Australian Politics Forum - Coal plant shutdown

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany Reply #15 - Apr 17^th, 2021 at 8:58pm Quote: So what is your preferred renewable energy? I don't have one. Why do you keep asking these silly questions?
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104150 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany Reply #16 - Apr 17^th, 2021 at 9:04pm Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 8:45pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 7:39pm: [url]https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/071/794/498/orig inal/e4fc52aaf9e844ad.jpeg[/url] Wacist!!!!!!! But it's right though isn't it?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17503 Gender:	Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany Reply #17 - Apr 17^th, 2021 at 9:56pm freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 8:58pm: Quote: So what is your preferred renewable energy? I don't have one. Why do you keep asking these silly questions? just to show you are a know nothing. But renewable energy is good.
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Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany
Reply #18 - Apr 17^th, 2021 at 9:59pm

lee wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 9:56pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 8:58pm:

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So what is your preferred renewable energy?

I don't have one. Why do you keep asking these silly questions?

just to show you are a know nothing. But renewable energy is good. Grin

I did not say that renewable energy is good either. Why are you so obsessed?

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Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany
Reply #19 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 11:51am

lee wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 3:02pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 2:00pm:

It's the price that matters Lee.

Only if you can manufacture and site sufficient solar farms and wind farms.

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 2:00pm:

You don't have to pay for the billions of cubic meters of wind that blows through a turbine.

You do have to pay for the structure, the increased demand on materials. Cement, steel, copper, silica.

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 2:00pm:

Light on the other hand is infinitely dense in energy if you consider it as a wave.

And the capture of that has costs associated.

I have posted this before. You seem to have forgotten -

"London Array wind farm to the south of England.This is the world’s largest offshore wind farm and according to its owners will generate “enough energy to power nearly half a million homes.” Its total capacity is 630 MW covering a total of 100 km2, and is expected to have a capacity factor of 39%. In other words the power density of the London Array will be 2.5 W/m2."

" As a result the highest power density achieved is around 20 W/m2 in desert solar PV farms, whereas solar farms in Germany generally achieve 5 W/m2."

"Power densities are comfortably above 100 W/m2 after accounting for mining etc. And conventional power plants often have power densites in excess of 1000 W/m2. A simple example of this higher power density is this small propane powered generator, providing in excess of 1000 W/m2. This is far in excess of the power density of any conceivable new method of generating renewable energy. "

https://energycentral.com/c/ec/future-energy-why-power-density-matters

Perhaps you can refute?

Does that mean dimmer lights at night not to exhaust the clean energy battery supply....?!

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Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany
Reply #20 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 11:52am

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 9:59pm:

lee wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 9:56pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 8:58pm:

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So what is your preferred renewable energy?

I don't have one. Why do you keep asking these silly questions?

just to show you are a know nothing. But renewable energy is good. Grin

I did not say that renewable energy is good either. Why are you so obsessed?

So then what are you arguing for....LOL.... Shocked

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Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany
Reply #21 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 11:54am

Ajax wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 11:52am:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 9:59pm:

lee wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 9:56pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 8:58pm:

Quote:

So what is your preferred renewable energy?

I don't have one. Why do you keep asking these silly questions?

just to show you are a know nothing. But renewable energy is good. Grin

I did not say that renewable energy is good either. Why are you so obsessed?

So then what are you arguing for....LOL.... Shocked

A reduction in GHG emissions.

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Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany
Reply #22 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 11:59am

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 11:54am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 11:52am:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 9:59pm:

lee wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 9:56pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2021 at 8:58pm:

Quote:

So what is your preferred renewable energy?

I don't have one. Why do you keep asking these silly questions?

just to show you are a know nothing. But renewable energy is good. Grin

I did not say that renewable energy is good either. Why are you so obsessed?

So then what are you arguing for....LOL.... Shocked

A reduction in GHG emissions.

WHY today we have one of the lowest amounts of atmospheric CO2 (410 ppm) in the last 600 million years, only one other time has it been as low as today in 600 million years.

And remember if we go below 180 ppm vegetation will stop growing which will collapse the food chain.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany Reply #23 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 12:05pm You know why.
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Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany
Reply #24 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 12:11pm

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 12:05pm:

You know why.

There can only be 2 reasons,

1. Runaway greenhouse effect.........???
The hot spot
Doesn't exist in the real world only on the computer models.

2.The oligarchy establishes their trillion dollar carbon derivatives market and make us pay for the air we breathe.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany Reply #25 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 12:22pm Don't play stupid Ajax. You are a little too convincing.
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Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany
Reply #26 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 12:33pm

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 12:22pm:

Don't play stupid Ajax. You are a little too convincing.

Dont believe me, how about a former PM,

Quote:

“International carbon markets will cover billions of consumers this decade. Ask the bankers at your table whether they want Australia to clip that ticket. We’re going to help them get their share." Julia Gillard

http://www.pm.gov.au/press-office/speech-business-council-australia-dinner

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany Reply #27 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 2:10pm You probably didn't notice, but that quote does not refer to renewables. It does however refer to the cheapest mechanism for reducing GHG emissions.
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Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany
Reply #28 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 2:47pm

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 2:10pm:

You probably didn't notice, but that quote does not refer to renewables. It does however refer to the cheapest mechanism for reducing GHG emissions.

Is that the message you got from that quote...???

Seems to me you missed the point....!!!

Good old Julia was going to help the oligarchy establish their trillion dollar market.

That's how I read it.

I should add by giving Australia one of the biggest carbon taxes in the whole world.

Yet we only emit one percent of all man made emissions.

Was she working for the Australian people or was she working for the banks....???

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17503 Gender:	Re: Coal plant shutdown - Germany Reply #29 - Apr 18^th, 2021 at 3:54pm freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 2:10pm: It does however refer to the cheapest mechanism for reducing GHG emissions. So a carbon market will reduce emissions?
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