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The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxon elite to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.
A huge difference should be noticed between the British and Irish colonists who were forcibly brought to the largest British Gulag in the history of the world called Australia.
The British were detained as convicted criminals, while the Irish were prisoners of war or dissidents fighting to liberate their country from British occupation (Robert Hughes "The fatal Shore" https://www.amazon.com.au/Fatal-Shore-Robert-Hughes/dp/0394506685)
From this perspective, the term Australian "Anglo-Celtic population" is morally unacceptable.
There is evidence of a large number of crimes and retaliation against the Irish by the Anglo-Saxon invaders and in Australia where the Irish have long been considered second-class citizens.
The British did not use Africans only as slaves.
The first British slaves in America were actually Irish.


„27. In August 2019, Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris marked the 400th anniversary of the first recorded import of enslaved Africans to Virginia by calling for a showdown with the "history of slavery and institutional racism" in her country.

Two days later, frequent Fox News contributor and right-wing author Janie Johnson (who has about 210,000 followers on Twitter) tweeted a rhetorical response to Harris, saying "What about the Irish as America's FIRST slaves?" He suggests that the Irish were slaves. in British colonial America before the African people "

When we think of slavery in America, we think of black slaves brought over from Africa. They were not alone. For a time the Irish were also enslaved. Some historian try to sugar-coat the practice by referring to them as “indentured servants,” but this is a distortion of reality. These people were slaves in every sense of the word.

The Irish slaves were sent to America on English ships. They included men, women and very young children. Like black slaves they were harshly treated, especially when they disobeyed. They were commonly suspended by their hands by their owners who then set their hands and feet on fire. Some were burned to death, decapitated and had their heads set on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to others.

The practice began long before America gained its independence from England. It started during the reigns James II and Charles II and was encouraged by Oliver Cromwell. The first shipment of slaves, which  arrived in the Americas in 1619, was composed of 100 white children. James II sold some 30,000 Irish prisoners to be used as slaves in the New World. In 1625 he issued a proclamation which required that Irish political prisoners be sent to the West Indies. By the middle of the 17th century Irish slaves were being sold to Antigua and Montserrat. So many Irish slaves were sent to Montserrat that they made up 70% of the population.

Between 1641 and 1652 more than 500,000 Irish were killed outright by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Because of the slave trade the population of Ireland dropped from 1,500,000 to 600,000 in that one decade. Men were not allowed to take their wives and children with them resulting in a massive number of homeless women and children. England “solved” the problem by selling them off as well. In the 1650s more than 100,000 children between the ages of 10 and 14 were sold to slaveholders in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. Some 30,000 men and women were also sold. In 1656 Cromwell ordered that 2,000 children be sent to Jamaica as slaves for the English settlers.

After the Irish Rebellion of 1798, thousands of Irish were sold to America and Australia. Abuses were rampant. One British ship dumped 1,302 slaves into the ocean so that the crew would have more food to eat.

During this time slaves from Africa were just starting to be brought to the New World. As badly as they were treated, the Irish were actually treated worse. This was in part due to British anti-Catholicism but also because the black slaves cost more by a factor of ten. (Blacks were sold for 50 sterling while the Irish seldom went for more than 5 sterling. Mistreatment of the slaves, even if it resulted in death, was not considered criminal.

The practice continued until the British decided to put an end to it in 1839 but that did not put an end to the mistreatment of Irish children.

Many Irish orphans were rounded up and sent by train to agricultural areas to live with farmers. Few records were kept regarding the trains, but estimate run between 400,000 and 600,000 were relocated between 1854 and 1929.

Young girls were often forced into prostitution which, although illegal, was usually ignored. In some cities it is estimated that as many as 75% of the men suffered from some form of sexually transmitted disease. In 1832, a group of women formed the American Female Guardian Society to take care of the girl prostitutes. The group soon started taking in both boys and girls and later established 12 industrial schools where children were taught a trade and skills to support themselves.

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Reply #1 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:43pm
 
Not only but also....



The Barbary slave trade refers to slave markets on the Barbary Coast of North Africa, which included the Ottoman provinces of Algeria, Tunisia and Tripolitania and the independent sultanate of Morocco, between the 16th and middle of the 18th century. The Ottoman provinces in North Africa were nominally under Ottoman suzerainty, but in reality they were mostly autonomous.

European slaves were acquired by Barbary pirates in slave raids on ships and by raids on coastal towns from Italy to the Netherlands, Ireland and the southwest of Britain, as far north as Iceland and into the eastern Mediterranean.

The Ottoman eastern Mediterranean was the scene of intense piracy.[1] As late as the 18th century, piracy continued to be a "consistent threat to maritime traffic in the Aegean".[2]








And the Muslims and Africans ad Asias are STILL trading slaves.  Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #2 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm
 
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?
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Reply #3 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


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Reply #4 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm
 
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


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So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


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Reply #5 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:59pm
 
Celts are not just the Irish, Fu Manchu.  Asterix and Obelisk were also celts (gauls were a branch of the celts)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts#/media/File:Celtic_expansion_in_Europe.png

And the Anglo Saxons were from Denmark, pushed out by the Vikings who eventually followed them to Britain a few hundred years later and established Danelaw across Eastern England.  Another few hundred years later came the Normans who were also Danes who had conquered Normandy,  similarly to Danelaw in England.
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Reply #6 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:07pm
 
The Celts were a central European ethnic group...

DNA technology reveals that genetically many central Europeans, being: the Swiss, Austrians, Northern Italians (Tiroleans) are to this day of Celtic descent.

And then there's the Bretons of Brittany, France...

Celtic DNA is significantly detectable throughout France, Spain, Britain and Ireland.
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Reply #7 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:14pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:07pm:
The Celts were a central European ethnic group...

DNA technology reveals that genetically many central Europeans, being: the Swiss, Austrians, Northern Italians (Tiroleans) are to this day of Celtic descent.

And then there's the Bretons of Brittany, France...

Celtic DNA is significantly detectable throughout France, Spain, Britain and Ireland.


And the USA and Australia and New Zealand and South Africa...
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Reply #8 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:14pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:07pm:
The Celts were a central European ethnic group...

DNA technology reveals that genetically many central Europeans, being: the Swiss, Austrians, Northern Italians (Tiroleans) are to this day of Celtic descent.

And then there's the Bretons of Brittany, France...

Celtic DNA is significantly detectable throughout France, Spain, Britain and Ireland.


And the USA and Australia and New Zealand and South Africa...

Yes...

It was the Romans that forced their westward movement away from its empire, ultimately to become identified as peoples of the British Isles.

The genetic 'homeland' of all Celts, however, is central Europe.
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Reply #9 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


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So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocides on Irish people and around the world.
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Reply #10 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:22pm
 
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


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So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocide on Irish people and around the world.
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Well... You bring them up all the time (or try to resurrect them from their ancient graves)... You're not that well informed on Europeans.

Tiananmen Square massacre - Your commemoration today was?
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Reply #11 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:30pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:22pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
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So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocide on Irish people and around the world.
Smiley


Well... You bring them up all the time (or try to resurrect them from their ancient graves)... You're not that well informed on Europeans.

Tiananmen Square massacre - Your commemoration today was?

Again this time IQ<7
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Reply #12 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:33pm
 
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:30pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:22pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
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So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocide on Irish people and around the world.
Smiley


Well... You bring them up all the time (or try to resurrect them from their ancient graves)... You're not that well informed on Europeans.

Tiananmen Square massacre - Your commemoration today was?

Again this time IQ<7
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Yes, I know you can't mention the Tiananmen Square massacre... You'd have a broken bottle smashed into your face if you did.
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Re: First British slaves were Irish
Reply #13 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:37pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:33pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:30pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:22pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 5:20pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:54pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:53pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
The newly created Australian term Anglo-Celtic is a very cunning attempt by the genocidal Anglo-Saxons to shift the blame for their crimes on others, even on their Irish victims.

What about them Anglo-Normans? Or them Anglo-Celts? Or them Britons?

You think there aren't Anglo-Celts?


IQ<10
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So who were the 'Anglo-Saxons'?


Irrelevant Question for this topic and don't pretend you don't know who did genocide on Irish people and around the world.
Smiley


Well... You bring them up all the time (or try to resurrect them from their ancient graves)... You're not that well informed on Europeans.

Tiananmen Square massacre - Your commemoration today was?

Again this time IQ<7
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Yes, I know you can't mention the Tiananmen Square massacre... You'd have a broken bottle smashed into your face if you did.

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Reply #14 - Jun 12th, 2021 at 12:14pm
 
The first British were Britons, descended from blacks.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/cheddar-man-s-dna-shows-the-first-britons-were-black-20180207-p4yzm8.html

When de whitey come by boats, dey is slaves to ole' man sure 'nough.
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