freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 6:16pm:



And yet the later data supports the earlier data. The reflection you see is your own. Never mind petal. Keep trying.

Why would Billy be invited exactly ?

He set his plan on the belief that it will cost too much to restrict the warming below 4 to 6 degrees. This is the plan where you allow about 3 billion people to die to save some money because we were too stupid to act in time.

I suspect that they don't invite anyone who has a plan to basically do nothing.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 6:31pm:





The last two studies are from IPCC authors; so according to the. about 0.73C - 0.97C for CO2 up to 1000ppm. Nowhere near the postulate 4-6 degrees.

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 7:17pm:



That's right it is the anomaly with the models also in anomalies, which is in what they actually deal. And all of the graphs show that.

You don't trust the anomalies? NASA/NOAA will not be pleased.

Edit: perhaps you want the 0.9C change in Kelvin on top of the 278Kelvin which is the earth's temperature (approximately).

Dnarever wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 7:30pm:



Perhaps you can direct me to the quote of 3 billion deaths?

And which model DICE, RICE or other?

lee wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 7:34pm:


https://theconversation.com/4-c-of-global-warming-is-optimal-even-nobel-prize-wi...

Quote:


Rockström doesn’t like our chances. “It’s difficult to see how we could accommodate eight billion people or maybe even half of that,” he says (note: this is at a time where the estimated population is 11 Billion). “There will be a rich minority of people who survive with modern lifestyles, no doubt, but it will be a turbulent, conflict-ridden world.” (He is discussing a 4 degree rise)

From <https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/18/climate-crisis-heat-is-on-gl...>




https://www.greenfacts.org/en/impacts-global-warming/l-2/index.htm


In a way it’s an obscene question: if the planet warms by 4 degrees Celsius (°C), would only a billion
people survive and many billions perish? 

From <http://www.climatecodered.org/2019/08/at-4c-of-warming-would-billion-people.html>

Dnarever wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 8:45pm:



So Steve Keen disagrees but no mention of 3 billion.

"Nordhaus’s conclusions are based in part on the simple but wayward assumption that the weak relationship between temperature and GDP within the US today can be used to assume how future global temperature rises will affect the economy."

Much like the weak and wayward relationship between CO2 increase and Temperature.

Ah I see where he got his delusional post about decrease in temperatures and GDP.

"But given the distinct possibility that 2°C of warming could set off a cascade of “tipping points” that cause the planet to irreversibly heat to catastrophic temperatures, can we afford to play with fire?"

Absolute frogshit. There is no point at which we get  "the planet to irreversibly heat to catastrophic temperatures". He is into Climate Seance not Science.

"But that adaptability has occurred in a remarkably stable climate where global temperatures have fluctuated by 1℃ below or above the average for the last 10,000 years."

About the same level as now.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 8:45pm:


AH Rockström, Of the Climate Alarmist PIK.

"We’re looking at vast dead zones in the oceans as nutrients from fertiliser runoff combine with warmer waters to produce an explosion in algae that starve marine life of oxygen. This will be exacerbated by the acidity from dissolved CO2, which will cause a mass die-off, particularly of shellfish, plankton and coral. “We will have lost all the reefs decades before 2100 – at somewhere between 2C and 4C,” says Johan Rockström, director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany."

He doesn't seem to know about the millions of tonnes of Calcium Carbonate in the ocean that buffers any CO2. And the bones of the dead ead corals. dead people, dead whales the list goes on.

"Sea levels will be perhaps two metres higher and, more worryingly, we will be well on our way to an ice-free world, having passed the tipping points for the Greenland and west Antarctic ice sheets, committing us to at least 10 metres of sea-level rise in coming centuries."

Sea level Rise is about 3mm/ year. 80 years = 240 mm about 11inches.





"However, most rivers, especially in Asia, will flood more often, according to research by Richard Betts, head of climate impacts at the Met Office Hadley Centre, because the hotter atmosphere will produce more intense monsoons, violent storms and extreme rainfall. "

And yet that has shown no inkling of changing.

"Consequently, the current assessment is that there is low confidence regarding changes in monsoons at these lower global warming levels, as well as regarding differences in monsoon responses at 1.5°C versus 2°C." source IPCC AR5

"Some models predict that desert conditions will stretch from the Sahara right up through south and central Europe, drying rivers including the Danube and the Rhine"



So much crap in such a small space.

It's basically written on the graph Lee. Did you check that that what you were posting even made sense before posting it? Or does that not matter when you are always full of crap anyway?