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Reply #1 - May 1st, 2021 at 4:20pm
 
The cheapest electric vehicle on the market is still more than $44,000.
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Reply #2 - May 1st, 2021 at 4:27pm
 
Virtue-signalling to the left in your new EV



It’s now costing the Norwegian government close to $US1 billion in foregone revenue, so it’s not surprising that some rethinking is going on. The overseas experience is clear on this point: any cuts to EV subsidies quickly lead to a significant drop-off in the demand for EVs.

Let’s mention here that these subsidies are highly regressive – it is overwhelmingly high-income owners who purchase EVs, often as second cars. (When a long trip is planned, it is the petrol/diesel car that’s used – the owners aren’t that stupid.)
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And note here that most batteries are produced in China using coal as the energy source. This means that one quarter of the typical emissions of a petrol/diesel-powered car are generated at this point for EVs with China-sourced batteries.

Taking the average subsidies to EVs, it turns out that the cost of abatement for EVs can be up to 120 times higher than what can be achieved in the electricity sector. As Faith Birol, head of the International Energy Agency (and no climate sceptic) has stated: ‘If you think you can save the climate with electric cars, you’re completely wrong.’

The bottom line is that EVs are a road to nowhere at this point of time.  They may give their high-income owners a sense of smug satisfaction that they are doing right by the planet, but it’s just a grift by another name.
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Reply #3 - May 1st, 2021 at 9:42pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2021 at 4:15pm:


Well of course they do.

The oligarchy through their mouth piece the United Nations have 17 golden conditions they want to bestow upon us plebs AGW religion and all it entails is one of them.

And our government like the puppets that they are will oblige the oligarchy all under the banner of saving our planet.
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Reply #4 - May 1st, 2021 at 9:46pm
 
It's called agenda 2030.

Sounds so nice aren't they wonderful people,

Number 1 on their list is NO POVERTY

Absolutely love those guys , problem is they've been trying to do that for the last 70 years and have failed.

OOPs let me correct that they donot want to lift the 3rd world into the 1st world.

They like the 3rd world were it is.

But arent they wonderful trying with our tax payer dollars.

I think Australia sends $63 million every year along with every other nation so these pigs can keep the office open.

How nice...... Kiss

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Reply #5 - May 1st, 2021 at 9:51pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2021 at 4:20pm:
The cheapest electric vehicle on the market is still more than $44,000.
Huh
Plus 10 or 15 grand to replace the batteries in 5 years time or throw the car away no resale value. Electric is a con.
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Reply #6 - May 1st, 2021 at 9:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2021 at 4:20pm:
The cheapest electric vehicle on the market is still more than $44,000.
Huh


Dan Dan Chinaman will legally compel everyone to buy a Chinese car.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-news/2021-byd-ea1-revealed
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Reply #7 - May 2nd, 2021 at 12:06am
 
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1 in 5 electric vehicle owners in California switched back to gas because charging their cars is a hassle, new research shows


Roughly 20% of electric vehicle owners in California replaced their cars with gas ones, a new study shows.
The main reason drivers made the switch was the inconvenience of charging.
The findings suggest new challenges facing the growth of the nascent electric vehicle market.

In roughly three minutes, you can fill the gas tank of a Ford Mustang and have enough range to go about 483km with its V8 engine.

But for the electric Mustang Mach-E, an hour plugged into a household outlet gave Bloomberg automotive analyst Kevin Tynan just three miles of range.

“Overnight, we’re looking at 58km of range,” he told Insider. “Before I gave it back to Ford, because I wanted to give it back full, I drove it to the office and plugged in at the charger we have there.”


https://www.businessinsider.com.au/electric-car-owners-switching-gas-charging-a-...



How do those who live in cities who don't have a garage and have to park on the street recharge their electric cars?
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Reply #8 - May 2nd, 2021 at 7:55am
 
Australia stuck in slow lane on electric vehicles   Sad 

January 19, 2020
Sydney Morning Herald


Almost a year ago, a Senate inquiry into electric vehicles recommended the federal government lead the way in promoting the uptake of such vehicles. The committee urged the government to set targets for how many electric vehicles might be on the road decades from now, to develop a national strategy with the states about charging infrastructure and commit to transitioning to battery-powered vehicles for the government fleet.

A few weeks later, the Morrison government unveiled what it called a "Climate Solutions Package", a pitifully inadequate five-point policy that effectively relaunched its earlier Direct Action effort. One of the key points of that initiative was a national strategy for electric vehicles. If evidence were needed of the Coalition's history of deflection and indecisiveness about climate change, it is right there in that vacuous, single-page strategy on electric cars.

Put shortly, there is no strategy. There is no policy, no target and so far little evidence of a plan.

And in the weeks before the May election, the Coalition buckled under the hysterical tripe emanating from some conservative commentators that falsely claimed government policies to reduce emissions and shift to electric vehicles would lead to tradies losing their trusty utes. That was symptomatic of the quality of much of the discussion about climate change last year.

Meanwhile, the devastating and continuing bushfires this season have demonstrated climate change is taking hold. It is long past time for the Morrison government – and governments worldwide – to get real about genuine, practical climate-change strategies.


A simple one would be to focus on vehicle emissions and promoting electric vehicle use, perhaps through tax or other financial incentives. And as consumers we should embrace electric vehicles. The concept that they don't suit Australia because of the long distances is largely a furphy. How many of us actually drive those long distances between cities on a regular basis?

According to the Department of Environment and Energy's June quarter update for Australia's greenhouse emissions, transport represented 18.9 per cent of the nation's overall emissions in 2018-19 – second only to emissions generated by electricity-generating power stations.

And the 2017 National Inventory Report on emissions, submitted to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, noted "transport emissions are one of the strongest source[s] of emissions growth in Australia".

Indeed, the department's June quarterly update (the latest available figures) shows the transport sector has experienced the largest increase in emissions of all sectors in the past three decades – up 63.5 per cent from 1990 to June 2019.

Here is a relatively easy policy for the Morrison government that might shift it from the indolent passivity and obstructionist tactics that have hallmarked its approach to climate change, and position it instead as a front-runner stepping into action.


That is what the world's biggest car manufacturers are already doing. That is also what the world's leading economies are doing: China, South Korea, Germany, France, Britain and individual states in the US, as well as Japan, Norway, the Netherlands and more have set targets and are providing incentives for consumers to switch to electric vehicles.

If Prime Minister Scott Morrison really wants to build credibility around climate change strategies, he should act now to promote the uptake of electric cars. Set a target. Change over the fleet. Stop wavering and do it. And we should overcome any bias we may have against electric vehicles – most of the rest of the world has.
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Baronvonrort wrote on May 2nd, 2021 at 12:06am:
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1 in 5 electric vehicle owners in California switched back to gas because charging their cars is a hassle, new research shows


Roughly 20% of electric vehicle owners in California replaced their cars with gas ones, a new study shows.
The main reason drivers made the switch was the inconvenience of charging.
The findings suggest new challenges facing the growth of the nascent electric vehicle market.

In roughly three minutes, you can fill the gas tank of a Ford Mustang and have enough range to go about 483km with its V8 engine.

But for the electric Mustang Mach-E, an hour plugged into a household outlet gave Bloomberg automotive analyst Kevin Tynan just three miles of range.

“Overnight, we’re looking at 58km of range,” he told Insider. “Before I gave it back to Ford, because I wanted to give it back full, I drove it to the office and plugged in at the charger we have there.”


https://www.businessinsider.com.au/electric-car-owners-switching-gas-charging-a-...



How do those who live in cities who don't have a garage and have to park on the street recharge their electric cars?



The problem is that we've been spoiled by the miracle of petrol.
Charging an electric car requires people to be organised.
It also helps if you own your own house and have solar panels on the roof.
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Reply #11 - May 2nd, 2021 at 9:07am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2021 at 8:25am:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 2nd, 2021 at 12:06am:
Quote:
1 in 5 electric vehicle owners in California switched back to gas because charging their cars is a hassle, new research shows


Roughly 20% of electric vehicle owners in California replaced their cars with gas ones, a new study shows.
The main reason drivers made the switch was the inconvenience of charging.
The findings suggest new challenges facing the growth of the nascent electric vehicle market.

In roughly three minutes, you can fill the gas tank of a Ford Mustang and have enough range to go about 483km with its V8 engine.

But for the electric Mustang Mach-E, an hour plugged into a household outlet gave Bloomberg automotive analyst Kevin Tynan just three miles of range.

“Overnight, we’re looking at 58km of range,” he told Insider. “Before I gave it back to Ford, because I wanted to give it back full, I drove it to the office and plugged in at the charger we have there.”


https://www.businessinsider.com.au/electric-car-owners-switching-gas-charging-a-...



How do those who live in cities who don't have a garage and have to park on the street recharge their electric cars?



The problem is that we've been spoiled by the miracle of petrol.
Charging an electric car requires people to be organised.
It also helps if you own your own house and have solar panels on the roof.



So it's another subsidy for the well-off.

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Reply #12 - May 2nd, 2021 at 9:56am
 
Looks like some want people to be chained to the petrol pump.   Sad
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Reply #13 - May 2nd, 2021 at 10:44am
 
whiteknight wrote on May 2nd, 2021 at 9:56am:
Looks like some want people to be chained to the petrol pump.   Sad


The oil and gas industry is in favour of an ETS and carbon taxes on coal.

WHY...?

Because it will kill off the coal industry and usher in the natural gas fired boilers.

Nothing is like petrol or diesel powered automobiles.

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