aquascoot wrote on Jul 6^th, 2021 at 7:51am:

It's something like Groundhog Day with you.

After a few weeks you restart the tractor and plough the same field, whether it needs ploughing or not.

Chinese people are known for their relentless industriousness and capacity for hard work. There'd be few who would deny that and I'm not one who does.

If anything accounts for China's progress from 1980, after Mao had left the nation in ruins and Deng had hauled the regime off the 'narrow path to success' (to borrow your phrase), it was the Chinese people themselves.

And they would have reached the stars under democratic liberalism and have easily been the most respected and greatest democracy on earth and actually would have pulled off a genuine miracle without the sinister backstories as Japan did.

However, it was not to be that easy.

When the regime under Deng realised that the Chinese people really did not need the regime to thrive (beyond anyone's imagination), he knew it had to be stopped.

And when the Chinese people realised that they could succeed beyond anyone's imagination under a liberal democracy, they began to demand one.

That was when the regime struck... They threw the baby out of the bathwater and the enlightened youth under the tanks at Tiananmen Square.

There was to be no economic 'miracle' that this brutal regime would allow unless it maintained absolute control over the enlightened millions and crushed their democratic aspirations; not for the good of the people, but for their own murderous and narcissistic need for control (and, no doubt, from a fear of accountability for the crimes apparatchiks certainly have and would likely have to answer for under a democratic government).

However, for some time, things remained liberal enough to pull off a partial miracle, but much less than the people themselves could have achieved (in the same way Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan and South Korea have done).

Xi Jinping is reversing all that and is returning China to hardline Maoism.

As for building anything big in China, nothing gets started unless the entrepreneur bends the knee to the regime and understands that his/her success exists only at the pleasure of the regime. And for that they will get a ready supply of slave workers or people working at slave-pay rates mostly sourced from impoverished rural areas and forbidden from becoming a part of city life by various regime-imposed restrictions.

And when the entrepreneur falls out with the regime he is gone-gone and his property and wealth confiscated.

996… Heard of it? People in China are expected to work from 9am to 9pm 6 days a week.

If I were to start up a factory under the regime I could 'employ' White Knight and spot of  Borg and thousands of others and have them slaving virtually for little to no wages. I could even get away with not paying them at all to meet regime quotas and/or to stay afloat. They would be living in concrete boxes and forbidden from doing anything in their ‘free time’ except walking around the compound.

The regime exploits slave labour the way Stalin’s gulags and Hitler’s concentration camps did.

And that’s just the start of it. Dissidents can be used for their organs, reportedly sometimes extracted from the victim without anaesthetic.

To support this regime is to have supported Stalin and Hitler.

If that’s who you are, you don’t deserve to live in Australia.

Bertie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2021 at 8:49pm:


i view china giving the west a hard time in the same light i view feminists giving men a hard time, gays giving striaghts a hard time, aetheists giving christians a hard time, migrants giving their new authorities a hard time.

it is the responsibility of all parties to set boundaries, have a spine, stand up for themselves, have courage and a plan, have a direction in life, be willing to put effort into heading in that direction and not pander and backpedal and apologise because that is the convenient thing to do.

the west in dealing with china (and the other noisy minors) has shown

no boundaries
no spine
no courage
no plan
no effort
has apolgised
self loathed

and followed the path of least resistance and has been solely interested in "pleasuring itself"

honestly frank, when i went to china and saw their high speed rail, unlike north, i didnt think that this would be used to transport uwghirs to aushwitz (the north on north view of the world), i saw a country that delighted in moving forward and being "all that it could be"

america of the 1950's

thats what they stole from america.

the correct mode of being 

that sounds like an exageration.

the ughirs for example are a primitive people with no skills.
they get paid, they get skills, they learn the language.
they come out at the other snd, integrated, educated and with skills .

stop pretending that the chinese exploit their people.
their people are getting richer and richer and richer.
they dominate ivy league and western universities.

please fill me in on how many aushwitz jews himmler sent to harvard, yale and princeton for an education 

aquascoot wrote on Jul 6^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

Uighurs, primitive people eh? That's what city Australians say about rural dungheap people like you.

I don't need to pretend that the mainland Chinese people exploit their own (when they don't have access to foreigners). You can check this out for yourself.

Richer and richer eh? Even the Chinese commented that it must be a typo when the regime reported that the annual average wage in China was USD10,000... They thought it was intended to be RMB10,000. Then the joke in China was that the regime was spreading Jack Ma's wealth across the entire country.