like a term for sooky wimp.

but the vaccine poses no threat at all.

so you would have to be a coward of the highest order to refuse to have it


Hang on a minute.

You're the one who said that Covid was nothing more than a cold.

A few sniffles, a slight cough, and that's it.

Surely you'd have to be a coward of the highest order to take a vaccine for a mild cold.



not at all.


covid would have been an exciting adventure....liking climbing a tricky mountain

the vaccine is about as risky as going up a set of escalators.

in fact, the vaccine would be more exciting if you had a 1 in 100 risk of anaphylaxis and you might get hit with an epipen which would be pretty epic
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Reply #8 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 8:28pm
 
hahhaha - good on you Aqua.
Your posts are one of the few I read here.

Many I just scan over, they are just like looking at a rubbish dump
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Reply #9 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 8:29pm
 
If we were in the US, the UK or Europe, we'ld be running up to a vaccination centre ripping our sleeves up yelling 'jab me here, jab me here.'
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Reply #10 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 8:42pm
 
https://twitter.com/peripatetical/status/1380155287747842058


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...........  So the benefit of getting vaccinated (and not getting COVID) is much higher for older people than younger people.         .............
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Reply #11 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 8:55pm
 
have done some research, it is of interest to me.



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............  ATAGI advised on 25th March 2021 that there was a potential safety concern being investigated overseas, involving cases of thrombosis (blood clots) and thrombocytopenia (low blood platelet count) occurring after COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. On 2 April 2021 ATAGI reported that a probable case had been reported in an Australian vaccine recipient, and issued an updated advice for healthcare providers.         ............


https://www.health.gov.au/news/atagi-statement-on-astrazeneca-vaccine-in-respons...

https://www.pathkindlabs.com/blog/foods-increases-your-blood-platelets-counts


Look after yourself, life a healthy life, get the covid vaccine.


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Reply #12 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 8:59pm
 
Dear Sprint,
it's hard to know what to do with Covid vaccine information:

What if you tell people to take the vaccine and and it kills them?

What if you tell someone not to take the vaccine and Covid kills them?

It's a dilemma.
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Reply #13 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 9:03pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 10th, 2021 at 8:59pm:
Dear Sprint,
it's hard to know what to do with Covid vaccine information:

What if you tell people to take the vaccine and and it kills them?

What if you tell someone not to take the vaccine and Covid kills them?

It's a dilemma.


yes, it is certainly a difficult time.  It IS a big decision.
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.........   Our expert regulator, the Therapeutic Goods Administration (the TGA) has approved both the Pfizer vaccine and the AstraZeneca vaccine under standard (rather than emergency) protocols so we know both are safe and effective.
But all vaccines have some side-effects and sometimes they can be serious. As always, it’s a question of balancing the risks in vaccination against the risks of disease.
So far, based on some 200 million people who’ve received the AstraZeneca vaccine worldwide, between one in 100,000 and one in 250,000 have developed rare and serious blood clots on the brain that seem to be associated with the jab.
Given an infection fatality rate of about six in a thousand for people between 50 and 65 catching COVID, having the AstraZeneca jab is well worth the risk; even more so for the very elderly whose COVID death rate is as much as nine per 100.
That’s why Scott Morrison announced late on Thursday that the AZ jab would only be recommended for people over 50 following updated advice from the TGA; it’s about an abundance of caution.
With more and more people getting vaccinated overseas, our experts have benefited from greater data on which to base this analysis so for us, the delays in shipments of AZ out of Europe has worked in our favour.
But again, perspective is needed. As one commentator put it on Friday: “If you look at the data and see that the chances of getting a blood clot with this vaccine is about four in one million, compared to four in 10,000 for the contraceptive pill, that perspective needs to be highlighted.”
As the government’s medical advisers made clear, it’s not that people under 50 shouldn’t get the AZ jab — health care workers who’ve already had one for instance, are advised to have the second — it’s just that it’s no longer the recommended vaccine for people under 50.
That didn’t stop a predictable spray from an Opposition, desperate to find fault, that the government should have ordered more vaccines and different ones.
Of course, if the government hadn’t placed such a big order with the local vaccine producer CSL, that’s in partnership with AstraZeneca, Labor would have been screaming about lack of support for local jobs. The Prime Minister can’t win, can he?
It’s important to understand that vaccines are being made differently in this pandemic and that difference is relevant.
The AZ vaccine is based on another virus that mimics a COVID infection to trigger the body’s immune response without its life-threatening side effects. Pfizer, by contrast, introduces a genetic code to trick the body into producing COVID antibodies.
At present, CSL lacks the capability to produce these novel gene-based vaccines. To do so, on one academic estimate, would take 12 months and an investment of $100 million.
In fact, just as the federal government was relatively swift to close our borders to the disease in the first place, it was also quick to place massive orders with a range of potential vaccine suppliers — unlike the EU, for instance, which is now seizing the vaccines destined for Australia because it was too late to place orders of its own.
Our initial orders covered Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer, plus the Novavax vaccine that’s yet to be approved, as well the University of Queensland vaccine that’s been discontinued.
Due to the AZ vaccine’s blood clot concerns, the government has just ordered a further 20 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine which should now be enough to cover the 17 million Australians under 50.
The problem is that these are unlikely to be available until late in the year — and could be subject to more EU-style vaccine nationalism — so what’s now in peril is the government’s October timetable for full population vaccination and what’s now at risk is our future freedom from more lockdowns and ongoing travel restrictions.
If I had a choice between the Pfizer vaccine and AstraZeneca, I’ll be upfront and say I’d go with Pfizer. But if the choice were between vaccination and ongoing border closures, I’d take vaccination.      ..............



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