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Reply #45 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 2:08pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 10^th, 2021 at 11:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2021 at 11:23pm:

Not according to the Immigration Act. We are also signatories of the UN Convention on Refugees. We legally not allowed to close our borders to those seeking asylum

You better read the Immigration Act again, you're not reading it right

Sure of that? I suggest you read section 39...

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The UN Convention on Refugees is not binding

Sure of that? Why did we bother signing it?

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They weren't/are not asylum seekers, they are unlawful intruders

They are Asylum Seekers. Something even the Department of Immigration has agreed on. Roll Eyes

The key word there is "SEEKERS".

And their claim for asylum has been rejected twice.

You do not return to a place from which you supposedly fled in fear of your life .... which they have done at least twice.

They have used their children as pawns to assist their case.

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Reply #46 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:21pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 2:14pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 2:07pm:

I know that you cannot just cross a border and claim asylum Pasta........unless of course you're South American and border is Texas and your leader is Joe Fkken Biden.....

Don't be an idiot all your life Pasta.....you'll just confirm what most on this forum think of you.......you're a smug twat! Roll Eyes

Actually you can just cross a border and claim asylum, its then up to the country in which you seek asylum to determine whether you met the correct criteria

Yes & their claim has been rejected twice.

So nothings changed ... they've been deemed "illegal economic migrants"

& as old mate said ... you're still a smug twat. Wink

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Reply #47 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

The point is, these people have been found not to be refugees and therefore are not entitled to be given asylum. The only reason they have been in detention for so long is because of the interminable appeals and protests being made by the illegal immigrant industry. If not for this they would have been repatriated long ago.

So, you'd prefer to send them back to Sri Lanka for torture, would you, Belgarion? Roll Eyes

Why do you think they would get tortured Brian? Thats a strange claim.

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Reply #48 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:28pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

The point is, these people have been found not to be refugees and therefore are not entitled to be given asylum. The only reason they have been in detention for so long is because of the interminable appeals and protests being made by the illegal immigrant industry. If not for this they would have been repatriated long ago.

So, you'd prefer to send them back to Sri Lanka for torture, would you, Belgarion? Roll Eyes

What bullshyte .... didn't happen the 2 times they returned there ....

so stop lying.

Their asylum seeker claims have been determined twice to be non genuine.

They need to be returned to Sri Lanka.

BTW dipstick what are you doing to help all the other Tamils in Sri Lanka who are apparently being tortured? Roll Eyes

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Reply #49 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 7:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

The point is, these people have been found not to be refugees and therefore are not entitled to be given asylum. The only reason they have been in detention for so long is because of the interminable appeals and protests being made by the illegal immigrant industry. If not for this they would have been repatriated long ago.

So, you'd prefer to send them back to Sri Lanka for torture, would you, Belgarion? Roll Eyes

As others have pointed out, the fact that they have returned to Sri Lanka twice since attempting to claim asylum seems to indicate that they are in no danger there. Roll Eyes

Even if there was some substance to their claim, they only had to cross the 50 miles or so of the Palk Strait to be in the Tamil homeland in southern India where they would be among their own people. No need to travel all the way to Australia for refuge... Roll Eyes

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Reply #50 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 8:20pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

The point is, these people have been found not to be refugees and therefore are not entitled to be given asylum. The only reason they have been in detention for so long is because of the interminable appeals and protests being made by the illegal immigrant industry. If not for this they would have been repatriated long ago.

So, you'd prefer to send them back to Sri Lanka for torture, would you, Belgarion? Roll Eyes

As others have pointed out, the fact that they have returned to Sri Lanka twice since attempting to claim asylum seems to indicate that they are in no danger there. Roll Eyes

Even if there was some substance to their claim, they only had to cross the 50 miles or so of the Palk Strait to be in the Tamil homeland in southern India where they would be among their own people. No need to travel all the way to Australia for refuge... Roll Eyes

So....why is Australia holding these people at Christmas Island? Send them back to Sri Lanka or bring them back here. Why the fuqqing around, costing us $M6?

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Reply #51 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 8:57pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 8:20pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

The point is, these people have been found not to be refugees and therefore are not entitled to be given asylum. The only reason they have been in detention for so long is because of the interminable appeals and protests being made by the illegal immigrant industry. If not for this they would have been repatriated long ago.

So, you'd prefer to send them back to Sri Lanka for torture, would you, Belgarion? Roll Eyes

As others have pointed out, the fact that they have returned to Sri Lanka twice since attempting to claim asylum seems to indicate that they are in no danger there. Roll Eyes

Even if there was some substance to their claim, they only had to cross the 50 miles or so of the Palk Strait to be in the Tamil homeland in southern India where they would be among their own people. No need to travel all the way to Australia for refuge... Roll Eyes

So....why is Australia holding these people at Christmas Island? Send them back to Sri Lanka or bring them back here. Why the fuqqing around, costing us $M6?

Because of scumbag lawyers with their heads in the asylum seeker trough.

The family has been engaged in legal appeals since 2012.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/child-evacuated-detention-could-biloela-t...

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Reply #53 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 9:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

The point is, these people have been found not to be refugees and therefore are not entitled to be given asylum. The only reason they have been in detention for so long is because of the interminable appeals and protests being made by the illegal immigrant industry. If not for this they would have been repatriated long ago.

So, you'd prefer to send them back to Sri Lanka for torture, would you, Belgarion? Roll Eyes

Court documents show the Tamil father travelled in-and-out of Sri Lanka during the civil war which ended in 2009.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-02/biloela-tamil-family-melbourne-federal-ci...

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20483 Gordon Gender:	Re: Biloela family go home Reply #54 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 9:19pm Send them back the family have not been truthful in visa applications and said evidence suggested they came to Australia in 2012 and 2013 by boat as economic refugees.
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Reply #55 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 9:34pm

rhino wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

The point is, these people have been found not to be refugees and therefore are not entitled to be given asylum. The only reason they have been in detention for so long is because of the interminable appeals and protests being made by the illegal immigrant industry. If not for this they would have been repatriated long ago.

So, you'd prefer to send them back to Sri Lanka for torture, would you, Belgarion? Roll Eyes

Why do you think they would get tortured Brian? Thats a strange claim.

They are Tamils. They fled Sri Lanka for a reason. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #56 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 9:36pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

The point is, these people have been found not to be refugees and therefore are not entitled to be given asylum. The only reason they have been in detention for so long is because of the interminable appeals and protests being made by the illegal immigrant industry. If not for this they would have been repatriated long ago.

So, you'd prefer to send them back to Sri Lanka for torture, would you, Belgarion? Roll Eyes

As others have pointed out, the fact that they have returned to Sri Lanka twice since attempting to claim asylum seems to indicate that they are in no danger there. Roll Eyes

Even if there was some substance to their claim, they only had to cross the 50 miles or so of the Palk Strait to be in the Tamil homeland in southern India where they would be among their own people. No need to travel all the way to Australia for refuge... Roll Eyes

India is not their homeland. Sri Lanka was. Australia is where they seek it to be. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #57 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 9:39pm

Brians tard wants liars to be rewarded.

However, he frequently travelled between Sri Lanka, Kuwait and Qatar between 2004 and 2010 for work, during the civil war that ended in 2009.

As a result, the Immigration Assessment Authority (IAA) did not accept he had links to the LTTE and would not be "of concern to the Sri Lankan authorities."

"Anyone who was associated with the LTTE or was suspected of being with the LTTE, would not have been coming and going into Sri Lanka," Mr Jeans said.

"They would have been picked up by security forces."

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Reply #58 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 9:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 9:34pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 11^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

The point is, these people have been found not to be refugees and therefore are not entitled to be given asylum. The only reason they have been in detention for so long is because of the interminable appeals and protests being made by the illegal immigrant industry. If not for this they would have been repatriated long ago.

So, you'd prefer to send them back to Sri Lanka for torture, would you, Belgarion? Roll Eyes

Why do you think they would get tortured Brian? Thats a strange claim.

They are Tamils. They fled Sri Lanka for a reason. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

So every Tamil must be settled in Australia....

And Nigerian, Vietnamese, Chinese, Iranian, Lebanese, lao, Pakistani, Burmese, Bangladeshi, Venezuelan, Nicaraguan, Lybian, Syrian, Albanian, Afghan, Lebanese, Ethiopian, [your fcced up national here] .

Who SHOULD be kept out if Australia???

I know - white Europeans with a compatible culture.

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Reply #59 - Jun 11^th, 2021 at 11:39pm

What one discovers if you read the report that Gordon quotes from the ABC:

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"The environment is changing and it's never been particularly favourable to Tamils but it looks like it's changing back to a more draconian environment," Professor Kingsbury said.

He said because the family left the country by boat, they will be taken into custody when they land in Sri Lanka.

"[Nades has] automatically committed an offence in the eyes of the Sri Lankan government," he said.

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Seems the Australian Government is a vengeful Government as well:

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Despite the distressing nature of the images, Mr Jeans said excessive media coverage and activism was harming the family's case by forcing the Immigration Minister, David Coleman, into a corner.

"If the Minister grants a visa to the family it just encourages more people to make media campaigns and it might be unfair for other people who may not be able to make as much noise in the community," Mr Jeans said.

"This is the most significant mistake and this is not a mistake of the family."

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And yet we have some here who believe their activism is a reason to deny them Refugee Status. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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