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Reply #195 - May 18th, 2021 at 1:03pm
 
The Israelis are using American stealth fighters,
American laser guided bombs and
American artillery shells,
America giving $3 billion of free arms per annum to Israel –
the military industrial complex pouring $ billions of weapons into the Middle East -
and America is blocking efforts in the United Nations to stop Israel from killing more people:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57152723
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Mr Biden told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the US was working
with Egypt and other countries on halting hostilities.
But the US again blocked a UN Security Council statement calling for a cessation of violence.
The conflict is now in its second week, with little sign of ending.
At least 212 people, including 61 children, have died in Gaza, and 10, including two children, in Israel.
The US has - for the third time - blocked efforts at the UN Security Council to issue a statement
calling on Israel to stop its military offensive, stressing instead its own diplomatic efforts.




Americans are our friends?
Why doesn’t ScoMo tell them off?
No one will stand up to the Yanks.
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Reply #197 - May 18th, 2021 at 2:48pm
 
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-launches-waves-of-strikes-against-gaza-amid-ra...


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IDF launches waves of strikes against Gaza
amid rare pause in rocket attacks


Rocket fire from Gaza resumes after 6-hour overnight break in attacks as ceasefire efforts increase; IDF chief predicts two more days of fighting

By TOI staff      Today, 6:04 am


Israeli aircraft carried out a series of strikes against targets in the Gaza Strip early Tuesday even as Palestinian terrorists in Gaza appeared to temporarily pause the rocket fire toward Israel.

Rockets were fired toward Israel just before midnight Monday, with no further attacks until dawn Tuesday, when alarms sounded in communities near Gaza and in the town of Netivot.

There were no immediate reports of injuries.

The six-hour break in rocket strikes was the longest since the start of hostilities nine days ago, possibly indicating moves toward a ceasefire were bearing fruit.

Hamas claimed responsibility for the barrage on Netivot, saying it was in response to “Zionist aggression,” an apparent reference to the overnight strikes.
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Reply #198 - May 18th, 2021 at 2:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2021 at 1:03pm:
The Israelis are using American stealth fighters,
American laser guided bombs and
American artillery shells,
America giving $3 billion of free arms per annum to Israel –
the military industrial complex pouring $ billions of weapons into the Middle East -
and America is blocking efforts in the United Nations to stop Israel from killing more people:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57152723
Quote:
Mr Biden told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the US was working
with Egypt and other countries on halting hostilities
.

But the US again blocked a UN Security Council statement calling for a cessation of violence.
The conflict is now in its second week, with little sign of ending.
At least 212 people, including 61 children, have died in Gaza, and 10, including two children, in Israel.
The US has - for the third time - blocked efforts at the UN Security Council to issue a statement
calling on Israel to stop its military offensive
, stressing instead its own diplomatic efforts.





Americans are our friends?

Why doesn’t ScoMo tell them off?

No one will stand up to the Yanks.






bobby,

Will no one will stand up to Hamas and ISLAMIC Jihad, and the MURDEROUS Iranian mullahs ?


bobby,

Should the U.S., Europe, and Australia align our 'humanitarian' concern for actors like Hamas and ISLAMIC Jihad ?

Shiite bobby, why don't we also align ourselves with to objectives of the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and ISLAMIC State too, perhaps ?



bobby,

Did David express 'humanitarian' concerns for those Philistines, who were murdering God's people ?

Or did he condemn them, AS WICKED, UNGODLY MURDERERS AND KILLERS ?


Psalms 139:19
Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20  For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21  Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22  I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
23  Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
24  And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.




bobby,

We should not ally ourselves with wicked people or nations.

If you think that the government of the U.S. is too wicked, for us to align ourselves with them,
then maybe we aught to cut all of our associations with the U.S.

What do you say ?



And what about the UNITED NATIONS bobby ?

What is Australia, doing, being a member of the UNITED NATIONS bobby ?



And the nation of Israel ?

Should all nations cut all ties with Israel,     .....BECAUSE THE ISLAMIC WORLD WANT US TOO ?

What is your opinion bobby ?

Are the Israelis a very, very cruel people, who need our collective condemnation ?

While we cry for the dead, in Gaza, and Iraq, and Jordan, and Nigeria, and Turkey, and Iran, and Pakistan, et al. ?

Should we all bow the knee, to the wicked and murderous representatives in this world, of Allah, bobby ?




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: War starts in Israel
Reply #199 - May 18th, 2021 at 2:53pm
 
dear Yadda,
thou hath misunderstood me.
I call for Israel to use its powerful
weapons to defend against other countries not
to use them on women and children in Gaza.
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Reply #200 - May 18th, 2021 at 3:32pm
 
Yadda wrote on May 18th, 2021 at 2:50pm:
And what about the UNITED NATIONS ?

What is Australia, doing, being a member of the UNITED NATIONS bobby ?

And the nation of Israel ?

Should all nations cut all ties with Israel,     .....BECAUSE THE ISLAMIC WORLD WANT US TOO ?

What is your opinion bobby ?

Are the Israelis a very, very cruel people, who need our collective condemnation ?

While we cry for the dead, in Gaza, and Iraq, and Jordan, and Nigeria, and Turkey, and Iran, and Pakistan, et al. ?

Should we all bow the knee, to the wicked and murderous representatives in this world, of Allah, bobby ?


Well, the sad fact is the UNSC was crippled from inception, when the great powers insisted on the veto right, against the wishes of delegates of smaller nations, as well as men of good will like "Doc" Evatt who resisted adoption of the veto power by the 5 permanent SC members. Evatt lost that debate, with catastrophic consequences only 2 years later,  when the UN voted to partition British mandate Palestine....but the SC was unable to speak with one voice, so Israel and Arabs have been at war ever since.

(The Arab world could legitimately ask whether the UN had a mandate to in effect create a new state; but in any case the UNSC could not mandate or maintain peace between the opposing sides, as  outlined above).

So I have to ask you, would you vote to rid the UNSC of its crippling veto?

ie would you vote to enable the UNSC to defend the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights?
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Reply #201 - May 18th, 2021 at 3:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2021 at 2:53pm:

dear Yadda,
thou hath misunderstood me.
I call for Israel to use its powerful
weapons to defend against other countries not
to use them on women and children in Gaza.




dear bobby,

Israel is using its powerful weapons to kill people who ARE murdering Israeli civilians, and people who want to murder Israeli civilians.

I see no error.

Read on.




bobby,

About a week ago, the ISLAMISTS, Hamas and ISLAMIC Jihad in Gaza, decided to make an 'omelet', with rockets with explosive warheads, sent into civilian areas in Israel.

Now Hamas and ISLAMIC Jihad are complaining to the world community,
that they have too broken eggs ?

Cheesy

Aaaaawwwww, aaaawwwww,  aaaawwwww.     ......poor Hamas.     .....and poor Gazans.
!!!!!!



Psalms 9:11
Sing praises to the LORD, which dwelleth in Zion: declare among the people his doings.
12  When he maketh inquisition for blood, he remembereth them: he forgetteth not the cry of the humble.
13  Have mercy upon me, O LORD; consider my trouble which I suffer of them that hate me, thou that liftest me up from the gates of death:
14  That I may shew forth all thy praise in the gates of the daughter of Zion: I will rejoice in thy salvation.
15  The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which they hid is their own foot taken.
16  The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.




bobby,

If Hamas and ISLAMIC Jihad [i.e. Gazans] had a plan to make an omelet [using dead Israelis as part of their omelet],
why would Hamas and ISLAMIC Jihad be surprised if they got egg on their own face ?



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Reply #202 - May 18th, 2021 at 3:57pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2021 at 3:32pm:
Yadda wrote on May 18th, 2021 at 2:50pm:
And what about the UNITED NATIONS ?

What is Australia, doing, being a member of the UNITED NATIONS bobby ?

And the nation of Israel ?

Should all nations cut all ties with Israel,     .....BECAUSE THE ISLAMIC WORLD WANT US TOO ?

What is your opinion bobby ?

Are the Israelis a very, very cruel people, who need our collective condemnation ?

While we cry for the dead, in Gaza, and Iraq, and Jordan, and Nigeria, and Turkey, and Iran, and Pakistan, et al. ?

Should we all bow the knee, to the wicked and murderous representatives in this world, of Allah, bobby ?


Well, the sad fact is the UNSC was crippled from inception, when the great powers insisted on the veto right, against the wishes of delegates of smaller nations, as well as men of good will like "Doc" Evatt who resisted adoption of the veto power by the 5 permanent SC members. Evatt lost that debate, with catastrophic consequences only 2 years later,  when the UN voted to partition British mandate Palestine....but the SC was unable to speak with one voice, so Israel and Arabs have been at war ever since.

(The Arab world could legitimately ask whether the UN had a mandate to in effect create a new state; but in any case the UNSC could not mandate or maintain peace between the opposing sides, as  outlined above).

So I have to ask you, would you vote to rid the UNSC of its crippling veto?

ie would you vote to enable the UNSC to defend the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights?




It's like the League of Nations - a powerless entity.

Look at the Covid crisis.
the the UN couldn't get the WHO inspectors into China.
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Reply #203 - May 18th, 2021 at 4:19pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2021 at 3:57pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2021 at 3:32pm:
Yadda wrote on May 18th, 2021 at 2:50pm:
And what about the UNITED NATIONS ?

What is Australia, doing, being a member of the UNITED NATIONS bobby ?

And the nation of Israel ?

Should all nations cut all ties with Israel,     .....BECAUSE THE ISLAMIC WORLD WANT US TOO ?

What is your opinion bobby ?

Are the Israelis a very, very cruel people, who need our collective condemnation ?

While we cry for the dead, in Gaza, and Iraq, and Jordan, and Nigeria, and Turkey, and Iran, and Pakistan, et al. ?

Should we all bow the knee, to the wicked and murderous representatives in this world, of Allah, bobby ?


Well, the sad fact is the UNSC was crippled from inception, when the great powers insisted on the veto right, against the wishes of delegates of smaller nations, as well as men of good will like "Doc" Evatt who resisted adoption of the veto power by the 5 permanent SC members. Evatt lost that debate, with catastrophic consequences only 2 years later,  when the UN voted to partition British mandate Palestine....but the SC was unable to speak with one voice, so Israel and Arabs have been at war ever since.

(The Arab world could legitimately ask whether the UN had a mandate to in effect create a new state; but in any case the UNSC could not mandate or maintain peace between the opposing sides, as  outlined above).

So I have to ask you, would you vote to rid the UNSC of its crippling veto?

ie would you vote to enable the UNSC to defend the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights?




It's like the League of Nations - a powerless entity.

Look at the Covid crisis.
the the UN couldn't get the WHO inspectors into China.


Just about.  Had to laugh at what happened when Japan got naughty in the lead up to WW2.  They were given a dressing down at the League of Nations and responded beautifully.....just physically walked out of the chamber and there was nothing the League could do about it.  The Members just watched the exodus with their collective jaws dropped.
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Reply #204 - May 18th, 2021 at 6:29pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 18th, 2021 at 4:19pm:
Just about.  Had to laugh at what happened when Japan got naughty in the lead up to WW2.  They were given a dressing down at the League of Nations and responded beautifully.....just physically walked out of the chamber and there was nothing the League could do about it.  The Members just watched the exodus with their collective jaws dropped.




I know - I saw that on a doco.

The United Nations needs teeth or it will go the same way.

People are dying while those pen pushers do nothing.
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Reply #205 - May 18th, 2021 at 6:32pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 17th, 2021 at 9:45am:
freediver wrote on May 16th, 2021 at 8:47pm:
Is 100 million dead Jews a price worth paying for your final solution?


Far cough with your crap.


You are happy with 10 million dead Jews Aussie. Why not give a straight answer on 100 million dead Jews? I don't think it is unreasonable to ask Aussie. People might want to know if, when you say you want to achieve peace in the middle east, you actually mean a holocaust in which you outdo Hitler on bodycount.
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Reply #206 - May 18th, 2021 at 6:40pm
 
Like I said...far cough with your crap.  I am tired of you totally misrepresenting me, and attempting to put Nazi/holocaust language/nuances into my posts.  That truly offends me.
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Reply #207 - May 18th, 2021 at 6:48pm
 
The war widens with Lebanon now involved.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/six-rockets-fired-at-israel-from-lebanon-idf-respo...

Six rockets fired from Lebanon,
fall short of Israel border; IDF hits back


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United Nations peacekeeping force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) soldiers stand along the border wall with Israel, in the Lebanese village of Adaiseh, on May 15, 2021. (Mahmoud ZAYYAT / AFP)




Six rockets were fired from Lebanon toward Israel late Monday, but they apparently fell short of the border fence. The military said it responded with artillery fire.

The rockets triggered warning sirens in some communities near the border. The army later ordered communities within four kilometers (2.5 miles) of the northern border to open bomb shelters.

There were no injuries reported.

A Lebanese military source confirmed to AFP that several Grad-type rockets had been fired from the Shebaa Farms area in southern Lebanon toward Israel.

The Israel Defense Forces believed that a small Palestinian faction — not the Hezbollah terror group — was responsible for the attack, military spokesperson Hidai Zilberman said on Tuesday morning.
Military responds with artillery fire, orders communities near northern border to open bomb shelters; no injuries reported
By Judah Ari Gross and TOI staff      Today, 12:51 amUpdated at 9:40 am
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Reply #208 - May 19th, 2021 at 10:06am
 
US condemns Erdogan over ‘reprehensible’ antisemitic remarks



Washington denounces Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan for his “antisemitic” comments on the Jewish state.

“The United States strongly condemns President Erdogan’s recent antisemitic comments regarding the Jewish people and finds them reprehensible,” the State Department says.

“We urge President Erdogan and other Turkish leaders to refrain from incendiary remarks, which could incite further violence. We call on Turkey to join the United States in working to end the conflict.

“Antisemitic language has no place anywhere. The United States is deeply committed to combatting antisemitism in all of its forms. We take seriously the violence that often accompanies antisemitism and the dangerous lies that undergird it. We must always counter lies with facts and answer crimes of hate with justice,” it adds.



In this March 24, 2021, file photo, Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan gestures as he speaks during his ruling party’s congress inside a packed sports hall in Ankara, Turkey. (Turkish Presidency via AP, File)
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Erdogan has accused Israel of “terrorism” against the Palestinians and recently said, “It is in their nature.”

“They are murderers, to the point that they kill children who are five or six years old. They only are satisfied by sucking their blood,” he said.


Erdogan on Monday said US President Joe Biden had “bloody hands” because of his support of Israel in the raging conflict in the Gaza Strip.

“Palestine territories are awash with persecution, suffering and blood, like many other territories that lost the peace with the end of the Ottomans. And you are supporting that,” Erdogan told Biden.

He also lashed out at Austria for flying the flag of Israel in a sign of solidarity with the Jewish state last week.

“I condemn Austria for hanging the Israeli terror state’s flag,” Erdogan said.

“The Austrian state seems to be trying to make Muslims pay the price for (its role) in the Holocaust.”
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Reply #209 - May 19th, 2021 at 1:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 17th, 2021 at 8:00pm:

Just heard on TV.

The shooting is expected to stop on Wednesday from both sides.




Just witnessed on TV......

A Gazan complains to a TV journalist....

"We don't have electricity."
"We don't have internet."
"We don't have water."
"What should we do ?"



I'll tell you what you should do !

Go to Hamas and to ISLAMIC Jihad in Gaza, and tell them to launch more, and more rockets with explosive warheads, onto civilian areas in Israel !!

And tell Hamas and ISLAMIC Jihad, to just keep launching more, and more rockets with explosive warheads, onto civilian areas in Israel,
until those accused Israelis beg Hamas and ISLAMIC Jihad to stop !!

.....coz that strategy has really worked well for you so far, hasn't it !!!



And,     ...you should say [very, very sincerely];      
"Thank you Hamas !!!
And thank you ISLAMIC Jihad !!!  ...for all of the blessings you have brought down upon us.
And Allah be praised."



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Psalms 7:14
Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood.
15  He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made.
16  His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate.
17  I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.



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