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Reply #15 - May 12^th, 2021 at 8:53am

Israel ramps up airstrikes as barrage of
rockets from Gaza continues

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/11/middleeast/israel-gaza-airstrikes-rockets-int...

By Andrew Carey, Hadas Gold, Kareem Khadder, Abeer Salman, Ofri Eshel, and Ibrahim Dahman, CNN

Updated 2206 GMT (0606 HKT) May 11, 2021

Jerusalem, Ashkelon and Gaza (CNN)Tensions between Israelis and Palestinians escalated further on Tuesday as Palestinian militants in Gaza fired hundreds of rockets into Israel, which in turn ramped up airstrikes on the coastal enclave, as unrest spread to cities and towns beyond Jerusalem.
As both sides traded airstrikes on Tuesday evening, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed the nation from Tel Aviv, saying, "We are in the midst of a significant operation."
Israeli bombing raids across Gaza have killed at least 32 people, including 10 children, according to Palestinian health officials, who also said 203 people have been injured. The Israeli military said it had killed more than 15 militants.

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Reply #16 - May 12^th, 2021 at 8:55am

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57066275

Rockets target Tel Aviv after Gaza tower destroyed

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1 hour ago

Palestinian militants say they fired 130 missiles at the Israeli city of Tel Aviv after an Israeli air strike felled a tower block in the Gaza Strip.

The 13-storey building was attacked an hour and a half after residents and local people were warned to evacuate, Reuters news agency reports.

Israel's military says it is targeting militants in Gaza in response to earlier rocket attacks.

At least 31 people have died in some of the worst violence in years.

The international community has urged both sides to end the escalation, which follows days of unrest in Jerusalem.

Militants had already fired hundreds of rockets towards Jerusalem and other areas.

Three people have been killed in Israeli areas while at least 28 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli air strikes.

Jeremy Bowen: Old grievances fuel new fighting
Residents react to the latest violence
What makes Jerusalem so holy?
The Israel-Palestinian conflict explained

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said earlier that the main militant group, Hamas, had "crossed a red line" by firing rockets towards Jerusalem for the first time in years.

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Reply #17 - May 12^th, 2021 at 12:24pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

Those “nut case muslims” being evicted from their homes you mean?

Wouldn’t you be mad if you were turned out of your own house?

The proper name for the 'West Bank', is Judea.

ALL lands held by moslems in the ME, are STOLEN lands, which belonged to others.

PROPOSITION;
When moslems steal lands, [moslems argue that....] the land belongs to moslems FOREVER.

And if anyone takes back, THEIR OWN ANCIENT HOMELAND, moslems then argue,

"You can't do that!!!" ....."That is stealing!!!"

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IMAGE.....

"Abdullah my brother, the Jews have take our land, and we are a homeless people.
WAIL! WAIL! WAIL!

Those dastardly Zionists!!

We want our land back."

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Human Rights Violations No One Talks About

by Khaled Abu Toameh
February 5, 2021

Last year, the Palestinian Authority (PA) in the West Bank revealed that Hamas was planning to confiscate large areas of privately-owned lands in the Gaza Strip. According to the PA, Hamas formed the Palestinian Land Authority in the Gaza Strip to facilitate "land-theft."

A recent report by the Al Mezan Center for Human Rights documented the death in 2020 of at least 30 Palestinians in various "internal violence" incidents in the Gaza Strip, including six children and four women. Another 155 Palestinians were injured, including 17 children and 19 women.

The ongoing human rights violations by Hamas show that the Islamist movement does not care about reports issued by Palestinian human rights groups such as the Al Mezan Center. The Hamas rulers of the Gaza Strip know that they can continue doing anything they want there because the international community only pays attention when there is way to blame Israel.

......

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16964/gaza-human-rights

[the whole article is just a click away.]

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: War starts in Israel Reply #18 - May 12^th, 2021 at 12:29pm I take it then, Yadda that you an undying supporter of Indigenous Australian Landrights?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103090 Melbourne Gender:	Re: War starts in Israel Reply #19 - May 12^th, 2021 at 12:43pm I put on my prophecy hat - An escalation: The next stage will be Iranian rockets fired out of Lebanon. Iran supplied Hezbollah with rockets many times before - over 10,000 rockets - they still do it and Iran still exists.
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Reply #20 - May 12^th, 2021 at 12:47pm

All the action as Israel comes in through the back door to become the 'new' Empire of the Middle-East (after Germany kicked them out of Europe for telling lies and turning them into Nazis like Frankenstein's curse).

The old Empire (Military) of Islam - for so long being aimed at Christian Europe, is at sixes and sevens with the Israelis (Jews) coming in from behind fresh from a Genocide. The best the Moslems can do is throw stones and act like Palestinians on the back foot.

After Islam gets its 'Messiah' (to counter-balance its Prophet Mohommed, like the Jews got their Prophet Hitler to counter-balance their Jew Messiah Jesus) from the ashes of a genocided and burnt down ruination of France (left alone at the front by the likes of Britain that 'exited' the scene and responsibility, to face the Moslem onslaught to protect Europe).

*yep, don't expect Britain to protect Europe from Islam. Roll Eyes

It's up to the French and the Germans have been 'disarmed' long ago.

Evil Britain strikes again in Europe!

Old Empire of Middle-East = Islam
New Empire of Middle-East = Israel

Poor Islam, even though the Jews now have a loop-hole and are coming into the Middle-East through the back door. Islam must save face and commit to its LAST GREAT HOLY JIHAD (and do to Europe, what the Crusaders did to the Middle-East) and attack Europe (led by France).

Once the powers of Empire have been expended by Islam and their 'Messiah' from France will die for their Moslem sins. Moslems will be disarmed (like those crazed USA citizens who think they have a 'right' to carry weapons as well) and left to wander the world like the wandering Jews of old.

...but that's where the Mafia & Vatican of Italy will rise up even more evil than the jewish created NAZI reaction from Germany. That's where Italy will hunt down and genocide the Moslems around the world. Empire no more and disempowered, genocided Moslems will cry to Allah for help, as no other nations will come to save them (because of their Empire past).
Only one nation: Israel will come to save them and as the new and greatest 'Superpower' this world will ever see. They will smite the Mafia-Vatican from the face of Europe and save the Moslems.

As you can all see the Media crap over Jews v Moslems etc.
But in truth, its all a rouse. Wink

Both Jew and Moslem will 'unite' ...especially when Britain has to 'carry its cross' and be CRUCIFIED for the sins of its 'successful' colonies (unlike Germany's, France's and Italy's).

AHHH, DON'T YAS JUST LOVE ME? Grin

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Reply #21 - May 12^th, 2021 at 12:50pm

From Bobby's article:

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The clashes came amid mounting Palestinian anger over the threatened eviction of families from their homes in East Jerusalem by Jewish settlers

Predictably, the actual root cause of the conflict largely gets ignored save for a token sentence deep into an article.

Some proper context to the latest violence:

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41

Worth emphasising:

- Palestinian families are threatened with eviction because there is a pre-1948 jewish claim to their residence. It needs to be stressed that equivalent Palestinian claims (ie pre-1948 Palestinians who lost their home to jews) are not allowed to be heard according to Israeli law.

- Jews born in East Jerusalem are automatically Israeli citizens. Palestinians born in East Jerusalem are not, and must go through a convoluted application process to get one - which has a very high rejection rate. Furthermore, they can lose their permanent resident status if they spend too much time outside the city.

What these amount to is a racist policy that prejudices against Palestinian residents, pure and simple. What is happening in East Jerusalem is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple. Israel is an apartheid state - pure and simple.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103090 Melbourne Gender:	Re: War starts in Israel Reply #22 - May 12^th, 2021 at 12:50pm JaSin, I hope you are sent to Israel fight against the Muslims.
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Reply #23 - May 12^th, 2021 at 12:51pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:50pm:

From Bobby's article:

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The clashes came amid mounting Palestinian anger over the threatened eviction of families from their homes in East Jerusalem by Jewish settlers

Predictably, the actual root cause of the conflict largely gets ignored save for a token sentence deep into an article.

Some proper context to the latest violence:

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41

Worth emphasising:

Palestinian families are threatened with eviction because there is a pre-1948 jewish claim to their residence. It needs to be stressed that equivalent Palestinian claims (ie pre-1948 Palestinians who lost their home to jews) are not allowed to be heard according to Israeli law.

This is a racist policy, pure and simple. What is happening in East Jerusalem is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple. Israel is an apartheid state - pure and simple.

Do you really think it's all that simple?
How about a history of 5,000 years of war?

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Reply #24 - May 12^th, 2021 at 12:58pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:50pm:

From Bobby's article:

Quote:

The clashes came amid mounting Palestinian anger over the threatened eviction of families from their homes in East Jerusalem by Jewish settlers

Predictably, the actual root cause of the conflict largely gets ignored save for a token sentence deep into an article.

Some proper context to the latest violence:

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41

Worth emphasising:

Palestinian families are threatened with eviction because there is a pre-1948 jewish claim to their residence. It needs to be stressed that equivalent Palestinian claims (ie pre-1948 Palestinians who lost their home to jews) are not allowed to be heard according to Israeli law.

This is a racist policy, pure and simple. What is happening in East Jerusalem is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple. Israel is an apartheid state - pure and simple.

That's pedantic.
You know ISRAEL is the heir apparent to Empire.
You know the Palestinians are still trying to evoke 'Empire' of Islam ways and won't 'bend the knee' to Israel (the Lamb lies down with the Lion).
You know that Israel must keep expanding.
You know Islam must fall and fold as Empire with its last 'justification' (anger management) against Europe's Christians - led by France (because Britain cowardly 'exited' out the back door and Germany is militarily/politically/religiously defused and now in the hands of women).

YOU KNOW ISRAEL IS IN THE RIGHT.
The Palestinians refuse to bend the knee (though will be the first Moslems to seek Israeli help when the Mafia/Vatican Italy comes calling to hunt down all Moslems).

YOU KNOW GANDALF. Wink

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Reply #25 - May 12^th, 2021 at 1:03pm

Bobby. wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:50pm:

From Bobby's article:

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The clashes came amid mounting Palestinian anger over the threatened eviction of families from their homes in East Jerusalem by Jewish settlers

Predictably, the actual root cause of the conflict largely gets ignored save for a token sentence deep into an article.

Some proper context to the latest violence:

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41

Worth emphasising:

Palestinian families are threatened with eviction because there is a pre-1948 jewish claim to their residence. It needs to be stressed that equivalent Palestinian claims (ie pre-1948 Palestinians who lost their home to jews) are not allowed to be heard according to Israeli law.

This is a racist policy, pure and simple. What is happening in East Jerusalem is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple. Israel is an apartheid state - pure and simple.

Do you really think it's all that simple?
How about a history of 5,000 years of war?

I'm not talking about 5000 years of war, I'm talking about the latest surge in violence. And by the way, I have no sympathy whatsoever with Hamas indiscriminately shooting rockets at Israeli civilians.

Who I do have sympathy for though are those Palestinians - born in Israel, yet not afforded the rights and privileges a nation should afford anyone born within their borders - being told that they should hand over the only home they have, that they have been living their entire lives in - to someone whose ancestors might have lived there nearly a century ago.

Hamas are opportunists and vultures. They cynically feed of despair and misery. What is happening in East Jerusalem - which no one, repeat, no one, can deny is blatantly racist and unfair - is what creates despair and misery.

Deal with the despair and misery if you really want lasting peace - not the vultures who feed off it.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #26 - May 12^th, 2021 at 1:07pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 1:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:50pm:

From Bobby's article:

Quote:

The clashes came amid mounting Palestinian anger over the threatened eviction of families from their homes in East Jerusalem by Jewish settlers

Predictably, the actual root cause of the conflict largely gets ignored save for a token sentence deep into an article.

Some proper context to the latest violence:

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41

Worth emphasising:

Palestinian families are threatened with eviction because there is a pre-1948 jewish claim to their residence. It needs to be stressed that equivalent Palestinian claims (ie pre-1948 Palestinians who lost their home to jews) are not allowed to be heard according to Israeli law.

This is a racist policy, pure and simple. What is happening in East Jerusalem is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple. Israel is an apartheid state - pure and simple.

Do you really think it's all that simple?
How about a history of 5,000 years of war?

I'm not talking about 5000 years of war, I'm talking about the latest surge in violence. And by the way, I have no sympathy whatsoever with Hamas indiscriminately shooting rockets at Israeli civilians.

Who I do have sympathy for though are those Palestinians - born in Israel, yet not afforded the rights and privileges a nation should afford anyone born within their borders - being told that they should hand over the only home they have - to someone whose ancestors might have lived there nearly a century ago.

Hamas are opportunists and vultures. They cynically feed of despair and misery. What is happening in East Jerusalem - which no one, repeat, no one, can deny is blatantly racist and unfair - is what create despair and misery.

Deal with the despair and misery if you really want lasting peace - not the vultures who feed of it.

Yes. Many non-aboriginal people have been 'born' in Australia but have no right to reserve them being recognised as 'natives' too.
Aboriginal rights to land stretch back longer than anyone on the planet. They even claimed North America which upset a lot of Amerindians. Grin

Palestinians are usurpers, squatters and forfeit 'any right' with their association with Islam.

...you could almost see the

'green'

Moslems fleeing to their true homeland of

'green'

South America. Wink

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Reply #27 - May 12^th, 2021 at 1:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 1:03pm:

I'm not talking about 5000 years of war, I'm talking about the latest surge in violence. And by the way, I have no sympathy whatsoever with Hamas indiscriminately shooting rockets at Israeli civilians.

Who I do have sympathy for though are those Palestinians - born in Israel, yet not afforded the rights and privileges a nation should afford anyone born within their borders - being told that they should hand over the only home they have, that they have been living their entire lives in - to someone whose ancestors might have lived there nearly a century ago.

Hamas are opportunists and vultures. They cynically feed of despair and misery. What is happening in East Jerusalem - which no one, repeat, no one, can deny is blatantly racist and unfair - is what creates despair and misery.

Deal with the despair and misery if you really want lasting peace - not the vultures who feed off it.

There is no doubt that there is great unfairness and injustice in Israel.
I am wondering how long Israel can last?

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: War starts in Israel Reply #28 - May 12^th, 2021 at 1:28pm give a piece of metal to a Jew and he will make a computer chip, give the same piece of metal to an Arab and he will make a bomb.
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Reply #29 - May 12^th, 2021 at 1:40pm

Out with the Old (Islam)
In with the New (Israel)

....well, that's 'Military' and all things 'Empire'.

Religion on the other hand, its out with the Old Judaism and in with the New Mohommedism. Wink

You can't hold the power to both. It's the gun or the book and it looks like the Jew drops the book and picks up the gun. The Moslem drops the gun and will pick up the book.

It's all about 'choice'. Wink

But Islam and Israel must choose.

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