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Reply #270 - Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:06pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 12:52pm:
The regime has stripped the Chinese of their ability for introspection by denial of free speech.


Don't forget to look in the mirror, to see what effect your individual sovereignty delusions are having on your ability for introspection.
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Reply #271 - Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:09pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:06pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 12:52pm:
The regime has stripped the Chinese of their ability for introspection by denial of free speech.


Don't forget to look in the mirror, to see what effect your individual sovereignty delusions are having on your ability for introspection.

I just did. Hung on a wall that is not part of a tofu building.
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Reply #272 - Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:30pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 12:49pm:
Not 'recommending' anything at all.... just commenting on how it could and probably would be done.


.....with your full support, of course....

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So much for your delusions and English language skills.  The grip of propaganda on your small intellect is showing..... trying to twist a comment on possibility of any such action is nowhere near recommending ...


The possibility of such action is one thing, the motivation behind the comment and the fact you would cheer exposes your moral compass.

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Get a grip, man - there are people watching...


I'm aware of that; meanwhile  your Libertarianism based on an egregious individual sovereignty delusion is also on full display. 

Hint: there are no 'individual rights' or 'individual sovereignty' in nature; those concepts are (erroneous) human inventions created in the evolved human neo-cortex.

Nature endows all creatures with survival instincts, and that's it.  Humans will eventually have to create well- ordered community relations via rule of law (including an international rules-based system), or perish.
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Reply #273 - Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:32pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:09pm:
I just did. Hung on a wall that is not part of a tofu building.


And that passes for introspection?....
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Reply #274 - Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:35pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:32pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:09pm:
I just did. Hung on a wall that is not part of a tofu building.


And that passes for introspection?....

That's repartee. With a metaphoric reference.
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Reply #275 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 10:07am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:30pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 12:49pm:
Not 'recommending' anything at all.... just commenting on how it could and probably would be done.


.....with your full support, of course....

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So much for your delusions and English language skills.  The grip of propaganda on your small intellect is showing..... trying to twist a comment on possibility of any such action is nowhere near recommending ...


The possibility of such action is one thing, the motivation behind the comment and the fact you would cheer exposes your moral compass.

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Get a grip, man - there are people watching...


I'm aware of that; meanwhile  your Libertarianism based on an egregious individual sovereignty delusion is also on full display. 

Hint: there are no 'individual rights' or 'individual sovereignty' in nature; those concepts are (erroneous) human inventions created in the evolved human neo-cortex.

Nature endows all creatures with survival instincts, and that's it.  Humans will eventually have to create well- ordered community relations via rule of law (including an international rules-based system), or perish.


Enormously deluded on every point... I'd be happy to see a Xi type tyrant striped of money and power and put to work for a living... no need to kill them....

I could not be bothered arguing all you other silliness about rights and such.... we are, after all, human.... and you reflect what Hitler said about such things clearly.... not that you see that.
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Reply #276 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 5:04pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14th, 2021 at 10:07am:
I could not be bothered arguing all you other silliness about rights and such.... we are, after all, human.... and you reflect what Hitler said about such things clearly.... not that you see that.


You can't debate it, but you don't have to; universal sustainable prosperity is desired by all socially evolved humans, and in fact is a necessity on an ecologically finite and bio-diversity limited planet, and that's why the goal will be reached, by instituting co-operation at all levels while  managing creative competition among naturally self-interested individuals. 
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Reply #277 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 6:09pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 14th, 2021 at 5:04pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14th, 2021 at 10:07am:
I could not be bothered arguing all you other silliness about rights and such.... we are, after all, human.... and you reflect what Hitler said about such things clearly.... not that you see that.


You can't debate it, but you don't have to; universal sustainable prosperity is desired by all socially evolved humans, and in fact is a necessity on an ecologically finite and bio-diversity limited planet, and that's why the goal will be reached, by instituting co-operation at all levels while  managing creative competition among naturally self-interested individuals. 


That's rich seeings the Chinese are the biggest global & internal rapers & pillagers of the environment & wildlife resources on land & sea.

You eat everything that moves & 3/4 of what doesn't .... then turn the rest into traditional medicines - like grinding up endangered Siberian tiger parts, rhino horn & pangolin scales to make potions in an effort to give aging old Chinamen an erection.

Miam miam  Roll Eyes
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Reply #278 - Jul 14th, 2021 at 6:59pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 12:49pm:
Yes - there are shonks here - we are cleaning them out - YOU?  It seems you are sending them here to undermine the foundations (sic) of Western culture by reducing standards in many ways...


The "foundations of Western culture" ie "greed is good"....?

As China achieves middle income status, standards will  continue to rise, on the way to achieving a "moderately prosperous socialist society by 2049"; whereas the West will implode as inequality continues to soar and poverty remains entrenched, courtesy of "greed is good" individual sovereignty ideology.

Though Biden is attempting to deal with unregulated greed, see his latest pronouncements on the US private monoliths/monopolies and their disastrous effects on US society.   


No, the foundations of Western culture is not "greed is good"

Now, how do you explain that China has 626 billionaires, and more millionaires than the US has? That might be "greed is good", have you thought about that?
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Reply #279 - Jul 15th, 2021 at 8:46pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 14th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
No, the foundations of Western culture is not "greed is good"


But so-called 'individual rights' and pursuit of self-interest, over and above well-ordered community relations - self-interest enabling  more competitive individuals to claim more for themselves regardless of outcomes for the less competitive, IS the basis of Western "freedom" culture.

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Now, how do you explain that China has 626 billionaires, and more millionaires than the US has? That might be "greed is good", have you thought about that?


China has 4 times the population of the US, and since the opening up in 1980, wealth has increased in ALL sectors of the Chinesepopulation; so even if number of  millionaires and billionaires are comparable in both countries,  the bottom 50% of the US population has suffered stagnant wage growth since 1980, while  the same demographic in China has experienced the fastest rise in living standards in China's 2200 year history.

China actually believes in the right of all citizens to above poverty employment: whereas in the US, poverty is blamed on the victims.
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Reply #280 - Jul 15th, 2021 at 9:27pm
 
At the third session of the 13th National People's Congress in 2020 alone, deputies to the NPC put forward 506 motions and 9000 suggestions. The people's Congress system is the cornerstone of China's law making, not just “rubber-stamp”.

Democracy should be a process of universal participation, and every citizen should participate in the formulation of national policies. At the same time, the formulation of national policies should not only listen to public opinions, but also be based on reason and science.

Take China's 14th five year plan as an example. After the government put forward the draft, the NPC solicited opinions and suggestions from the whole society through the Internet and the media. More than one million suggestions have been received from Chinese citizens, many of which have been adopted.

In daily life, any dissatisfaction, complaint and suggestion of Chinese citizens to the government can be submitted through the "12345" system of each city. According to the law, any government department must reply and deal with it within 72 hours until the citizens are satisfied. If some government departments treat it negatively, the performance appraisal of their officials will be greatly affected.

Whether it is democracy in which the president is directly elected by vote or multi-level representative democracy in China, I think it’s just different form of democracy.
According to the Munich Security Index in 2021, Chinese people have the highest sense of security in the world. Isn't that exactly the purpose of democracy?


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Re: Why does Aussie Anglo elite want war with China?
Reply #281 - Jul 15th, 2021 at 11:09pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 14th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 10th, 2021 at 12:49pm:
Yes - there are shonks here - we are cleaning them out - YOU?  It seems you are sending them here to undermine the foundations (sic) of Western culture by reducing standards in many ways...


The "foundations of Western culture" ie "greed is good"....?

As China achieves middle income status, standards will  continue to rise, on the way to achieving a "moderately prosperous socialist society by 2049"; whereas the West will implode as inequality continues to soar and poverty remains entrenched, courtesy of "greed is good" individual sovereignty ideology.

Though Biden is attempting to deal with unregulated greed, see his latest pronouncements on the US private monoliths/monopolies and their disastrous effects on US society.   


No, the foundations of Western culture is not "greed is good"

Now, how do you explain that China has 626 billionaires, and more millionaires than the US has? That might be "greed is good", have you thought about that?



Ummmm ... (great divide/athos)... ummmm.... lock in A), Eddie... Chinese billionaires are not the same as other billionaires since they are a better species due to their ancient history and sovereignty over lesser Asian nations... ummmmmm

Meanwhile I'm still trying to get my specialist doctor lady out of China..... go figure.... we are family....
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Reply #282 - Jul 16th, 2021 at 8:14pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 15th, 2021 at 11:09pm:
Ummmm ... (great divide/athos)... ummmm.... lock in A), Eddie... Chinese billionaires are not the same as other billionaires since they are a better species due to their ancient history and sovereignty over lesser Asian nations... ummmmmm


IT especially has resulted in billionaires all around the world.
It's  time governments put an end to the BS, no-one can legitimately think they deserve to "earn" that much wealth.   

Meanwhile China is increasingly dealing with the fake financial-industry economy (note the cancellation of the ANT group IPO), which in the US has destroyed the real economy..., so much so that Biden can't even build 100 kms of HS rail in the US.

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Meanwhile I'm still trying to get my specialist doctor lady out of China..... go figure.... we are family....


Isn't Oz smart enough to produce its own doctors?
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Reply #283 - Jul 16th, 2021 at 9:40pm
 
athos wrote on Jul 15th, 2021 at 9:27pm:
At the third session of the 13th National People's Congress in 2020 alone, deputies to the NPC put forward 506 motions and 9000 suggestions. The people's Congress system is the cornerstone of China's law making, not just “rubber-stamp”.

Democracy should be a process of universal participation, and every citizen should participate in the formulation of national policies. At the same time, the formulation of national policies should not only listen to public opinions, but also be based on reason and science.

Take China's 14th five year plan as an example. After the government put forward the draft, the NPC solicited opinions and suggestions from the whole society through the Internet and the media. More than one million suggestions have been received from Chinese citizens, many of which have been adopted.

In daily life, any dissatisfaction, complaint and suggestion of Chinese citizens to the government can be submitted through the "12345" system of each city. According to the law, any government department must reply and deal with it within 72 hours until the citizens are satisfied. If some government departments treat it negatively, the performance appraisal of their officials will be greatly affected.

Whether it is democracy in which the president is directly elected by vote or multi-level representative democracy in China, I think it’s just different form of democracy.
According to the Munich Security Index in 2021, Chinese people have the highest sense of security in the world. Isn't that exactly the purpose of democracy?




There's a lot of buts in this decree, comrade.

Aquascoot hasn't read it yet, he just needs to find his glasses first.

No rubber stamps here, dear. Just point out the bits with the Gold Coast investment deals and he'll sign where you say, okay?
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Reply #284 - Aug 25th, 2021 at 1:16pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2021 at 9:40pm:
athos wrote on Jul 15th, 2021 at 9:27pm:
At the third session of the 13th National People's Congress in 2020 alone, deputies to the NPC put forward 506 motions and 9000 suggestions. The people's Congress system is the cornerstone of China's law making, not just “rubber-stamp”.

Democracy should be a process of universal participation, and every citizen should participate in the formulation of national policies. At the same time, the formulation of national policies should not only listen to public opinions, but also be based on reason and science.

Take China's 14th five year plan as an example. After the government put forward the draft, the NPC solicited opinions and suggestions from the whole society through the Internet and the media. More than one million suggestions have been received from Chinese citizens, many of which have been adopted.

In daily life, any dissatisfaction, complaint and suggestion of Chinese citizens to the government can be submitted through the "12345" system of each city. According to the law, any government department must reply and deal with it within 72 hours until the citizens are satisfied. If some government departments treat it negatively, the performance appraisal of their officials will be greatly affected.

Whether it is democracy in which the president is directly elected by vote or multi-level representative democracy in China, I think it’s just different form of democracy.
According to the Munich Security Index in 2021, Chinese people have the highest sense of security in the world. Isn't that exactly the purpose of democracy?




There's a lot of buts in this decree, comrade.

Aquascoot hasn't read it yet, he just needs to find his glasses first.

No rubber stamps here, dear. Just point out the bits with the Gold Coast investment deals and he'll sign where you say, okay?


A gibberish reply which didn't address any of the points made.

Fail.


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