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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #375 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:29pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:03pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 4:20pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 3:24pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Israel for Israelis, Arabia for Arabs.

(Not a serious reply to #363...)

And Palestine for Palestinians?

Judea and Samaria are parts of Israel not Arabia.

Are you new to ozpolitcs? That's been done to death: Samaria was erased by the Assyrian Empire c 750 BC, and independent (sovereign) Judea by the Babylonian Empire 600 BC.

Hadrian erased Israel from the map in the first century AD, creating 'Syria-Palestina'

(google)

Following the second Jewish revolt against Rome, in 135 C.E., the Jews were driven out of Jerusalem and thereafter lived throughout the Roman Empire and later the emerging medieval states.

So...Palestine for Palestinians - at least as determined by the UN Palestine Partition Plan?

Always was Israeli land, always will be, eh? Some Jews remained and thus they hold unbroken claim to their land and it is now theirs once again.

"Always was Israeli land" - even after the facts have been shown to you?

I think you are confusing the fact that some Jews have always lived in Palestine (ie since the Davidian conquest of Canaanite land c. 1200BC), with the fact Israel hasn't existed since Hadrian's time - until the UN 's bungled Partition Partiton came into being. For the last 2000 years, (before 1947) most Jews lived in the diaspora countries.

That bungled recreation of a long disappeared Israel is the cause of the terrorism the world has been dealing with ever since, because the Islamic world objected to the confiscation of Muslim land by the UN, and the UNSC wasn't equipped to maintain the peace.

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16555 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza Reply #376 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:33pm Jews have lived in a number of countries, but that didn't make those countries Jewish land
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #377 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 4:48pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:29pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:03pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 4:20pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 3:24pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Israel for Israelis, Arabia for Arabs.

(Not a serious reply to #363...)

And Palestine for Palestinians?

Judea and Samaria are parts of Israel not Arabia.

Are you new to ozpolitcs? That's been done to death: Samaria was erased by the Assyrian Empire c 750 BC, and independent (sovereign) Judea by the Babylonian Empire 600 BC.

Hadrian erased Israel from the map in the first century AD, creating 'Syria-Palestina'

(google)

Following the second Jewish revolt against Rome, in 135 C.E., the Jews were driven out of Jerusalem and thereafter lived throughout the Roman Empire and later the emerging medieval states.

So...Palestine for Palestinians - at least as determined by the UN Palestine Partition Plan?

Always was Israeli land, always will be, eh? Some Jews remained and thus they hold unbroken claim to their land and it is now theirs once again.

"Always was Israeli land" - even after the facts have been shown to you?

I think you are confusing the fact that some Jews have always lived in Palestine (ie since the Davidian conquest of Canaanite land c. 1200BC), with the fact Israel hasn't existed since Hadrian's time - until the UN 's bungled Partition Partiton came into being. For the last 2000 years, (before 1947) most Jews lived in the diaspora countries.

That bungled recreation of a long disappeared Israel is the cause of the terrorism the world has been dealing with ever since, because the Islamic world objected to the confiscation of Muslim land by the UN, and the UNSC wasn't equipped to maintain the peace.

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the arse .. you Jew hating prick.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102442 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza Reply #378 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 4:58pm Quote: Israel did not win the war on Gaza I don't know about that but the Palestinians haven't won any prizes - Gaza looks like Hiroshima in 1945.
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #379 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 5:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 4:58pm:

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Israel did not win the war on Gaza

I don't know about that but the Palestinians haven't won any prizes -

Gaza looks like Hiroshima in 1945. Shocked

The Japanese rose from the ashes. The Palestinians will too.

Israeli Jews are frightened of allowing freedom for Palestinians because there are 70+ years of grievances to be avenged if they are free and able to acquire and use weapons to defend themselves.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #380 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 9:09pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 5:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 4:58pm:

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Israel did not win the war on Gaza

I don't know about that but the Palestinians haven't won any prizes -

Gaza looks like Hiroshima in 1945. Shocked

The Japanese rose from the ashes. The Palestinians will too.

Israeli Jews are frightened of allowing freedom for Palestinians because there are 70+ years of grievances to be avenged if they are free and able to acquire and use weapons to defend themselves.

Better to just finish them all off then? That your idea? Go sell it to the UN - they seem happy to genocide Israel these days - allowed too much of the riff raff in and got lost in equity as opposed to equality .... all cultures are equal when they are at gutter level, eh? So they want to bring the West to its knees and get a knee on its throat, and Israel is a first step for the Desert Unwashed.

Would you really want your sister to marry a Gazan? Or similar? Your daughter perhaps? Grin

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #381 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 10:43pm

Jewish Israel is an oxymoron. The history of the Jews publishes that they were chased out of every land they resided in. Therefore, according to Jewish history, Palestine could not have been a Jewish homeland.

The only land they weren't chased out of was New York.

Therefore New York is the real Jewish homeland.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #382 - Sep 1^st, 2024 at 8:13am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 5:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 4:58pm:

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Israel did not win the war on Gaza

I don't know about that but the Palestinians haven't won any prizes -

Gaza looks like Hiroshima in 1945. Shocked

The Japanese rose from the ashes. The Palestinians will too.

Israeli Jews are frightened of allowing freedom for Palestinians because there are 70+ years of grievances to be avenged if they are free and able to acquire and use weapons to defend themselves.

The Japs had some help to get back on their feet after the war -
so did the Germans.
The Gazans are now getting Polio too.
Starvation, disease, destroyed water, sewage & electricity facilities.
Who is gunna fix all that?

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #383 - Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:05am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 8:13am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 5:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 4:58pm:

Quote:

Israel did not win the war on Gaza

I don't know about that but the Palestinians haven't won any prizes -

Gaza looks like Hiroshima in 1945. Shocked

The Japanese rose from the ashes. The Palestinians will too.

Israeli Jews are frightened of allowing freedom for Palestinians because there are 70+ years of grievances to be avenged if they are free and able to acquire and use weapons to defend themselves.

The Japs had some help to get back on their feet after the war -
so did the Germans.
The Gazans are now getting Polio too.
Starvation, disease, destroyed water, sewage & electricity facilities.
Who is gunna fix all that?

The ICJ has ruled that Israel must make reparations.

After warfare will come lawfare. Any entities and countries doing business with Israel will face the risk of having monies and assets seized.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102442 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza Reply #384 - Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:10am Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:05am: The ICJ has ruled that Israel must make reparations. After warfare will come lawfare. Any entities and countries doing business with Israel will face the risk of having monies and assets seized. Israel is broke - they have no shekels left to pay anything.
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #385 - Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:11am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:10am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:05am:

The ICJ has ruled that Israel must make reparations.

After warfare will come lawfare.
Any entities and countries doing business with Israel will face the risk of having monies and assets seized.

Israel is broke - they have no shekels left to pay anything.

Israel is morally bankrupt.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #386 - Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:25am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:11am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:10am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:05am:

The ICJ has ruled that Israel must make reparations.

After warfare will come lawfare.
Any entities and countries doing business with Israel will face the risk of having monies and assets seized.

Israel is broke - they have no shekels left to pay anything.

Israel is morally bankrupt.

Do you really think that Israel is going to build a nice seaside resort for the Palestinians
on the smoking pile of rubble which was once Gaza?

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #387 - Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:50am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:25am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:11am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:10am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:05am:

The ICJ has ruled that Israel must make reparations.

After warfare will come lawfare.
Any entities and countries doing business with Israel will face the risk of having monies and assets seized.

Israel is broke - they have no shekels left to pay anything.

Israel is morally bankrupt.

Do you really think that Israel is going to build a nice seaside resort for the Palestinians
on the smoking pile of rubble which was once Gaza?

The alternative is global sanctions against Israel.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #388 - Sep 2^nd, 2024 at 11:29am

Gnads wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 4:48pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:29pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:03pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 4:20pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 3:24pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Israel for Israelis, Arabia for Arabs.

(Not a serious reply to #363...)

And Palestine for Palestinians?

Judea and Samaria are parts of Israel not Arabia.

Are you new to ozpolitcs? That's been done to death: Samaria was erased by the Assyrian Empire c 750 BC, and independent (sovereign) Judea by the Babylonian Empire 600 BC.

Hadrian erased Israel from the map in the first century AD, creating 'Syria-Palestina'

(google)

Following the second Jewish revolt against Rome, in 135 C.E., the Jews were driven out of Jerusalem and thereafter lived throughout the Roman Empire and later the emerging medieval states.

So...Palestine for Palestinians - at least as determined by the UN Palestine Partition Plan?

Always was Israeli land, always will be, eh? Some Jews remained and thus they hold unbroken claim to their land and it is now theirs once again.

"Always was Israeli land" - even after the facts have been shown to you?

I think you are confusing the fact that some Jews have always lived in Palestine (ie since the Davidian conquest of Canaanite land c. 1200BC), with the fact Israel hasn't existed since Hadrian's time - until the UN 's bungled Partition Partiton came into being. For the last 2000 years, (before 1947) most Jews lived in the diaspora countries.

That bungled recreation of a long disappeared Israel is the cause of the terrorism the world has been dealing with ever since, because the Islamic world objected to the confiscation of Muslim land by the UN, and the UNSC wasn't equipped to maintain the peace.

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the arse .. you Jew hating prick.

Note: graps couldn't refute the facts, so he remained silent.

As for "Jew hating"...the facts speak for themselves: Palestine didn't "belong" to Jews, at the time of the implemetation of the bungled UN Partition Plan.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #389 - Sep 2^nd, 2024 at 12:33pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 5:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 4:58pm:

Quote:

Israel did not win the war on Gaza

I don't know about that but the Palestinians haven't won any prizes -

Gaza looks like Hiroshima in 1945. Shocked

The Japanese rose from the ashes. The Palestinians will too.

Israeli Jews are frightened of allowing freedom for Palestinians because there are 70+ years of grievances to be avenged if they are free and able to acquire and use weapons to defend themselves.

The Japanese & the Germans were assisted from the ashes by the western Allies.

Trust you to want to help terrorists Roll Eyes

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