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Reply #210 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 10:56am
 
Australia is ruled by the people for the people.  we do not rely on the constitution to dictate when elections can be held.   We rely on the circumstance to dictate when and if an election should be called. We do not allow the constitution to dictate when individuals can stand for an election.  We allow individuals to defend themselves it necessary.  We rely on the government to provide a police force to defend the people.   We are not a Wild West society. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #211 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 3:56pm
 
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 10:56am:
Australia is ruled by the people for the people.  we do not rely on the constitution to dictate when elections can be held.   We rely on the circumstance to dictate when and if an election should be called. We do not allow the constitution to dictate when individuals can stand for an election.  We allow individuals to defend themselves it necessary.  We rely on the government to provide a police force to defend the people.   We are not a Wild West society. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Australia is ruled by the people for the people.


So, please explain the process of how you personally interact with, & order your 'people' about, between elections to ensure all your needs are being met as you ruled they be responded to. 

 
we do not rely on the constitution to dictate when elections can be held.   We rely on the circumstance to dictate when and if an election should be called.


So, say the government ever got out of control, & became tyrannical, & because only a vote of the people can dethrone remove them, please tell me how the circumstances, & not the people, or the offending ruling government, is going to cause the government to call elections & remove themselves from ruling roughshod over you the People if they don't agree to call elections?....How can you force them without elections?......


We do not allow the constitution to dictate when individuals can stand for an election. 



So, individuals can stand for election anytime they wish, they don't need an election to be called????


We allow individuals to defend themselves it <if> necessary. 


But why then are there no weapons permitted by law to be used in self-defense, & if a citizen uses a 'weapon' for such use he/she must defend such use to the governments satisfaction??


We rely on the government to provide a police force to defend the people.   We are not a Wild West society.



We all know that even under the very best of conditions, when vital seconds count, the police are always minutes away (response times vary), arriving just in time to take your statement (if you are able to respond), after the crime(s) have already been committed.....unless you are wealthy enough to have your own body-guard, or personal policeman 24/7 ......

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Reply #212 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 9:09pm
 
You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #213 - Nov 10th, 2021 at 11:00am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 9:09pm:
You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Probably not too unlike ±60% of all Australians who don't completely understand either. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Nevertheless, your explanations (actually the lack of them) clears all that up......you're  clueless about how the Australian society operates!!! ..... Your non-response is proof positive of that!!!  Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #214 - Nov 10th, 2021 at 1:59pm
 

You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #215 - Nov 10th, 2021 at 3:12pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10th, 2021 at 1:59pm:
You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Probably not too unlike ±60% of all Australians who don't completely understand either. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Nevertheless, your explanations (actually the lack of them) clears all that up......you're  clueless about how the Australian society operates!!! ..... Your non-response is proof positive of that!!!  Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #216 - Nov 10th, 2021 at 4:01pm
 

You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Reply #217 - Nov 12th, 2021 at 8:33am
 
Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 3:56pm:
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 10:56am:
Australia is ruled by the people for the people.  we do not rely on the constitution to dictate when elections can be held.   We rely on the circumstance to dictate when and if an election should be called. We do not allow the constitution to dictate when individuals can stand for an election.  We allow individuals to defend themselves it necessary.  We rely on the government to provide a police force to defend the people.   We are not a Wild West society. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



@
Brian Ross


Australia is ruled by the people for the people.


So, please explain the process of how you personally interact with, & order your 'people' about, between elections to ensure all your needs are being met as you ruled they be responded to. 

 
we do not rely on the constitution to dictate when elections can be held.   We rely on the circumstance to dictate when and if an election should be called.


So, say the government ever got out of control, & became tyrannical, & because only a vote of the people can dethrone remove them, please tell me how the circumstances, & not the people, or the offending ruling government, is going to cause the government to call elections & remove themselves from ruling roughshod over you the People if they don't agree to call elections?....How can you force them without elections?......


We do not allow the constitution to dictate when individuals can stand for an election. 



So, individuals can stand for election anytime they wish, they don't need an election to be called????


We allow individuals to defend themselves it <if> necessary. 


But why then are there no weapons permitted by law to be used in self-defense, & if a citizen uses a 'weapon' for such use he/she must defend such use to the governments satisfaction??


We rely on the government to provide a police force to defend the people.   We are not a Wild West society.



We all know that even under the very best of conditions, when vital seconds count, the police are always minutes away (response times vary), arriving just in time to take your statement (if you are able to respond), after the crime(s) have already been committed.....unless you are wealthy enough to have your own body-guard, or personal policeman 24/7 ......



Still can't find the words......lil limp wristed Bwian... tsk...tsk  ...  Grin Grin Grin


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Reply #218 - Nov 12th, 2021 at 4:37pm
 

You live here but you don't understand how our society operates, Panther. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




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⮞Americans Will Nullify Unconstitutional Gun Laws⮜
Reply #219 - Nov 13th, 2021 at 5:44pm
 


Showdown Looms As Dem’s Gun Control Agenda Likely To Meet Stiff Opposition From Nation’s Sheriffs Who Say They Will Not Enforce Unconstitutional Laws


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......Gun control rhetoric from Dems is nothing new, but by holding slim majorities in the House and Senate and with Biden in the White House, they’re feeling emboldened that now is the time to move on a wide variety of gun control measures that had heretofore been stymied by a gun-friendly Trump administration and Republican majorities in at least one of two legislative bodies.

Mostly missing in the national political debate over guns, however, is where law enforcement stands regarding their willingness to enforce proposed or newly enacted gun laws. As Colorado legislators discovered in 2019 and 2020 when ‘red flag’ legislation passed—designed to allow police to seize guns from people suspected of posing a significant danger to themselves or others—laws are meaningless without enforcement. 

Dozens of the state’s 64 sheriffs publicly proclaimed the bill unconstitutional & refused to enforce the new law, with roughly half of the state’s county governments passing resolutions stating that they do not support enforcing such laws or will not, “infringe on the right of the people to keep & bear arms,” as one county board phrased it.

Sheriff Steve Reams of Colorado’s rural Weld County became one of the leading voices opposing the legislation and he made the rounds on the national news talk-show circuit to share his sentiments. “If a judge issues an order saying a person can’t possess weapons, & also compels law enforcement to perform a search warrant to seek out those guns,” said Reams, “I believe that’s a violation of a person’s constitutional rights. I have a hard choice at that point. I can potentially violate someone’s constitutional rights. Or I can violate a court order. I would rather be on the side of violating a court order than someone’s rights.”

At the center of gun rights advocate’s concerns regarding red flag laws is the lack of meaningful due process. “What if a disgruntled ex-lover has a vendetta against their former significant other & wants to use these laws as retaliation?” asks George Brauchler, former District Attorney for Colorado’s Douglas, Arapahoe, Elbert and Lincoln counties, who narrowly lost a bid to become the state’s Attorney General and who has prosecuted some of the nation’s most notorious mass shootings, including the Columbine High School & Aurora Theater massacres. “We expect our justice system to make an abuse of our laws nearly impossible to achieve. Many of these red flag laws do not. A person unfairly targeted by someone using a red flag law isn’t given a fair chance to defend themselves in the court of law before a judge can call for the confiscation of their firearms. There is more due process protecting your privilege to drive than your right to bear arms.”

While 19 states—mostly Democrat controlled— and the District of Columbia have some form of red-flag laws on the books, there are more than 400 sheriffs across the country who consider themselves part of a group labelled the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, a group representing thousands of deputies nationwide. Many of them have gone on-record saying that they will not enforce laws that they view as unconstitutional.

Larimer County Colorado sheriff Justin Smith is one of them. Smith didn’t hesitate to share his views on his Facebook page in an article he titled, “Preserving our Constitutional Republic.” In it he wrote, “…the Sheriff’s duties include the absolute obligation to protect the rights of the citizens of the county, and the Sheriff is accountable directly to those citizens. The Colorado Sheriff occupies this independent office which is not a subservient department of the county, state or federal government….I will not enforce unconstitutional federal laws, obey unconstitutional laws or allow others to violate the constitutional rights of those in my county.”

As the gun control debate heats up, one thing is clear: Americans are exercising their right to keep and bear arms at unprecedented levels. While 2019 was seen as an extraordinary year for gun sales with more than 28 million FBI National Instant Criminal Background Checks (required to purchase a new firearm and a good barometer of overall gun sales), 2020 saw an incredible nearly 40 million NICS checks. According to the NSSF, there are now more than 150 million gun owners in America with nearly 450 million firearms in circulation.

“As elected officials and law enforcement officers,” says Larry Keane, counsel for the NSSF, “Sheriffs take an oath to defend the constitution. That oath extends to the Second Amendment which the Supreme Court held applies to the States and local government. Sheriffs have a legal obligation not to enforce laws that blatantly violate the Second Amendment.”.........



Bluntly, America's Sheriffs, who work DIRECTLY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, not the government, are on record......If any government passes a law that they consider unconstitutional, they wont enforce them.....period


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Reply #220 - Nov 13th, 2021 at 9:02pm
 
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Reply #221 - Nov 14th, 2021 at 11:38am
 
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New Missouri State Law Effectively Ends
Local Enforcement of Federal Gun Laws



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A new and potentially precedent-setting state gun law passed in the spring in Missouri. It's called the
Second Amendment Preservation Act
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SAPA
for short. It prohibits state agencies from helping the federal government enforce any law, rule or regulation which Missouri considers an infringement on the right to bear arms. Each violation can carry a $50,000 penalty.........




Now, it looks like 28 other States are considering passing their own Second Amendment Preservation Act legislation, basically saying to the Feds, you can not infringe on our Citizens Rights in our State, & if you try to enforce your Unconstitutional Laws here, we not only won't help you, we will fine anyone who attempts to enforce these laws within our State $50,000 for attempting to infringe upon our Citizen's Second Amendment Rights!



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Reply #222 - Nov 14th, 2021 at 4:32pm
 
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Reply #223 - Nov 19th, 2021 at 8:06am
 
America’s Sheriffs Say They Will Not Enforce Unconstitutional Gun Laws


Bluntly, America's Sheriffs, who work DIRECTLY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, not the government, are on record......If any government....Federal, State, or Local.....passes a law that they consider unconstitutional, they wont enforce those laws, or aid in enforcing those laws.....period


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