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Question: Is bwyannnnnnnnnn ever going to accept the truth
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Not a chance, too invested    
  4 (57.1%)
Not likely, he will never accept truth    
  0 (0.0%)
Unlikely, too pig headed to back down    
  2 (28.6%)
Only if he has a hint of honesty in him    
  0 (0.0%)
Of course he will, he da man, tut tut    
  1 (14.3%)




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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #225 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
You haven't actually read Fwank's evidence now, have you, dear?

It's saying Dark Emu doesn't provide enough Boong evidence.

Doesn't sound like you'd be too happy if it did, no?

Don't lie and mislead, buftie, we already have a couple of liars from Perth.

It's not about 'enough' evidence as if some was withheld but would have supported Pascoe ; it's the opposite.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1623452148/158#158

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619403044/453#453

Etc, etc

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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #226 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
You haven't actually read Fwank's evidence now, have you, dear?

It's saying Dark Emu doesn't provide enough Boong evidence.

Doesn't sound like you'd be too happy if it did, no?

Don't lie and mislead, buftie, we already have a couple of liars from Perth.

It's not about 'enough' evidence as if some was withheld but would have supported Pascoe ; it's the opposite.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1623452148/158#158

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619403044/453#453

Etc, etc



Oh, I see. So you're now saying you want more of a Boong voice in your Aboriginal history, are you?

Most admirable of you, dear boy. It takes all kinds, no?

Whitey, Primitive, Civilised, Boong.

May a thousand flowers bloom, ya?
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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #227 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:37pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
You haven't actually read Fwank's evidence now, have you, dear?

It's saying Dark Emu doesn't provide enough Boong evidence.

Doesn't sound like you'd be too happy if it did, no?

Don't lie and mislead, buftie, we already have a couple of liars from Perth.

It's not about 'enough' evidence as if some was withheld but would have supported Pascoe ; it's the opposite.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1623452148/158#158

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619403044/453#453

Etc, etc



Oh, I see. So you're now saying you want more of a Boong voice in your Aboriginal history, are you?

Most admirable of you, dear boy. It takes all kinds, no?

Whitey, Primitive, Civilised, Boong.

May a thousand flowers bloom, ya?


Dr McGlade, a member of the UN’s Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues and a longtime campaigner for the rights of Indigenous women and children, said Professor Pascoe’s bestseller was also “misleading and offensive to Aboriginal people and culture”.

“Aboriginal people support truth-telling in this country because the past still hasn’t been properly acknowledged and responded to, notwithstanding the devastating impact it continues to have today,” Dr McGlade, a Noongar woman from southwestern Western Australia, said.  “It’s a nonsense to say that we support truth-telling and at the same time support Dark Emu, which clearly is not very truthful or accurate.”




Pascoe, Cornish not Koori, was.... er.... what's the word for 'not truthful'?  Er.... you want to call Bbwian, he practices it daily, like you.  Oh, yes got it - was  lying. Was he young and naive, like La Gillard, or deeply ideological and deliberate like you and the Cockwomble of Perth?


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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #228 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:47pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:37pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
You haven't actually read Fwank's evidence now, have you, dear?

It's saying Dark Emu doesn't provide enough Boong evidence.

Doesn't sound like you'd be too happy if it did, no?

Don't lie and mislead, buftie, we already have a couple of liars from Perth.

It's not about 'enough' evidence as if some was withheld but would have supported Pascoe ; it's the opposite.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1623452148/158#158

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619403044/453#453

Etc, etc



Oh, I see. So you're now saying you want more of a Boong voice in your Aboriginal history, are you?

Most admirable of you, dear boy. It takes all kinds, no?

Whitey, Primitive, Civilised, Boong.

May a thousand flowers bloom, ya?


Dr McGlade, a member of the UN’s Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues and a longtime campaigner for the rights of Indigenous women and children, said Professor Pascoe’s bestseller was also “misleading and offensive to Aboriginal people and culture”.

“Aboriginal people support truth-telling in this country because the past still hasn’t been properly acknowledged and responded to, notwithstanding the devastating impact it continues to have today,” Dr McGlade, a Noongar woman from southwestern Western Australia, said.  “It’s a nonsense to say that we support truth-telling and at the same time support Dark Emu, which clearly is not very truthful or accurate.”




Pascoe, Cornish not Koori, was.... er.... what's the word for 'not truthful'?  Er.... you want to call Bbwian, he practices it daily, like you.  Oh, yes got it - was  lying. Was he young and naive, like La Gillard, or deeply ideological and deliberate like you and the Cockwomble of Perth?




I present exhibit A.
But, but, but, you haven't produced any evidence.
I present exhibit B.
But, but, but you haven't produced any evidence.
I present exhibit C.
You're RACIST!!!
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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #229 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:07pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:47pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:37pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
You haven't actually read Fwank's evidence now, have you, dear?

It's saying Dark Emu doesn't provide enough Boong evidence.

Doesn't sound like you'd be too happy if it did, no?

Don't lie and mislead, buftie, we already have a couple of liars from Perth.

It's not about 'enough' evidence as if some was withheld but would have supported Pascoe ; it's the opposite.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1623452148/158#158

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619403044/453#453

Etc, etc



Oh, I see. So you're now saying you want more of a Boong voice in your Aboriginal history, are you?

Most admirable of you, dear boy. It takes all kinds, no?

Whitey, Primitive, Civilised, Boong.

May a thousand flowers bloom, ya?


Dr McGlade, a member of the UN’s Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues and a longtime campaigner for the rights of Indigenous women and children, said Professor Pascoe’s bestseller was also “misleading and offensive to Aboriginal people and culture”.

“Aboriginal people support truth-telling in this country because the past still hasn’t been properly acknowledged and responded to, notwithstanding the devastating impact it continues to have today,” Dr McGlade, a Noongar woman from southwestern Western Australia, said.  “It’s a nonsense to say that we support truth-telling and at the same time support Dark Emu, which clearly is not very truthful or accurate.”




Pascoe, Cornish not Koori, was.... er.... what's the word for 'not truthful'?  Er.... you want to call Bbwian, he practices it daily, like you.  Oh, yes got it - was  lying. Was he young and naive, like La Gillard, or deeply ideological and deliberate like you and the Cockwomble of Perth?




I present exhibit A.
But, but, but, you haven't produced any evidence.
I present exhibit B.
But, but, but you haven't produced any evidence.
I present exhibit C.
You're RACIST!!!


Exactly.
I presented several documented scholarly qualified peoples statements debunking Pascoe the liars bull shite.

Each time Bwyannnnnnn and his sycophant moronic followers asked for evidence.

They either could not see or would not believe that FULLY QUALIFIED AND EXPERIENCED ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND SCHOLARS
would know more than an uneducated and lying Pascoe.

They must be demented perhaps they need a toaster
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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #230 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:14pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:47pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:37pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
You haven't actually read Fwank's evidence now, have you, dear?

It's saying Dark Emu doesn't provide enough Boong evidence.

Doesn't sound like you'd be too happy if it did, no?

Don't lie and mislead, buftie, we already have a couple of liars from Perth.

It's not about 'enough' evidence as if some was withheld but would have supported Pascoe ; it's the opposite.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1623452148/158#158

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619403044/453#453

Etc, etc



Oh, I see. So you're now saying you want more of a Boong voice in your Aboriginal history, are you?

Most admirable of you, dear boy. It takes all kinds, no?

Whitey, Primitive, Civilised, Boong.

May a thousand flowers bloom, ya?


Dr McGlade, a member of the UN’s Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues and a longtime campaigner for the rights of Indigenous women and children, said Professor Pascoe’s bestseller was also “misleading and offensive to Aboriginal people and culture”.

“Aboriginal people support truth-telling in this country because the past still hasn’t been properly acknowledged and responded to, notwithstanding the devastating impact it continues to have today,” Dr McGlade, a Noongar woman from southwestern Western Australia, said.  “It’s a nonsense to say that we support truth-telling and at the same time support Dark Emu, which clearly is not very truthful or accurate.”




Pascoe, Cornish not Koori, was.... er.... what's the word for 'not truthful'?  Er.... you want to call Bbwian, he practices it daily, like you.  Oh, yes got it - was  lying. Was he young and naive, like La Gillard, or deeply ideological and deliberate like you and the Cockwomble of Perth?




I present exhibit A.
But, but, but, you haven't produced any evidence.
I present exhibit B.
But, but, but you haven't produced any evidence.
I present exhibit C.
You're RACIST!!!


Exactly.
I presented several documented scholarly qualified peoples statements debunking Pascoe the liars bull shite.

Each time Bwyannnnnnn and his sycophant moronic followers asked for evidence.

They either could not see or would not believe that FULLY QUALIFIED AND EXPERIENCED ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND SCHOLARS
would know more than an uneducated and lying Pascoe.

They must be demented perhaps they need a toaster


With the modern RCD's you will no longer get the desired result
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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #231 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 6:17pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:37pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
You haven't actually read Fwank's evidence now, have you, dear?

It's saying Dark Emu doesn't provide enough Boong evidence.

Doesn't sound like you'd be too happy if it did, no?

Don't lie and mislead, buftie, we already have a couple of liars from Perth.

It's not about 'enough' evidence as if some was withheld but would have supported Pascoe ; it's the opposite.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1623452148/158#158

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619403044/453#453

Etc, etc



Oh, I see. So you're now saying you want more of a Boong voice in your Aboriginal history, are you?

Most admirable of you, dear boy. It takes all kinds, no?

Whitey, Primitive, Civilised, Boong.

May a thousand flowers bloom, ya?


Dr McGlade, a member of the UN’s Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues and a longtime campaigner for the rights of Indigenous women and children, said Professor Pascoe’s bestseller was also “misleading and offensive to Aboriginal people and culture”.

“Aboriginal people support truth-telling in this country because the past still hasn’t been properly acknowledged and responded to, notwithstanding the devastating impact it continues to have today,” Dr McGlade, a Noongar woman from southwestern Western Australia, said.  “It’s a nonsense to say that we support truth-telling and at the same time support Dark Emu, which clearly is not very truthful or accurate.”




Pascoe, Cornish not Koori, was.... er.... what's the word for 'not truthful'?  Er.... you want to call Bbwian, he practices it daily, like you.  Oh, yes got it - was  lying. Was he young and naive, like La Gillard, or deeply ideological and deliberate like you and the Cockwomble of Perth?




Your source?
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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #232 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 6:19pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:47pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:37pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
You haven't actually read Fwank's evidence now, have you, dear?

It's saying Dark Emu doesn't provide enough Boong evidence.

Doesn't sound like you'd be too happy if it did, no?

Don't lie and mislead, buftie, we already have a couple of liars from Perth.

It's not about 'enough' evidence as if some was withheld but would have supported Pascoe ; it's the opposite.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1623452148/158#158

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619403044/453#453

Etc, etc



Oh, I see. So you're now saying you want more of a Boong voice in your Aboriginal history, are you?

Most admirable of you, dear boy. It takes all kinds, no?

Whitey, Primitive, Civilised, Boong.

May a thousand flowers bloom, ya?


Dr McGlade, a member of the UN’s Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues and a longtime campaigner for the rights of Indigenous women and children, said Professor Pascoe’s bestseller was also “misleading and offensive to Aboriginal people and culture”.

“Aboriginal people support truth-telling in this country because the past still hasn’t been properly acknowledged and responded to, notwithstanding the devastating impact it continues to have today,” Dr McGlade, a Noongar woman from southwestern Western Australia, said.  “It’s a nonsense to say that we support truth-telling and at the same time support Dark Emu, which clearly is not very truthful or accurate.”




Pascoe, Cornish not Koori, was.... er.... what's the word for 'not truthful'?  Er.... you want to call Bbwian, he practices it daily, like you.  Oh, yes got it - was  lying. Was he young and naive, like La Gillard, or deeply ideological and deliberate like you and the Cockwomble of Perth?




I present exhibit A.
But, but, but, you haven't produced any evidence.
I present exhibit B.
But, but, but you haven't produced any evidence.
I present exhibit C.
You're RACIST!!!


I say, Homo, are you racist?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #233 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 6:29pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:47pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:37pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 12:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:45am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
You haven't actually read Fwank's evidence now, have you, dear?

It's saying Dark Emu doesn't provide enough Boong evidence.

Doesn't sound like you'd be too happy if it did, no?

Don't lie and mislead, buftie, we already have a couple of liars from Perth.

It's not about 'enough' evidence as if some was withheld but would have supported Pascoe ; it's the opposite.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1623452148/158#158

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619403044/453#453

Etc, etc



Oh, I see. So you're now saying you want more of a Boong voice in your Aboriginal history, are you?

Most admirable of you, dear boy. It takes all kinds, no?

Whitey, Primitive, Civilised, Boong.

May a thousand flowers bloom, ya?


Dr McGlade, a member of the UN’s Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues and a longtime campaigner for the rights of Indigenous women and children, said Professor Pascoe’s bestseller was also “misleading and offensive to Aboriginal people and culture”.

“Aboriginal people support truth-telling in this country because the past still hasn’t been properly acknowledged and responded to, notwithstanding the devastating impact it continues to have today,” Dr McGlade, a Noongar woman from southwestern Western Australia, said.  “It’s a nonsense to say that we support truth-telling and at the same time support Dark Emu, which clearly is not very truthful or accurate.”




Pascoe, Cornish not Koori, was.... er.... what's the word for 'not truthful'?  Er.... you want to call Bbwian, he practices it daily, like you.  Oh, yes got it - was  lying. Was he young and naive, like La Gillard, or deeply ideological and deliberate like you and the Cockwomble of Perth?




I present exhibit A.
But, but, but, you haven't produced any evidence.
I present exhibit B.
But, but, but you haven't produced any evidence.
I present exhibit C.
You're RACIST!!!


Exactly.
I presented several documented scholarly qualified peoples statements debunking Pascoe the liars bull shite.

Each time Bwyannnnnnn and his sycophant moronic followers asked for evidence.

They either could not see or would not believe that FULLY QUALIFIED AND EXPERIENCED ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND SCHOLARS
would know more than an uneducated and lying Pascoe.

They must be demented perhaps they need a toaster


Oh? I seem to recall a number of attempts to engage you on your argument and your source. You just kept quoting yourself and howling at Bwian. BWIAAAAN!!!

The old boy is the first to take a stab at Pascoe. The old boy hasn't engaged either, but he's provided a jolly good case. The old boy has successfully provided an argument we spent a good two months asking you for, you declined each and every time.

Don't blame Bwian, Matty. If you want to engage in a good old historical chat, we're here for you.

Remember, we're all friends here, no?
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Reply #234 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 7:24pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 11:15am:
Valkie wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:59am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 7:43am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:56pm:
Quote:
You don't think the fact the huts were built by a white man is relevant?


It is not that it is the need to provide long term accommodation for several hundred people ?



Maybe he viewed it as some kind of hotel for passing groups... another White Man's view that had no reference in the Aboriginal language or approach to life.  Maybe they looked askance at this feat of construction and simply shrugged and said: "Why?"

Makes sense to a White Man to have a semi-permanent structure and organised layout
(LAYOUT - not LAYABOUT!)
available for every time you came by... easier to build big once than build every time... trouble is - many others would use the wood for fires and the stones for cooking stones or fireplaces for a couple of nights.. 
I mean... look what happened to the Golden Pyramids of Narromine... pulled down by Whartey to make pig pens and build fireplaces in homesteads and the gold cladding sold off for a few fripperies and demijohns of rum .....


Even unto this day, abbos never congregate in large numbers.

Except for footy matches and protests.


You forgot funerals, Matty.

The dead are not a race, no?


Now Now that is a bit harsh. Matty has been fighting for the voting rights of the dead for decades.

When Matty ran for office most of his best support came from this sector.
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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #235 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:50pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 7:24pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 11:15am:
Valkie wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:59am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 7:43am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:56pm:
Quote:
You don't think the fact the huts were built by a white man is relevant?


It is not that it is the need to provide long term accommodation for several hundred people ?



Maybe he viewed it as some kind of hotel for passing groups... another White Man's view that had no reference in the Aboriginal language or approach to life.  Maybe they looked askance at this feat of construction and simply shrugged and said: "Why?"

Makes sense to a White Man to have a semi-permanent structure and organised layout
(LAYOUT - not LAYABOUT!)
available for every time you came by... easier to build big once than build every time... trouble is - many others would use the wood for fires and the stones for cooking stones or fireplaces for a couple of nights.. 
I mean... look what happened to the Golden Pyramids of Narromine... pulled down by Whartey to make pig pens and build fireplaces in homesteads and the gold cladding sold off for a few fripperies and demijohns of rum .....


Even unto this day, abbos never congregate in large numbers.

Except for footy matches and protests.


You forgot funerals, Matty.

The dead are not a race, no?


Now Now that is a bit harsh. Matty has been fighting for the voting rights of the dead for decades.

When Matty ran for office most of his best support came from this sector.


True, Matty has always stood up for dead foreigners like silly old Fwank.

He flew here, no? Then he carked it and let out such a stench.

If there's one thing Matty loves, it's stench. University of Baloney, innit.
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Reply #236 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:47pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:00pm:
Dark Emu is about the lives of Indians before 1788. Huts built by white men don't really count now, do they?


Do you know why 1 white man would build 19 large buildings capable of each housing 40 people for himself to live in over a 3 year period ? Is it even possible ? A bit over 1 large building every 2 months for 3 years ? 

WHY ???

You really think that happened ?
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Reply #237 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 11:33pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:56pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 8:51pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 7:50pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:49pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2021 at 3:00pm:
still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. 





In page after page, Sutton and Walshe accuse Pascoe of a “lack of true scholarship”, ignoring Aboriginal voices, dragging respect for traditional Aboriginal culture back into the Eurocentric world of the colonial era, and “trimming” colonial observations to fit his argument. They write that while Dark Emu “purports to be factual” it is “littered with unsourced material, is poorly researched, distorts and exaggerates many points, selectively emphasises evidence to suit those opinions, and ignores large bodies of information that do not support the author’s opinions”.

“It is actually not, properly considered, a work of scholarship,” they write. “Its success as a narrative has been achieved in spite of its failure as an account of fact.”

Pascoe has removed significant passages from publications that contradict his major objectives. This boosts his contention that all along Aboriginal people were farmers and/or aquaculturalists.

One example concerns Pascoe’s quoting of the journal entries of the explorer Charles Sturt. Sutton writes:

Sturt is quoted [by Pascoe] on his party’s discovery of a large well and ‘village’ of 19 huts somewhere north of Lake Torrens in South Australia.

Pascoe’s edit of Sturt’s original 1849 text breathes oxygen into Dark Emu’s polemical edge. It’s misleading at best. For Sturt’s diary reveals Aboriginal people didn’t live in “houses” in any single site all year round.



Such accounts destabilise Pascoe’s argument, reinforced by ethnographic, colonial, and archaeological records.

Pascoe records Mitchell’s astonishment on coming upon a large, deserted village during his Australia Felix expedition, which he estimated housed “over 1000” people. This, says Sutton, is “pure fiction”. “All Mitchell says is that his party ‘noticed some of their huts’; there is no mention of anyone counting anything.” Pascoe then quotes a member of Mitchell’s party, Granville Stapylton, as saying that the buildings “were of very large dimensions, one capable of containing at least 40 persons and of very superior construction”. But he omits Stapylton’s speculation that this was “the work of a white man”, probably the runaway convict William Buckley, who lived with the Wathaurong people for three decades.


Pascoe cites no Aboriginal sources and there are no Aboriginal lingustic features to support his claims. People practicing agriculture have words for the activity. No Aboriginal language has such linguistic features.



Quote:
Pascoe then quotes a member of Mitchell’s party, Granville Stapylton, as saying that the buildings “were of very large dimensions, one capable of containing at least 40 persons and of very superior construction”. But he omits Stapylton’s speculation that this was “the work of a white man”, probably the runaway convict William Buckley, who lived with the Wathaurong people for three decades.



???

Does this make a point that is relevant ?

I would think that irrespective of who done the actual building that 19 large built structures accommodating up to 40 people each would ask the question about the need for this capacity and purpose the construction time, the need for extended accommodation etc ? It does suggest well over 100 people living in a stable environment for not a short period.

The very point used to make the emu look less credible askes significant questions that do not damage the Emu's conclusions.


You don't think the fact the huts were built by a white man is relevant? Can any point possibly be relevant in your estimation?


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You don't think the fact the huts were built by a white man is relevant?


It is not that it is the need to provide long term accommodation for several hundred people ?


If you could make sense we would all rejoice. Until then we are agast at your incoherence.



I suspect it is more that you do not want to understand. Maybe it is just that thing with the red neck right and comprehension not working well together.

Why would 19 large structures be built over 3 years capable of housing several hundred people when the expectation is for a max exaggerated population of 20 or 30 hunter gatherers who would have stayed for 2 or 3 months ?

Under the exclusive no exceptions hunter gatherer model this situation can not exist. But it did ?
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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #238 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:58pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:00pm:
I suspect it is more that you do not want to understand. Maybe it is just that thing with the red neck right and comprehension not working well together.

Why would 19 large structures be built over 3 years capable of housing several hundred people when the expectation is for a max exaggerated population of 20 or 30 hunter gatherers who would have stayed for 2 or 3 months ?

Under the exclusive no exceptions hunter gatherer model this situation can not exist. But it did ?


Where did that one come from?    Where did anyone comment on such a thing?

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