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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #165 - Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 5:45pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 9:47pm:

They don't want war. They just want China to be honest.

BIG ASK.

Cor blimey, the US is absolutely paranoid about China's economy surpassing the US. "Biden: "not on my watch".... That's why Biden is attempting to get Putin onside....a reversal of the situation in 1971 during the height of the Cold War, when Nixon cosied up to China.

[At the time the US economy was double the size of the USSR, but nuclear capabilities of the two sides were comparable (ensuring MAD). Now China will soon overtake the US economy, so Biden would like to hinder a China/Russian alliance.....but Putin is too smart, he knows (with his nuclear arsenal) he can play an elevated role in the emerging new multipolar world, by keeping his distance from the US].

As for honesty, it is viewed through ideological lenses.

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them; the US - for 20 years - tried and failed to bomb them into submission, resulting in wide-spread poverty in Afghanistan, cf with the increasing living standards in Xinjiang.

Which is the more honest and productive method for dealing with Islamist terrorism?

You like that one, eh?

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #166 - Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:24pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 5:45pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 9:47pm:

They don't want war. They just want China to be honest.

BIG ASK.

Cor blimey, the US is absolutely paranoid about China's economy surpassing the US. "Biden: "not on my watch".... That's why Biden is attempting to get Putin onside....a reversal of the situation in 1971 during the height of the Cold War, when Nixon cosied up to China.

[At the time the US economy was double the size of the USSR, but nuclear capabilities of the two sides were comparable (ensuring MAD). Now China will soon overtake the US economy, so Biden would like to hinder a China/Russian alliance.....but Putin is too smart, he knows (with his nuclear arsenal) he can play an elevated role in the emerging new multipolar world, by keeping his distance from the US].

As for honesty, it is viewed through ideological lenses.

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them; the US - for 20 years - tried and failed to bomb them into submission, resulting in wide-spread poverty in Afghanistan, cf with the increasing living standards in Xinjiang.

Which is the more honest and productive method for dealing with Islamist terrorism?

You like that one, eh?

Oh!

Karnal is speaking whispering out against Chinese totalitarianism (as ambiguously and guardedly as a lefty can speak out against communists).

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #167 - Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:49pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them; the US - for 20 years - tried and failed to bomb them into submission, resulting in wide-spread poverty in Afghanistan, cf with the increasing living standards in Xinjiang.

Which is the more honest and productive method for dealing with Islamist terrorism?

1 million urgurs in concentration camps, thats a lot of terrorists. "arbitrarily detained", we all know what that means.
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Since 2014,[30][31] the Chinese government has subjected Uyghurs living in Xinjiang to widespread abuses that include forced sterilization[32][33][34] and forced labor.[35][36][37][38][39] Scholars estimate that at least one million Uyghurs have been arbitrarily detained in the Xinjiang internment camps since 2017

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs
get ya hand off your dick mate.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #168 - Jul 4^th, 2021 at 10:16pm

rhino wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:49pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them; the US - for 20 years - tried and failed to bomb them into submission, resulting in wide-spread poverty in Afghanistan, cf with the increasing living standards in Xinjiang.

Which is the more honest and productive method for dealing with Islamist terrorism?

1 million urgurs in concentration camps, thats a lot of terrorists. "arbitrarily detained", we all know what that means.
Quote:

Since 2014,[30][31] the Chinese government has subjected Uyghurs living in Xinjiang to widespread abuses that include forced sterilization[32][33][34] and forced labor.[35][36][37][38][39] Scholars estimate that at least one million Uyghurs have been arbitrarily detained in the Xinjiang internment camps since 2017

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs
get ya hand off your dick mate.

Don't you bully the Chinese people. They know what they like.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #169 - Jul 4^th, 2021 at 11:35pm

Bertie wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 5:45pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 9:47pm:

They don't want war. They just want China to be honest.

BIG ASK.

Cor blimey, the US is absolutely paranoid about China's economy surpassing the US. "Biden: "not on my watch".... That's why Biden is attempting to get Putin onside....a reversal of the situation in 1971 during the height of the Cold War, when Nixon cosied up to China.

[At the time the US economy was double the size of the USSR, but nuclear capabilities of the two sides were comparable (ensuring MAD). Now China will soon overtake the US economy, so Biden would like to hinder a China/Russian alliance.....but Putin is too smart, he knows (with his nuclear arsenal) he can play an elevated role in the emerging new multipolar world, by keeping his distance from the US].

As for honesty, it is viewed through ideological lenses.

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them; the US - for 20 years - tried and failed to bomb them into submission, resulting in wide-spread poverty in Afghanistan, cf with the increasing living standards in Xinjiang.

Which is the more honest and productive method for dealing with Islamist terrorism?

You like that one, eh?

Oh!

Karnal is speaking whispering out against Chinese totalitarianism (as ambiguously and guardedly as a lefty can speak out against communists).

Imperialist foreign devil always waiting
Like a running dog, baring his fangs
Only true dialectic materialist principles can unite the proletariat
One leader, one people, moving forward to defeat class struggle
Foreign devil is like an angry old woman screaming in pain
Our collective will is steel

Innit.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #170 - Jul 4^th, 2021 at 11:38pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 11:35pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 5:45pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 9:47pm:

They don't want war. They just want China to be honest.

BIG ASK.

Cor blimey, the US is absolutely paranoid about China's economy surpassing the US. "Biden: "not on my watch".... That's why Biden is attempting to get Putin onside....a reversal of the situation in 1971 during the height of the Cold War, when Nixon cosied up to China.

[At the time the US economy was double the size of the USSR, but nuclear capabilities of the two sides were comparable (ensuring MAD). Now China will soon overtake the US economy, so Biden would like to hinder a China/Russian alliance.....but Putin is too smart, he knows (with his nuclear arsenal) he can play an elevated role in the emerging new multipolar world, by keeping his distance from the US].

As for honesty, it is viewed through ideological lenses.

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them; the US - for 20 years - tried and failed to bomb them into submission, resulting in wide-spread poverty in Afghanistan, cf with the increasing living standards in Xinjiang.

Which is the more honest and productive method for dealing with Islamist terrorism?

You like that one, eh?

Oh!

Karnal is speaking whispering out against Chinese totalitarianism (as ambiguously and guardedly as a lefty can speak out against communists).

Imperialist foreign devil always waiting
Like a running dog, baring his fangs
Only true dialectic materialist principles can unite the people
One leader, one people, moving forward to defeat class struggle
Our collective will is steel

Innit.

From 'you like that one, eh' to frothing rabidly.

No hiding the hoof. Ever.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #171 - Jul 4^th, 2021 at 11:42pm

Bertie wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 11:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 11:35pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 8:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 5:45pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 9:47pm:

They don't want war. They just want China to be honest.

BIG ASK.

Cor blimey, the US is absolutely paranoid about China's economy surpassing the US. "Biden: "not on my watch".... That's why Biden is attempting to get Putin onside....a reversal of the situation in 1971 during the height of the Cold War, when Nixon cosied up to China.

[At the time the US economy was double the size of the USSR, but nuclear capabilities of the two sides were comparable (ensuring MAD). Now China will soon overtake the US economy, so Biden would like to hinder a China/Russian alliance.....but Putin is too smart, he knows (with his nuclear arsenal) he can play an elevated role in the emerging new multipolar world, by keeping his distance from the US].

As for honesty, it is viewed through ideological lenses.

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them; the US - for 20 years - tried and failed to bomb them into submission, resulting in wide-spread poverty in Afghanistan, cf with the increasing living standards in Xinjiang.

Which is the more honest and productive method for dealing with Islamist terrorism?

You like that one, eh?

Oh!

Karnal is speaking whispering out against Chinese totalitarianism (as ambiguously and guardedly as a lefty can speak out against communists).

Imperialist foreign devil always waiting
Like a running dog, baring his fangs
Only true dialectic materialist principles can unite the people
One leader, one people, moving forward to defeat class struggle
Our collective will is steel

Innit.

From 'you like that one, eh' to frothing rabidly.

No hiding the hoof. Ever.

Where are you hiding your Danish hoof, old boy?

Under your wig?

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #173 - Jul 5^th, 2021 at 7:13am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 5:15am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them

Yes... That was the similar Nazi explanation for concentration camps.

History repeating itself.

I think most people put on trains bound for Auschwitz would have much preferred to arrive at a camp in western China

I think most people in Baghdad circa 2000 to 2020 would have preferred a belt and road initiative to operation desert Storm Roll Eyes

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #174 - Jul 5^th, 2021 at 8:58am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 7:13am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 5:15am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them

Yes... That was the similar Nazi explanation for concentration camps.

History repeating itself.

I think most people put on trains bound for Auschwitz would have much preferred to arrive at a camp in western China

I think most people in Baghdad circa 2000 to 2020 would have preferred a belt and road initiative to operation desert Storm Roll Eyes

What about superior White civilisation, Aquascoot?

I believe that's the point Agatha was trying to make before she went off to powder her nose.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #175 - Jul 5^th, 2021 at 9:01am

Karnal wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 8:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 7:13am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 5:15am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them

Yes... That was the similar Nazi explanation for concentration camps.

History repeating itself.

I think most people put on trains bound for Auschwitz would have much preferred to arrive at a camp in western China

I think most people in Baghdad circa 2000 to 2020 would have preferred a belt and road initiative to operation desert Storm Roll Eyes

What about superior White civilisation, Aquascoot?

I believe that's the point Agatha was trying to make before she went off to powder her nose.

Think it was just the white Christians s/he was referring to.

The other sort are up for a red hot poker up the jaccksie.

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #176 - Jul 5^th, 2021 at 10:27am

mothra wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 9:01am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 8:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 7:13am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 5:15am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them

Yes... That was the similar Nazi explanation for concentration camps.

History repeating itself.

I think most people put on trains bound for Auschwitz would have much preferred to arrive at a camp in western China

I think most people in Baghdad circa 2000 to 2020 would have preferred a belt and road initiative to operation desert Storm Roll Eyes

What about superior White civilisation, Aquascoot?

I believe that's the point Agatha was trying to make before she went off to powder her nose.

Think it was just the white Christians s/he was referring to.

The other sort are up for a red hot poker up the jaccksie.

Ah, but the old boy went as far as quoting the tinted, ten rupees-gimme writer and humanist, V.S Naipaul, lauding the merits of Western secular civilisation.

Cunning, no?

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #177 - Jul 5^th, 2021 at 10:32am

Karnal wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 8:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 7:13am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 5:15am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them

Yes... That was the similar Nazi explanation for concentration camps.

History repeating itself.

I think most people put on trains bound for Auschwitz would have much preferred to arrive at a camp in western China

I think most people in Baghdad circa 2000 to 2020 would have preferred a belt and road initiative to operation desert Storm Roll Eyes

What about superior White civilisation, Aquascoot?

I believe that's the point Agatha was trying to make before she went off to powder her nose.

Western civilisation. Your sneaky distorting of what I said is true to your form. Not very white of you, to coin a phrase.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #178 - Jul 5^th, 2021 at 10:34am

Bertie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 8:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 7:13am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 5:15am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them

Yes... That was the similar Nazi explanation for concentration camps.

History repeating itself.

I think most people put on trains bound for Auschwitz would have much preferred to arrive at a camp in western China

I think most people in Baghdad circa 2000 to 2020 would have preferred a belt and road initiative to operation desert Storm Roll Eyes

What about superior White civilisation, Aquascoot?

I believe that's the point Agatha was trying to make before she went off to powder her nose.

Western civilisation.

Your sneaky distorting of what I said is true to your form.

Ah. So Western culture is superior, no?

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #179 - Jul 5^th, 2021 at 10:37am

Bertie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 8:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 7:13am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 5:15am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

eg, China has dealt with fundamentalist Islamist terrorists in Xinjiang by re-educating them

Yes... That was the similar Nazi explanation for concentration camps.

History repeating itself.

I think most people put on trains bound for Auschwitz would have much preferred to arrive at a camp in western China

I think most people in Baghdad circa 2000 to 2020 would have preferred a belt and road initiative to operation desert Storm Roll Eyes

What about superior White civilisation, Aquascoot?

I believe that's the point Agatha was trying to make before she went off to powder her nose.

Western civilisation.

Your sneaky distorting of what I said is true to your form.

I believe your definition was Christian civilisation. You used a secular humanist to back it up.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

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