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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #855 - May 1^st, 2022 at 4:13pm

Frank wrote on May 1^st, 2022 at 1:06pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 10:15pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 12:46pm:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FROiaShXIAANc3w.jpg

I don't think I see your point ?

Assuming you have one ? Its ok if you don't.

Those who control much of the public square and debate - big tech, big media - are HEAVILY biased towards the left. The same with teachers and academics, the brain washers of the next generations.

That this has to be spelled out to you even after you looked at the graph is sad but not surprising at all. That tou are so thick yet attempt condescension is mildly comical in its absurdity.

Nonsense. They're biased towards the centre. Just because you're led by a lunar-right claque of chimpanzees does not mean professionals should do the same. The fact that you can't even stomach the policies of the British Tories and Australian Libs says something, old boy. Even conservative governments have to listen to the centre to get elected.

The only way far-right politicians like Putin, Orban and Erdogan can stay in is by controlling the elections and the media. You know as well as I that you'd support a nutcase like Trump overturning a popular election to grab power.

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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #856 - May 1^st, 2022 at 7:30pm

Frank wrote on May 1^st, 2022 at 1:06pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 10:15pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 12:46pm:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FROiaShXIAANc3w.jpg

I don't think I see your point ?

Assuming you have one ? Its ok if you don't.

Those who control much of the public square and debate - big tech, big media - are HEAVILY biased towards the left. The same with teachers and academics, the brain washers of the next generations.

That this has to be spelled out to you even after you looked at the graph is sad but not surprising at all. That tou are so thick yet attempt condescension is mildly comical in its absurdity.

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big tech, big media - are HEAVILY biased towards the left.

No not true. Pretty much the opposite.

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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #857 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 10:10am

Dnarever wrote on May 1^st, 2022 at 7:30pm:

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big tech, big media - are HEAVILY biased towards the left.

No not true. Pretty much the opposite.

Don't be ridiculous.

Twatter, FB, Amazon, CNN, Google, every public radio and TV network - ABC, CBC, NPR, PBS - the Granuiad, The Atlantic, NYT, WaPo, SMH, The Age, AFR, etc, etc, etc - all progressive, openly biased and Democrat supporting. Universities, schools, public services ditto, overwhelmingly.

Not being frothingly, dementedly anti-Trump in every waking moment is NOT right-wing bias, duckwit. It's being sane, not deranged.

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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #858 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 10:22am

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 10:10am:

Dnarever wrote on May 1^st, 2022 at 7:30pm:

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big tech, big media - are HEAVILY biased towards the left.

No not true. Pretty much the opposite.

Don't be ridiculous.

Twatter, FB, Amazon, CNN, Google, every public radio and TV network - ABC, CBC, NPR, PBS - the Granuiad, The Atlantic, NYT, WaPo, SMH, The Age, AFR, etc, etc, etc - all progressive, openly biased and Democrat supporting. Universities, schools, public services ditto, overwhelmingly.

Not being frothingly, dementedly anti-Trump in every waking moment is NOT right-wing bias, duckwit. It's being sane, not deranged.

Why would anyone be anti-stealing from kids' charities?

“Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain. Charities are not a means to an end, which is why these damages speak to the president’s abuse of power and represent a victory for not-for-profits that follow the law. Funds have finally gone where they deserve — to eight credible charities. My office will continue to fight for accountability because no one is above the law — not a businessman, not a candidate for office, and not even the president of the United States.”

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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #859 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 12:40pm

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 10:10am:

Dnarever wrote on May 1^st, 2022 at 7:30pm:

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big tech, big media - are HEAVILY biased towards the left.

No not true. Pretty much the opposite.

Don't be ridiculous.

Twatter, FB, Amazon, CNN, Google, every public radio and TV network - ABC, CBC, NPR, PBS - the Granuiad, The Atlantic, NYT, WaPo, SMH, The Age, AFR, etc, etc, etc - all progressive, openly biased and Democrat supporting. Universities, schools, public services ditto, overwhelmingly.

Not being frothingly, dementedly anti-Trump in every waking moment is NOT right-wing bias, duckwit. It's being sane, not deranged.

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all progressive

Not one on that list is not dramatically opposed to progressive policy. I assume from this that you have no idea what progressive policy is ?

They are most if not all politically right leaning, yes even the more Anti Trump group. Anti Trump is not synonymic for supporting the left being democrat or even not being a republican. The media as a whole are part of the corporate landscape.

The Corporate landscape requires support for right policy implementation and support. This clearly includes the organisations listed that you claim to be politically to the left - Yes CNN CBC etc are profit driven corporations.

They are profit driven companies that pay their top hosts millions. None of them report or support any progressive issues. You will not see reporting about how popular progressive issues are. They do not make a noise about the $15 minimum wage, they do not support or report on the Green new deal, They have little to say about political corruption in donations (they donate) nor Healthcare reform and Pharmaceutical cost control.

You confuse republican right wing corrupt politicians that take $ Millions in donations from the corporate world in exchange for doing their bidding with right wing Democrat politicians who take $ Millions of the same corporate donations in exchange for doing their bidding.

Yes people like Biden making substantial change for the benefit of the American people is not on the table.

Biden even committed to Wall street (in a speech) that there would be no substantial structural change under his government. This was prior to the election as he was taking their donations. Economically any difference between the Republicans and Democrats is at the margin and there is nothing progressive at all coming out of main stream US politics its simply not possible for main stream politicians in the USA to make policy that supports their people in preference to promoting corporate profit even if it is only perceived.

You list Face Book in your list but ignore the fact that Mark Zuckerberg socialises with republican politicians by preference. Somehow FB are crazy left wing when the owner is a mad righty. You list Google but it is known that the search engine algorithm favours right topics and opinion.

The problem with the right is that you don't like the truth so you all make it different. You all need something to cry about and easily find it everywhere.

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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #863 - May 9^th, 2022 at 5:04pm

Dnarever wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 4:42pm:

Frank wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

2000 mules

Please tell me that you are not this dumb you posted this for a joke right?

Fwank is a dickhead!!!

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The faulty premise of the ‘2,000 mules’ trailer about voting by mail in the 2020 election

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/may/04/faulty-premise-2000-mules-trailer...

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-2000-mules-film-election-fraud-dsouza-ritt...

https://worldnationnews.com/fact-check-holes-in-the-election-fraud-claims-of-200...

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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #864 - May 10^th, 2022 at 2:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 10:22am:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 10:10am:

Dnarever wrote on May 1^st, 2022 at 7:30pm:

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big tech, big media - are HEAVILY biased towards the left.

No not true. Pretty much the opposite.

Don't be ridiculous.

Twatter, FB, Amazon, CNN, Google, every public radio and TV network - ABC, CBC, NPR, PBS - the Granuiad, The Atlantic, NYT, WaPo, SMH, The Age, AFR, etc, etc, etc - all progressive, openly biased and Democrat supporting. Universities, schools, public services ditto, overwhelmingly.

Not being frothingly, dementedly anti-Trump in every waking moment is NOT right-wing bias, duckwit. It's being sane, not deranged.

Why would anyone be anti-stealing from kids' charities?

“Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain. Charities are not a means to an end, which is why these damages speak to the president’s abuse of power and represent a victory for not-for-profits that follow the law. Funds have finally gone where they deserve — to eight credible charities. My office will continue to fight for accountability because no one is above the law — not a businessman, not a candidate for office, and not even the president of the United States.”

Good heavens, Greggery, are you saying the old boy supports this behaviour? Stealing from a children's charity?

Are there no depths to which he won't descend?

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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #865 - May 10^th, 2022 at 2:57pm

Dnarever wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 4:42pm:

Frank wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

2000 mules

Please tell me that you are not this dumb you posted this for a joke right?

Definitely. The old boy's just having a laugh. He's having a bit of fun with us - you know, like when Mr Trump said they should try injections of bleach to do a number on the lungs. He's just testing the fake news.

The old boy knows. Everybody knows. This one's probably the easiest claim to debunk of the lot.

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CLAIM: At least 2,000 “mules” were paid to illegally collect ballots and deliver them to drop boxes in key swing states ahead of the 2020 presidential election.

THE FACTS: True the Vote didn’t prove this. The finding is based on false assumptions about the precision of cellphone tracking data and the reasons that someone might drop off multiple ballots, according to experts.

CLAIM: In Philadelphia alone, True the Vote identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.

THE FACTS: No, it didn’t. The group hasn’t offered any evidence of any sort of paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia. And True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia, so the group based this claim solely on cellphone location data, its researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in testimony to Pennsylvania state senators.

CLAIM: Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, showing they were violent far left actors.

THE FACTS: Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.

CLAIM: Alleged ballot harvesters were captured on surveillance video wearing gloves because they didn’t want to leave their fingerprints on the ballots.

THE FACTS: This is pure speculation. It ignores far more likely reasons for glove-wearing in the fall and winter of 2020 — cold weather or COVID-19.

CLAIM: If it weren’t for this ballot collection scheme, former President Donald Trump would have had enough votes to win the 2020 election.

THE FACTS: This alleged scheme has not been proven, nor do these researchers have any way of knowing whether any ballots that were collected contained votes for Trump or for Biden.

There’s no evidence a massive ballot harvesting scheme dumped a large amount of votes for one candidate into drop boxes, and if there were, it would likely be caught quickly, according to Derek Muller, a law professor at the University of Iowa.

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/05/08/2000-mules-fact-check/

Sorry to spoil your fun, old boy, but Dnarever was already onto it.

Carry on.

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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #866 - May 10^th, 2022 at 3:09pm

philperth2010 wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 5:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 4:42pm:

Frank wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

2000 mules

Please tell me that you are not this dumb you posted this for a joke right?

Fwank is a dickhead!!!

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The faulty premise of the ‘2,000 mules’ trailer about voting by mail in the 2020 election

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/may/04/faulty-premise-2000-mules-trailer...

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-2000-mules-film-election-fraud-dsouza-ritt...

https://worldnationnews.com/fact-check-holes-in-the-election-fraud-claims-of-200...

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Now now, Phil, Fwank's just having some fun. They do say laughter is the best medicine, no?

You watch, Fwank's next gag will be all those fact-checkers are naughty old leftards, followed by a string of expletives, racial insinuations and claims of white superiority.

Sorry to prelude the script, old boy, but it will help those readers who struggle to keep up.

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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #867 - May 10^th, 2022 at 3:19pm

Dnarever wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 4:42pm:

Frank wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

2000 mules

Please tell me that you are not this dumb you posted this for a joke right?

From the video:

"What are the orange dots?"

"They're the drop boxes."

"And what are the blue... tracks?"

"That is a smoothed-out pattern of life, so that we could take the - sort of the movement of the individual cell phone signals - marry them together into something that's visual..."

...

You've got to give it to him, Dnarever. If the old boy's able to dismiss all the fact-checks and go with an explanation like that, anything is possible.

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Re: Here's how you know the election was stolen
Reply #869 - May 10^th, 2022 at 5:06pm

Bias_2012 wrote on May 10^th, 2022 at 4:46pm:

From an email I received this morning

Finally, after all the cheating was eliminated, this is the result ...

Final Electoral Vote Count Trump - 279 Biden - 259

Did you tell the person who sent you the email that they're a dickhead?

Because, well ... they're a dickhead if they believe that.

Did they send you any proof, by the way?

Just curious.

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