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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Deaths after vaccine in Australia Reply #15 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 9:37am BaronVonRort is evidently reporting this issue from the aspect of a victim. The demented old codger BaronVonRort is brain dead and is so stubborn he refuses to fall over. Next BaronVonRort will be demanding the government spend more money to prevent geriatrics from dying of old age.
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Reply #16 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:25am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 9:34am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 9:30am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 9:25am:

210 reports of deaths following immunisation

You realise that all this means is that people died shortly after getting the vaccination. It doesn't mean they died due to the vaccination.

Excuse me but that is no different to the argument
That many elderly people died with covif not from covid.

You seem to want to have your cake and eat it too

But it is different, if you die with covid, copvid is a contributing factor to your death. Here the vaccine had no causal relationship to the death. E.g did the vaccine cause a myocardial infarction?

But forgive me if I just make it easy for myself and just instantly dismiss everything you say as the ravings of a deranged halfwit.

Incorrect

If an 80-year-old has the vaccine and has a heart attack 2 weeks later and parishes
You are claiming the two are not related
If an 80-year-old has a covert test which is positive and has a heart attack two weeks later
You are claiming the two are related

Excuse me for pointing out the ravings of a deranged half whit Grin

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Reply #17 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:27am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:25am:

But forgive me if I just make it easy for myself and just instantly dismiss everything you say as the ravings of a deranged halfwit.

Incorrect

If an 80-year-old has the vaccine and has a heart attack 2 weeks later and parishes
You are claiming the two are not related
If an 80-year-old has a covert test which is positive and has a heart attack two weeks later
You are claiming the two are related

Excuse me for pointing out the ravings of a deranged half whit Grin

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Covert? Half whit?

And who's been saying positive covid tests but if you get a patient in with a positive COVID test with clear respiratory difficulty, then they die of a heart attack then obviously the two are related. Since the pathophysiology of myocardial infarction is related to the drop in oxygenation of the blood.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Deaths after vaccine in Australia Reply #18 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:31am Its about the linkage through pathophysiology. E.g. its easy to link having COVID with respiratory difficulties to myocardial infarct, organ failure etc But how do you link the vaccine to MI? Wow me with your intellect.
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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9662 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Deaths after vaccine in Australia Reply #19 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:45am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 9:26am: aquascoot wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 7:15am: Captain Interesting that you are called Captain that's what my partner calls me g Is there anyone in your family who isn't a complete weirdo. (Not sure which of the 3 males is him though?)
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Reply #20 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 11:40am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:31am:

Its about the linkage through pathophysiology.

E.g. its easy to link having COVID with respiratory difficulties to myocardial infarct, organ failure etc

But how do you link the vaccine to MI? Wow me with your intellect.

intellect is over rated.

better to wow you with my success.

when i get to rive past you and your fat wife in your camry with me and my hot filly in my mustang Cheesy

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Reply #21 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 11:41am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 11:40am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:31am:

Its about the linkage through pathophysiology.

E.g. its easy to link having COVID with respiratory difficulties to myocardial infarct, organ failure etc

But how do you link the vaccine to MI? Wow me with your intellect.

intellect is over rated.

better to wow you with my success.

when i get to rive past you and your fat wife in your camry with me and my hot filly in my mustang Cheesy

You're wowing me with your lies. Just answer the question?

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Deaths after vaccine in Australia Reply #22 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 11:41am Or is that you genuinely don't know and like kibbitzing like you do know.
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14214 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Deaths after vaccine in Australia Reply #23 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 1:43pm Swimmer dies after being bitten by 4.5m great yabby in Melbourne's Albert Park Lake Police say the man the his 50s had been given an AstraZeneca vaccination just one week ago SkyNews.com/dictator_dan
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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6211 Gender:	Re: Deaths after vaccine in Australia Reply #24 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:31am: Wow me with your intellect. The same way fauci did? You retard.... You've been pedalling this bullshyte since the start. You and your "intellectual" retard mates need to stand down now. You're lying maggots who prey on fear. Farqoff.
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Reply #25 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 7:40pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:31am:

Wow me with your intellect.

The same way fauci did? Grin

You retard.... You've been pedalling this bullshyte since the start.
You and your "intellectual" retard mates need to stand down now. You're lying maggots who prey on fear. Farqoff.

Quite what we really need to do is allow you basement dwellers to consult your mums and make the decisions.

Or better yet let bogans do the lot.

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #26 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 8:23pm

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/one-person-in-intensive-care-as-...

One person in intensive care

as eight new blood clot cases linked
to AstraZeneca vaccine

Thursday, 3 June 2021 7:19 pm AEST

Eight additional cases of blood clots have been “likely” linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine in Australia.

One of the newly confirmed cases is “critically unwell” and is in intensive care.

The additional figures bring the number of confirmed and probable cases of blood clots with low blood platelets in the nation to 41.

The Therapeutic Goods Administration released a statement with the new figures on Thursday.

It said the cases had been assessed as “thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) likely to be linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine”.

“When assessed using the United Kingdom (UK) case definition, four cases are confirmed and four are deemed probable TTS,” the TGA said in a statement.

“This brings the total number of confirmed and probable TTS cases in Australia to 41.”
Lucy Quaggin
7NEWS
Published: 03/06/2021

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59402 Here Gender:	Re: Deaths after vaccine in Australia Reply #27 - Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:59pm Quote: To date, the observed number of deaths reported after vaccination is actually less than the expected number of deaths. This bit was left out of the story ? More people lived than was expected after the injections ? i.e without the injections more people were expected to die from the old age group.
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Reply #28 - Jun 4^th, 2021 at 7:05am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 7:40pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2021 at 10:31am:

Wow me with your intellect.

The same way fauci did? Grin

You retard.... You've been pedalling this bullshyte since the start.
You and your "intellectual" retard mates need to stand down now. You're lying maggots who prey on fear. Farqoff.

Quite what we really need to do is allow you basement dwellers to consult your mums and make the decisions.

Or better yet let bogans do the lot.

It would be better than having you retards at the helm. Wink

Funny how you're the first to scream "conspiracy theory" because you take the word of a lying scumbag and his media allies, no questions asked.
Then you go to extreme lengths to back up their lies....
You are a grub. Plain and simple. Own it loser. Wink

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Reply #29 - Jun 4^th, 2021 at 8:24am

Canyons is certainly ideologically possessed

He is adamant that the virus came from a wet market and will not entertain the thought that it came from a laboratory

This is a political posturing not a scientific posturing and is based on the fact that many of the left could not possibly entertain the thought that Trump was right when he first suggested it

Now I note that The Darling of the ABC Dr Norman Swan
A pronounced lefty
It's saying that this is an entirely possible hypothesis

And knock me down with a feather
CNN a pronounced lefty media outlet
Are also calling for a enquiry into the lab leak hypothesis

These people and people like canyons have zero credibility
They proclaim to the world there scientific integrity
And then cherry-pick science based on politics

So come clean now canyons and admit that Gordon and I have been right right from the start
And that is entirely likely this came from a laboratory

Or are you going to remain out of step with Dr Norman Swan president Joe Biden and the lefty media

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