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Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe
May 1^st, 2021 at 1:31pm

Time we got this part of this endless and ridiculous argument sorted out...... let us delve into some of these claims.. since It Is Written... and none must deviate from the Paskoran.

https://australianhistory972829073.wordpress.com/

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/timeline-how-bruce-pascoe-became-...

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2021/01/bruce-pascoe-dumped-upon-from-a-grea...

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Reply #1 - May 1^st, 2021 at 2:50pm

Pascoe can at best be described as economical with the truth and more objectively as an outright liar pushing a political agenda rather than an accurate history. The exposure of his false claims has predictably enraged the professional Aboriginals and virtue signalling whites, leading to the standard response of 'RACIST' rather than any counter argument. Roll Eyes

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16142 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe Reply #2 - May 1^st, 2021 at 8:24pm If even 1 archeological site was found supporting his ludicrous claims. It would be screamed on high. But, sadly, there will never be any evidence, as it does not exist.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 42268	Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe Reply #3 - May 1^st, 2021 at 8:29pm National Heritage Places - Budj Bim National Heritage Landscape The detective work behind the Budj Bim eel traps World Heritage bid
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe Reply #4 - May 1^st, 2021 at 9:03pm Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 8:29pm: National Heritage Places - Budj Bim National Heritage Landscape The detective work behind the Budj Bim eel traps World Heritage bid Some aboriginal people may have built fish traps, your point?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49364 At my desk.	Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe Reply #5 - May 1^st, 2021 at 9:09pm Brian doesn't make points. He just says things.
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Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe
Reply #6 - May 1^st, 2021 at 10:24pm

rhino wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 8:29pm:

National Heritage Places - Budj Bim National Heritage Landscape

The detective work behind the Budj Bim eel traps World Heritage bid

Some aboriginal people may have built fish traps, your point?

I refer you to Valkie's comment about there being no evidence to support Pascoe's claims. Budi Bim is evidence... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 47477 Gender:	Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe Reply #7 - May 1^st, 2021 at 10:33pm freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 9:09pm: Brian doesn't make points. He just says things. Mais non - he quotes other people saying things.
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Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe
Reply #8 - May 1^st, 2021 at 10:40pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 1:31pm:

Time we got this part of this endless and ridiculous argument sorted out...... let us delve into some of these claims.. since It Is Written... and none must deviate from the Paskoran.

https://australianhistory972829073.wordpress.com/

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/timeline-how-bruce-pascoe-became-...

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2021/01/bruce-pascoe-dumped-upon-from-a-grea...

Grizzly bears have had aquaculture for even longer than Aboriginese and every year they harvest the salmon.

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Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe
Reply #9 - May 1^st, 2021 at 10:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 10:24pm:

rhino wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 8:29pm:

National Heritage Places - Budj Bim National Heritage Landscape

The detective work behind the Budj Bim eel traps World Heritage bid

Some aboriginal people may have built fish traps, your point?

I refer you to Valkie's comment about there being no evidence to support Pascoe's claims. Budi Bim is evidence... Roll Eyes

And? Valkie may not have been 100 percent semantically correct. Good point. Took you an hour to come up with it, well done,.

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Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe
Reply #10 - May 2^nd, 2021 at 12:56am

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 10:24pm:

rhino wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 8:29pm:

National Heritage Places - Budj Bim National Heritage Landscape

The detective work behind the Budj Bim eel traps World Heritage bid

Some aboriginal people may have built fish traps, your point?

I refer you to Valkie's comment about there being no evidence to support Pascoe's claims. Budi Bim is evidence... Roll Eyes

Fish traps aren't aquaculture.... simple, really... they are built to trap fish for immediate use - not for breeding purposes - hence are not aquaculture.

Why not just accept that they did a pretty good job of it and leave it at that without the embellishment? One can respect the achievements of others without trying to make those achievements more than they are...

One night, down on the farm, I headed out to turn off the pump in the bottom dam, since it was keeping the neighbours awake. turning the flash onto the dam water to see its depth, a huge eel surfaced in the light and rolled around... wow - I said - that dam has been empty for ages before the rains... now look... EELS.

I called the household - "Look, Ma - I created aquaculture!"

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Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe
Reply #11 - May 2^nd, 2021 at 8:27am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 2^nd, 2021 at 12:56am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 10:24pm:

rhino wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 8:29pm:

National Heritage Places - Budj Bim National Heritage Landscape

The detective work behind the Budj Bim eel traps World Heritage bid

Some aboriginal people may have built fish traps, your point?

I refer you to Valkie's comment about there being no evidence to support Pascoe's claims. Budi Bim is evidence... Roll Eyes

Fish traps aren't aquaculture.... simple, really... they are built to trap fish for immediate use - not for breeding purposes - hence are not aquaculture.

Why not just accept that they did a pretty good job of it and leave it at that without the embellishment? One can respect the achievements of others without trying to make those achievements more than they are...

One night, down on the farm, I headed out to turn off the pump in the bottom dam, since it was keeping the neighbours awake. turning the flash onto the dam water to see its depth, a huge eel surfaced in the light and rolled around... wow - I said - that dam has been empty for ages before the rains... now look... EELS.

I called the household - "Look, Ma - I created aquaculture!"

No, I concede, Bwyannnnn may have a point.

I will read up further before in depth comment.

Anecdotally I do remember reading something about this, but it was inconclusive that it was actually man made or a natural phenomenon.

That's one possible point, but may be more an aberration than evidence of a systemic and coordinated harvesting enterprise.

Ill get back to you.

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Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe
Reply #12 - May 2^nd, 2021 at 11:51am

Valkie wrote on May 2^nd, 2021 at 8:27am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 2^nd, 2021 at 12:56am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 10:24pm:

rhino wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 8:29pm:

National Heritage Places - Budj Bim National Heritage Landscape

The detective work behind the Budj Bim eel traps World Heritage bid

Some aboriginal people may have built fish traps, your point?

I refer you to Valkie's comment about there being no evidence to support Pascoe's claims. Budi Bim is evidence... Roll Eyes

Fish traps aren't aquaculture.... simple, really... they are built to trap fish for immediate use - not for breeding purposes - hence are not aquaculture.

Why not just accept that they did a pretty good job of it and leave it at that without the embellishment? One can respect the achievements of others without trying to make those achievements more than they are...

One night, down on the farm, I headed out to turn off the pump in the bottom dam, since it was keeping the neighbours awake. turning the flash onto the dam water to see its depth, a huge eel surfaced in the light and rolled around... wow - I said - that dam has been empty for ages before the rains... now look... EELS.

I called the household - "Look, Ma - I created aquaculture!"

No, I concede, Bwyannnnn may have a point.

I will read up further before in depth comment.

Anecdotally I do remember reading something about this, but it was inconclusive that it was actually man made or a natural phenomenon.

That's one possible point, but may be more an aberration than evidence of a systemic and coordinated harvesting enterprise.

Ill get back to you.

Ah.

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Re: Revelations From the Book Of Pascoe
Reply #13 - May 2^nd, 2021 at 1:11pm

Fair enough - maybe one small group of the vastly divided Kaffir worked out that channeling some of the water made trapping fish easier... probably did a study tour to Canada to observe beavers.. it stands to reason that in any population someone must have come up with a good idea.... for that one place.

Where are the others? Why was the idea not broadcast so all could benefit?

I mean, we're talking about a Pascoe national governance of a peaceful agrarian people who co-operated all round, aren't we? surely a good thing would be spread around the entire continent so all would benefit, eh? Amazing hysterical historical myth - agrarian societies were peaceful but nomadic tribes were not.... societies with established food supplies and even surpluses went after more and more throughout history... but oh, well... jeez - even in the modern Middle East (oxymoron) the small parcel of land hardscrabble farmer fights off his neighbours and any other marauders wanting to take it from him... or in extreme cases becomes a warlord = king etc....

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Reply #14 - May 3^rd, 2021 at 10:24am

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 10:24pm:

rhino wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 8:29pm:

National Heritage Places - Budj Bim National Heritage Landscape

The detective work behind the Budj Bim eel traps World Heritage bid

Some aboriginal people may have built fish traps, your point?

I refer you to Valkie's comment about there being no evidence to support Pascoe's claims. Budi Bim is evidence... Roll Eyes

One area with eel traps does not make a nation of builders of towns/villages & farmers.

They were Hunter Gatherers because they didn't need to be anything else.

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