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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #75 - Jun 5^th, 2021 at 3:48am

Moslems [aka followers of ISLAM] ....
"live quite happily, side-by-side with Gay people"
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- brian

bull poo

brian,

It has been previously published in Australia, that gay persons living in Australia, WHO COME FROM THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY,
have separated themselves from the mainstream moslem community in Australia,
and hide themselves from members of that community !!! ,
because of threats against their lives, in Australia, from moslems [being members of their own families ! ] !!!

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42251	Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor Reply #76 - Jun 5^th, 2021 at 1:59pm Until you provide evidence, Yadda, you're just barking up a dead tree. Tsk, tsk, your Islamophobia rules your mind. Seek help.
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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #77 - Jun 5^th, 2021 at 2:56pm

Here you are Brian, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak...

The Muslim community, by and large, tends to have an allergic reaction to any whiff of a gay-rights agenda. Stories of young gay Muslims being beaten or threatened with murder by family and friends are heartbreaking and are, at the very least, unhelpful for a community struggling to combat its negative stereotype as backward and un-Australian. Yet, homosexuality remains for most Muslims as taboo as other Aussies might view incest, bestiality and paedophilia.

https://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article/australia-s-gay-muslims-face-a-double-bi...

"There have been threats to my life because I am finally speaking out," Imam Nur told ABC News.
Earlier this year, he said, two men (who he knows are from the Muslim community) came to the front door of his house in Melbourne to threaten him after hearing him speak about Marhaba on LGBT radio station Joy FM.
"They wanted me to stop talking about gay Muslims. But luckily the Victorian Police were very helpful and I am OK," he said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/secret-mosques-doors-lgbti-muslims/734114...

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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #78 - Jun 5^th, 2021 at 3:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 1:59pm:

Until you provide evidence, Yadda, you're just barking up a dead tree.

brian claims to be an educated, 'lettered' man.

But even a rudimentary WWW search about VIOLENT intolerance in ISLAM, is too difficult for this person.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 5:41pm:

I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.

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Simple's...

Yadda will shows youse....

WWW search....
gay muslims, in "Australia", death threat

It turns out, that even straight EX-moslems claim they have received death threats from within the moslem community, in Australia......

But we should not worry [according to Brian Ross], because.....

"ISLAM is peace, ....ISLAM is tolerance."

Thankfully, more and more people, are coming to know that that claim is complete Bull tish.

And they are coming to know that all moslems barefacedly lie about ISLAM,
and that all moslems will intentionally misrepresent the nature and character of ISLAM,
to any ill-informed non-moslem who makes an enquiry.

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IMAGE.....

Zara Kay - says, she became an atheist after being disillusioned with ISLAMIC law

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'I was called a sl*t for taking off my hijab':
Student, 26, who renounced Islam reveals she still receives death threats for ditching the religion – and says hundreds more women are living in fear

By Stephen Johnson
14 January 2019

Zara Kay, who moved to Melbourne in 2012 to continue studying information technology and engineering, renounced her Muslim faith after realising the religion she was raised with was, in her opinion, anti-women and anti-gay.

The 26-year-old Tanzanian-raised founder of the Faithless Hijabi support group said there were hundreds of ex-Muslims in Australia, who live in fear of being ostacised, abused or even killed.

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Ms Kay left Islam after non-Muslims pointed out the religion was incompatible with her modern values.

'I rejected a lot of Islamic values such as the punishment of gay people, inequality between genders and forced hijab,' she said.

Fundamentalist Muslims also regard apostasy, or leaving Islam, as a sin deserving of death.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6587935/Former-Muslim-Zara-Kay-speaks-d...

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1616663009/0#0
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ARGUMENTS;
1/ Every person who self-identifies as a moslem, is a follower of ISLAM [...it is the dictionary definition!].

2/ And ISLAM is a philosophy which mandates that its followers must HATE, and **fight and kill people who reject ISLAM, and reject the primacy of ISLAMIC law.

[** or at the very least, must support those directly engaged in that warfare]

ARGUMENT;
If a person did not want to associate himself with what ISLAM is, that person would CHOOSE to [at least within his own heart!] renounce ISLAM, and to denounce what ISLAM is, and leave it.

But instead,

....the vast majority of moslems do not renounce ISLAM, and do not denounce what ISLAM is, nor leave it.

So [logically], every person who self-identifies as a moslem, is thus choosing, to associate himself with what ISLAM is.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

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QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #79 - Jun 5^th, 2021 at 3:09pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Here you are Brian, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak...

The Muslim community, by and large, tends to have an allergic reaction to any whiff of a gay-rights agenda. Stories of young gay Muslims being beaten or threatened with murder by family and friends are heartbreaking and are, at the very least, unhelpful for a community struggling to combat its negative stereotype as backward and un-Australian. Yet, homosexuality remains for most Muslims as taboo as other Aussies might view incest, bestiality and paedophilia.

https://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article/australia-s-gay-muslims-face-a-double-bi...

"There have been threats to my life because I am finally speaking out," Imam Nur told ABC News.
Earlier this year, he said, two men (who he knows are from the Muslim community) came to the front door of his house in Melbourne to threaten him after hearing him speak about Marhaba on LGBT radio station Joy FM.
"They wanted me to stop talking about gay Muslims. But luckily the Victorian Police were very helpful and I am OK," he said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/secret-mosques-doors-lgbti-muslims/734114...

That is better but it still represents a tiny minority of Muslims, Belgarion. In Sydney there is a thriving Gay community, just as there is a thriving Muslim community, living side-by-side and that cannot be ignored. You cannot throw all Muslims into the same boat on this one. Roll Eyes

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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #80 - Jun 5^th, 2021 at 5:42pm

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:44pm:

That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?

It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.

Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?

that's all I've commented on

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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #81 - Jun 5^th, 2021 at 7:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 3:09pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Here you are Brian, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak...

The Muslim community, by and large, tends to have an allergic reaction to any whiff of a gay-rights agenda. Stories of young gay Muslims being beaten or threatened with murder by family and friends are heartbreaking and are, at the very least, unhelpful for a community struggling to combat its negative stereotype as backward and un-Australian. Yet, homosexuality remains for most Muslims as taboo as other Aussies might view incest, bestiality and paedophilia.

https://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article/australia-s-gay-muslims-face-a-double-bi...

"There have been threats to my life because I am finally speaking out," Imam Nur told ABC News.
Earlier this year, he said, two men (who he knows are from the Muslim community) came to the front door of his house in Melbourne to threaten him after hearing him speak about Marhaba on LGBT radio station Joy FM.
"They wanted me to stop talking about gay Muslims. But luckily the Victorian Police were very helpful and I am OK," he said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/secret-mosques-doors-lgbti-muslims/734114...

That is better but it still represents a tiny minority of Muslims, Belgarion. In Sydney there is a thriving Gay community, just as there is a thriving Muslim community, living side-by-side and that cannot be ignored. You cannot throw all Muslims into the same boat on this one. Roll Eyes

The point the people are making in both articles Brian is that persecution is very much the norm in Muslim society. The very fact that there needs to be a special mosque for gay Muslims speaks volumes about the non acceptance of gays in mainstream Muslim society.

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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #82 - Jun 5^th, 2021 at 11:38pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 7:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 3:09pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Here you are Brian, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak...

The Muslim community, by and large, tends to have an allergic reaction to any whiff of a gay-rights agenda. Stories of young gay Muslims being beaten or threatened with murder by family and friends are heartbreaking and are, at the very least, unhelpful for a community struggling to combat its negative stereotype as backward and un-Australian. Yet, homosexuality remains for most Muslims as taboo as other Aussies might view incest, bestiality and paedophilia.

https://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article/australia-s-gay-muslims-face-a-double-bi...

"There have been threats to my life because I am finally speaking out," Imam Nur told ABC News.
Earlier this year, he said, two men (who he knows are from the Muslim community) came to the front door of his house in Melbourne to threaten him after hearing him speak about Marhaba on LGBT radio station Joy FM.
"They wanted me to stop talking about gay Muslims. But luckily the Victorian Police were very helpful and I am OK," he said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/secret-mosques-doors-lgbti-muslims/734114...

That is better but it still represents a tiny minority of Muslims, Belgarion. In Sydney there is a thriving Gay community, just as there is a thriving Muslim community, living side-by-side and that cannot be ignored. You cannot throw all Muslims into the same boat on this one. Roll Eyes

The point the people are making in both articles Brian is that persecution is very much the norm in Muslim society. The very fact that there needs to be a special mosque for gay Muslims speaks volumes about the non acceptance of gays in mainstream Muslim society.

Not so long ago, when I was a young man, I live around the corner from a Gay Christian Church. Christians did and some still do, engage in persecution of Gay people. The Muslims are not unique in that regard, despite what you appear to be claiming, Belgarion. Gays may face non-acceptance in Muslim communities but Muslim communities exist side-by-side with Gay communities. That is a fact that you and others appear unwilling to accept for some strange reason. Roll Eyes

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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #83 - Jun 6^th, 2021 at 7:52am

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:44pm:

That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?

It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.

Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?

that's all I've commented on

Why are you afraid to comment on anything else?

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Reply #84 - Jun 6^th, 2021 at 9:32am

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 7:52am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:44pm:

That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?

It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.

Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?

that's all I've commented on

Why are you afraid to comment on anything else?

probably the same reason you're afraid to use your brain ... it's pointless and in your case no one would even notice.

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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #85 - Jun 6^th, 2021 at 9:55am

John Smith wrote on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 7:52am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:44pm:

That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?

It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.

Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?

that's all I've commented on

Why are you afraid to comment on anything else?

probably the same reason you're afraid to use your brain ... it's pointless and in your case no one would even notice.

No yawn? No tut tut and eyerolling? You'll answer fd's question when he answers yours first??

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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #86 - Jun 6^th, 2021 at 10:00am

Frank wrote on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 9:55am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 7:52am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2021 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:44pm:

That's not an answer John. Are you using your own ignorance of the facts as justification for making up lies?

Do you still think the bouncer was the only witness who came forward to tell of the councillor's antics?

Do you still insist you are not defending her?

It is an answer FD. Why are you so determined to play the idiot all the time? Only ONE person claimed she said 'die faggot die'. ONE. The bouncer. Now stop lying all the time.

Do you think that is all she is accused of doing?

that's all I've commented on

Why are you afraid to comment on anything else?

probably the same reason you're afraid to use your brain ... it's pointless and in your case no one would even notice.

No yawn? No tut tut and eyerolling? You'll answer fd's question when he answers yours first??

I know that's all he deserves, but no.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49347 At my desk.	Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor Reply #87 - Jun 6^th, 2021 at 10:06am Would you like to offer us your opinion on the councillor John?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74981 Gender:	Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor Reply #88 - Jun 6^th, 2021 at 10:24am freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 10:06am: Would you like to offer us your opinion on the councillor John? no
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Re: Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor
Reply #89 - Jun 6^th, 2021 at 10:32am

John Smith wrote on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 10:24am:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 10:06am:

Would you like to offer us your opinion on the councillor John?

no

Care to comment on this?

Gordon wrote on Jun 4^th, 2021 at 6:53pm:

Several sworn statements provided by witnesses to police investigators accuse Cr Mohamud of instigating the altercation with another woman, before allegedly exclaiming “Allahu Akbar” and vowing to “make sure all these faggots die”

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/greens-councillor-bashed-near-gay-cl...

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