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Reply #255 - Jul 12^th, 2021 at 11:46am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 10:56am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

It was Western meddling that bought China back in from the cold.

Selective memory ...no?

What "Western meddling"? The only reason Nixon went to China was to gain a bulwark against the USSR.

Yes... And Mao's bait of offering intelligence to the US about the USSR.

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Reply #256 - Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:02pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 8:35pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:11pm:

No science behind the date, of course, that'll be the 100th year since Mao started raping the country dry.

The sheer idiocy of your blind delusional individual sovereignty ideology on display. (You can't see it because you are ideologically blind, but I will continue to expose the errors in your false narrative).

In 1949, China was a weak, divided agrarian economy.
Today it has democracy ideologues becoming increasingly paranoid, as China's superior economic system ("raped"...) is about to overtake the US.

blind delusional individual sovereignty ideology

Adjectives, adjectives...

Like the Soviets of old... The angrier they got the more they'd string them into a sentence...

'The imperialist, capitalist, blindly ideological, exploiter of the worker...'... zzzzzz... It was customary to nod off half way through... Oh, those Russians with their love of loooooong narratives...

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #257 - Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:58pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:02pm:

blind delusional individual sovereignty ideology

Adjectives, adjectives...

Like the Soviets of old... The angrier they got the more they'd string them into a sentence...

'The imperialist, capitalist, blindly ideological, exploiter of the worker...'... zzzzzz... It was customary to nod off half way through... Oh, those Russians with their love of loooooong narratives...

You obviously did not bother to watch the video posted by athos on the other China thread:

https://youtu.be/li6xcTsVPB4

which explains your simple-minded error in equating the CCP with the Communist Party of the USSR.

In fact it's the Americans who are behaving like the USSR today, in the present geo-political conflict between the US China; watch the video and learn.

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Reply #258 - Jul 12^th, 2021 at 1:02pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:58pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:02pm:

blind delusional individual sovereignty ideology

Adjectives, adjectives...

Like the Soviets of old... The angrier they got the more they'd string them into a sentence...

'The imperialist, capitalist, blindly ideological, exploiter of the worker...'... zzzzzz... It was customary to nod off half way through... Oh, those Russians with their love of loooooong narratives...

You obviously did not bother to watch the video posted by athos on the other China thread:

https://youtu.be/li6xcTsVPB4

which explains your simple-minded error in equating the CCP with the Communist Party of the USSR.

In fact it's the Americans who are behaving like the USSR today, in the present geo-political conflict between the US China; watch the video and learn.

We're all aware of what cracks in a regime looks like...

The Chinese regime is showing them.

Xi's paranoia about security at the 100-party was not because of foreign forces taking a potshot at him... It was a paranoid fear of internal forces taking him out.

There's a rumour he was wearing a bullet-proof vest.

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Reply #259 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 9:35am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:58pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:02pm:

blind delusional individual sovereignty ideology

Adjectives, adjectives...

Like the Soviets of old... The angrier they got the more they'd string them into a sentence...

'The imperialist, capitalist, blindly ideological, exploiter of the worker...'... zzzzzz... It was customary to nod off half way through... Oh, those Russians with their love of loooooong narratives...

You obviously did not bother to watch the video posted by athos on the other China thread:

https://youtu.be/li6xcTsVPB4

which explains your simple-minded error in equating the CCP with the Communist Party of the USSR.

In fact it's the Americans who are behaving like the USSR today, in the present geo-political conflict between the US China; watch the video and learn.

No one in their right mind would watch the hypocritical BS dished up by Athos or any of the other CCP shills like you here.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #261 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 11:51am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 1:02pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:58pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:02pm:

blind delusional individual sovereignty ideology

Adjectives, adjectives...

Like the Soviets of old... The angrier they got the more they'd string them into a sentence...

'The imperialist, capitalist, blindly ideological, exploiter of the worker...'... zzzzzz... It was customary to nod off half way through... Oh, those Russians with their love of loooooong narratives...

You obviously did not bother to watch the video posted by athos on the other China thread:

https://youtu.be/li6xcTsVPB4

which explains your simple-minded error in equating the CCP with the Communist Party of the USSR.

In fact it's the Americans who are behaving like the USSR today, in the present geo-political conflict between the US China; watch the video and learn.

We're all aware of what cracks in a regime looks like...

The Chinese regime is showing them.

Xi's paranoia about security at the 100-party was not because of foreign forces taking a potshot at him... It was a paranoid fear of internal forces taking him out.

There's a rumour he was wearing a bullet-proof vest.

Anyone worth his salt would go for the head and neck shot ... only way to be sure.... look at the guys that got Kennedy.... real pros and military trained, too.... you don't learn that level of skill and co-ordination standing on a soap box.....

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #262 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 11:58am

Gnads wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 9:35am:

No one in their right mind would watch the hypocritical BS dished up by Athos or any of the other CCP shills like you here.

Your democracy ideology is based on delusional individual rights and individual sovereignty concepts which are presumed to be inherent in nature, but which are in fact nothing more than justification for elevation of individual self-interest above well-ordered community relations.

So I'm afraid your opinion of "right-mindedness" is based on an individual freedom" delusion, as explained above.
meanwhile the author of the book "Has China won?' explores the issues in intelligent and non-ideological detail...

https://youtu.be/li6xcTsVPB4?t=4

(copy snd paste into your browser, if you want to learn from someone with high-powered contacts in both Washington and Beijing).

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #263 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:04pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 11:51am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 1:02pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:58pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:02pm:

blind delusional individual sovereignty ideology

Adjectives, adjectives...

Like the Soviets of old... The angrier they got the more they'd string them into a sentence...

'The imperialist, capitalist, blindly ideological, exploiter of the worker...'... zzzzzz... It was customary to nod off half way through... Oh, those Russians with their love of loooooong narratives...

You obviously did not bother to watch the video posted by athos on the other China thread:

https://youtu.be/li6xcTsVPB4

which explains your simple-minded error in equating the CCP with the Communist Party of the USSR.

In fact it's the Americans who are behaving like the USSR today, in the present geo-political conflict between the US China; watch the video and learn.

We're all aware of what cracks in a regime looks like...

The Chinese regime is showing them.

Xi's paranoia about security at the 100-party was not because of foreign forces taking a potshot at him... It was a paranoid fear of internal forces taking him out.

There's a rumour he was wearing a bullet-proof vest.

Anyone worth his salt would go for the head and neck shot ... only way to be sure.... look at the guys that got Kennedy.... real pros and military trained, too.... you don't learn that level of skill and co-ordination standing on a soap box.....

I have no doubt... All apartments' curtains within the vicinity of Tiananmen Square were ordered to be drawn... No 'book depository sniper' was to be offered an easy shot.

Indicates that Xi had reason to be paranoid.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #264 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:06pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 11:51am:

Anyone worth his salt would go for the head and neck shot ... only way to be sure.... look at the guys that got Kennedy.... real pros and military trained, too.... you don't learn that level of skill and co-ordination standing on a soap box.....

Grappler recommending ("worth his salt") murder of a leader with widespread support in his own nation...

Nice moral compass there...to be expected from a deluded Libertarian ideologue.

And today we have the fool Blinken claiming the US doesn't have anything to do with protests in Cuba, despite the crippling sanctions imposed by the deluded democracy ideologues in the US.

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Reply #265 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:28pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 1:02pm:

We're all aware of what cracks in a regime looks like...

Yes, witness the US Capitol riots....

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The Chinese regime is showing them.

China's government has to deal with persistent deluded democracy ideology, a battle for rational government promoting well-ordered community relations over adversarial multi party 'democracy'.... which is merely justification for elevating individual self-interest over well-ordered community relations, so that fools like Bezos can sell joyrides in space to rich people, while entrenched poverty and soaring inequality in the richest country on earth (but not for much longer) are tearing the place apart.

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Xi's paranoia about security at the 100-party was not because of foreign forces taking a potshot at him... It was a paranoid fear of internal forces taking him out.

All leaders have to take security precautions.

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There's a rumour he was wearing a bullet-proof vest.

Smart move. Some right wing ideologues are particularly violent, sick animals, as grappler's remarks prove...and you only need one of them to show up: until the triumph of socialism leads to a universally peaceful and prosperous world, the nut jobs are always a clear and present danger.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #266 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:39pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:28pm:

Smart move. Some right wing ideologues are particularly violent, sick animals, as grappler's remarks prove...and you only need one of them to show up: until the triumph of socialism leads to a universally peaceful and prosperous world, the nut jobs are always a clear and present danger.

And protection against his enemies from within the regime.

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Reply #267 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:49pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:06pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 11:51am:

Anyone worth his salt would go for the head and neck shot ... only way to be sure.... look at the guys that got Kennedy.... real pros and military trained, too.... you don't learn that level of skill and co-ordination standing on a soap box.....

Grappler recommending ("worth his salt") murder of a leader with widespread support in his own nation...

Nice moral compass there...to be expected from a deluded Libertarian ideologue.

And today we have the fool Blinken claiming the US doesn't have anything to do with protests in Cuba, despite the crippling sanctions imposed by the deluded democracy ideologues in the US.

Not 'recommending' anything at all.... just commenting on how it could and probably would be done.

So much for your delusions and English language skills. The grip of propaganda on your small intellect is showing..... trying to twist a comment on possibility of any such action is nowhere near recommending ...

Get a grip, man - there are people watching...

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Reply #268 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:52pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:49pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:06pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 11:51am:

Anyone worth his salt would go for the head and neck shot ... only way to be sure.... look at the guys that got Kennedy.... real pros and military trained, too.... you don't learn that level of skill and co-ordination standing on a soap box.....

Grappler recommending ("worth his salt") murder of a leader with widespread support in his own nation...

Nice moral compass there...to be expected from a deluded Libertarian ideologue.

And today we have the fool Blinken claiming the US doesn't have anything to do with protests in Cuba, despite the crippling sanctions imposed by the deluded democracy ideologues in the US.

Not 'recommending' anything at all.... just commenting on how it could and probably would be done.

So much for your delusions and English language skills. The grip of propaganda on your small intellect is showing..... trying to twist a comment on possibility of any such action is nowhere near recommending ...

Get a grip, man - there are people watching...

The regime has stripped the Chinese of their ability for introspection by denial of free speech.

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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #269 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 1:08pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:52pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:49pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 12:06pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 11:51am:

Anyone worth his salt would go for the head and neck shot ... only way to be sure.... look at the guys that got Kennedy.... real pros and military trained, too.... you don't learn that level of skill and co-ordination standing on a soap box.....

Grappler recommending ("worth his salt") murder of a leader with widespread support in his own nation...

Nice moral compass there...to be expected from a deluded Libertarian ideologue.

And today we have the fool Blinken claiming the US doesn't have anything to do with protests in Cuba, despite the crippling sanctions imposed by the deluded democracy ideologues in the US.

Not 'recommending' anything at all.... just commenting on how it could and probably would be done.

So much for your delusions and English language skills. The grip of propaganda on your small intellect is showing..... trying to twist a comment on possibility of any such action is nowhere near recommending ...

Get a grip, man - there are people watching...

The regime has stripped the Chinese of their ability for introspection by denial of free speech.

That's it, pure and simple - add paranoia and xenophobia and off you go.... runaway train.... lemming like rush into the abyss ........

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