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Reply #45 - Jun 13^th, 2021 at 9:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 5:18pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 12:40pm:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

In fact Brian there is ample evidence of Pascoes selective editing and blatant misrepresentation of early explorers writings to suit his own agenda:

https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org/home/ancient-australians-the-worlds-first-7pl4p...

https://australianhistory972829073.wordpress.com/2019/11/14/bruce-pascoe-what-di...

There are other example out there as well. Roll Eyes

Seems to me that you like the Racists here are assuming that all Indigenous Australians were always Nomadic and never entered into agricultural practices, anywhere. Australia is a vast continent with multiple climatic zones. Indigenous Australians have lived here for 60,000 years plus. A lot can occur in that time span and over that large an area. Budj Bin is now recognised as being the site of a settled, Indigenous Australian culture, over six thousand years ago. Bit before European arrival on the continent, hey? Roll Eyes

I show you examples of the misrepresentation of explorers journals you were asking for, and you answer with an unrelated rant about racism and supposed Aboriginal agricultural practices. Roll Eyes

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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #46 - Jun 13^th, 2021 at 10:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 8:53pm:

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Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What race are you, Bbwian?

You throw 'racist' around like confetti without saying what race you are. You are not Aboriginal. You are not Chinese.

You are a white man spluttering about the racism of other whites. Who the fcck do you think you are to do so? What is your vantage point that is better than anyone else's?
Your vanity is greater - what else??

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Reply #47 - Jun 14^th, 2021 at 7:24pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 8:53pm:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

In psychology, an idiot has the least intelligence on the IQ scale (this now is equivalent to someone who is mentally retarded or the more politically correct “mentally challenged”); an imbecile is not quite as dumb as an idiot and is now considered equivalent to moderate retardation; a moron is then the highest level of intelligence for someone who is mentally retarded, thus considered as being mildly mentally retarded. Specifically, those who have an IQ between 0 and 25 are idiots; IQs between 26 and 50 are considered imbeciles; and those who have an IQ between 51 and 70 are considered morons.

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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #48 - Jun 14^th, 2021 at 7:29pm

Frank wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 10:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 8:53pm:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What race are you, Bbwian?

You throw 'racist' around like confetti without saying what race you are. You are not Aboriginal. You are not Chinese.

You are a white man spluttering about the racism of other whites. Who the fcck do you think you are to do so? What is your vantage point that is better than anyone else's?
Your vanity is greater - what else??

He is a white abradolebludger.

This is a race of people who have no aboriginality in them but want all the benifits of an abbo and dole bludgers.

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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #49 - Jun 14^th, 2021 at 9:03pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 9:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 5:18pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 12:40pm:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

In fact Brian there is ample evidence of Pascoes selective editing and blatant misrepresentation of early explorers writings to suit his own agenda:

https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org/home/ancient-australians-the-worlds-first-7pl4p...

https://australianhistory972829073.wordpress.com/2019/11/14/bruce-pascoe-what-di...

There are other example out there as well. Roll Eyes

Seems to me that you like the Racists here are assuming that all Indigenous Australians were always Nomadic and never entered into agricultural practices, anywhere. Australia is a vast continent with multiple climatic zones. Indigenous Australians have lived here for 60,000 years plus. A lot can occur in that time span and over that large an area. Budj Bin is now recognised as being the site of a settled, Indigenous Australian culture, over six thousand years ago. Bit before European arrival on the continent, hey? Roll Eyes

I show you examples of the misrepresentation of explorers journals you were asking for, and you answer with an unrelated rant about racism and supposed Aboriginal agricultural practices. Roll Eyes

Actually, you didn't. Your site showed one early settler's journal, not the journals that Pascoe quotes... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #50 - Jun 14^th, 2021 at 9:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 9:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 5:18pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 12:40pm:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

In fact Brian there is ample evidence of Pascoes selective editing and blatant misrepresentation of early explorers writings to suit his own agenda:

https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org/home/ancient-australians-the-worlds-first-7pl4p...

https://australianhistory972829073.wordpress.com/2019/11/14/bruce-pascoe-what-di...

There are other example out there as well. Roll Eyes

Seems to me that you like the Racists here are assuming that all Indigenous Australians were always Nomadic and never entered into agricultural practices, anywhere. Australia is a vast continent with multiple climatic zones. Indigenous Australians have lived here for 60,000 years plus. A lot can occur in that time span and over that large an area. Budj Bin is now recognised as being the site of a settled, Indigenous Australian culture, over six thousand years ago. Bit before European arrival on the continent, hey? Roll Eyes

I show you examples of the misrepresentation of explorers journals you were asking for, and you answer with an unrelated rant about racism and supposed Aboriginal agricultural practices. Roll Eyes

Actually, you didn't. Your site showed one early settler's journal, not the journals that Pascoe quotes... Roll Eyes

Your balls, and Pascoe's, have been well and truly nailed to the floor, so you now squirm, yawn and eyeroll in pain and embarrassment.
You simply have no reply to the Sutton book and its points so you ignore it. There's your education, Bbwian, your 'training in history', mail order doctorate - you obfuscate, avoid, yawn.

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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #51 - Jun 15^th, 2021 at 10:22am

Frank wrote on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 7:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 8:53pm:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

In psychology, an idiot has the least intelligence on the IQ scale (this now is equivalent to someone who is mentally retarded or the more politically correct “mentally challenged”); an imbecile is not quite as dumb as an idiot and is now considered equivalent to moderate retardation; a moron is then the highest level of intelligence for someone who is mentally retarded, thus considered as being mildly mentally retarded. Specifically, those who have an IQ between 0 and 25 are idiots; IQs between 26 and 50 are considered imbeciles; and those who have an IQ between 51 and 70 are considered morons.

Huh

Brian's a well-educated moron.

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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #52 - Jun 15^th, 2021 at 12:48pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jun 12^th, 2021 at 1:43pm:

The truth don't give a damn what colour your paint job is or what religious belief you hold...

It isn't racist to point out contrary views... is Pascoe a racist for espousing views different from others? Why the double standard?

Strange. Didn't you criticise Pascal for not being a real Boong?

Not racist. Matty says he should be sent BACK TO WHERE HE CAME FROM.

Whinging Poms are not a race, no?

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Reply #53 - Jun 15^th, 2021 at 12:51pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2021 at 6:22pm:

Hmmmmmmm.

That would be in the thread I posted where several highly qualified and experienced academics and archaeologists.
Stated outright that pascoe was a liar.

You remember the thread.
The one that you refused to respond to with anything but some ad homen statement about racists etc.

Pascoe is an unmitigated liar.

Nothing he has stated has ever been proven as fact.

Its all just like his aboriginal heritage....fabrication.

Oh, I remember that. That's the one where you couldn't say who they were or where he lied, ja?

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Reply #54 - Jun 15^th, 2021 at 1:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 9:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 5:18pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 12:40pm:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

In fact Brian there is ample evidence of Pascoes selective editing and blatant misrepresentation of early explorers writings to suit his own agenda:

https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org/home/ancient-australians-the-worlds-first-7pl4p...

https://australianhistory972829073.wordpress.com/2019/11/14/bruce-pascoe-what-di...

There are other example out there as well. Roll Eyes

Seems to me that you like the Racists here are assuming that all Indigenous Australians were always Nomadic and never entered into agricultural practices, anywhere. Australia is a vast continent with multiple climatic zones. Indigenous Australians have lived here for 60,000 years plus. A lot can occur in that time span and over that large an area. Budj Bin is now recognised as being the site of a settled, Indigenous Australian culture, over six thousand years ago. Bit before European arrival on the continent, hey? Roll Eyes

I show you examples of the misrepresentation of explorers journals you were asking for, and you answer with an unrelated rant about racism and supposed Aboriginal agricultural practices. Roll Eyes

Actually, you didn't. Your site showed one early settler's journal, not the journals that Pascoe quotes... Roll Eyes

Did you even look at the references? Would seem not. Roll Eyes

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Reply #55 - Jun 15^th, 2021 at 1:33pm

Neferti wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 3:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 12:43pm:

Neferti wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 8:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2021 at 8:08pm:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Have you read what Joseph Banks said in his Journals - (particularly the arrival in Sydney Cove) - about the Aboriginals?

Be a bit hard, Neferti, Banks never arrived in Sydney Cove. He travelled with Cook and Cook sailed past Sydney Harbour in 1776... Roll Eyes

Whatever. Did you read Banks' Journals? He was actually there, unlike Pascoe. Wink

Bryan just being a twat…. Cook & Banks we’re not far away … in Botany Bay… that’s why the First Fleet went there on arrival.

There were Aboriginals there too.

Oh and the dickhead doesn’t even know his history Cook & Banks were here in 1770… not 1776.

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Re: Dark Emu debunked
Reply #56 - Jun 15^th, 2021 at 1:41pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 15^th, 2021 at 1:33pm:

Bryan just being a twat…. Cook & Banks we’re not far away … in Botany Bay… that’s why the First Fleet went there on arrival.

There were Aboriginals there too.

Another who doesn't know his geography it seems. Such foolish people, you Racists. Tsk, tsk, you still haven't grasped what Pasoe is arguing, have you? The early explorers/settlers were well away from the coast when they encountered the Indigenous Australian fields. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #57 - Jun 15^th, 2021 at 1:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 5:08pm:

Neferti wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 3:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 12:43pm:

Neferti wrote on Jun 13^th, 2021 at 8:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2021 at 8:08pm:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Dear, oh, dear, still no effort by the Racists to actually refute what Pascoe has said. They just prefer to engage in argumentum ad hominem debate. They just believe personal insults will replace reasoned debate. It worked for them for generations so why would they stop now? Tsk, tsk, still nothing that argues against Pascoe's quoting of the journals of the early explorers/settlers where they describe encountering fields of native foods. Even when Valkie admits that he doesn't understand the argument, he still argues. Typical Racist behaviour it seems, all passion, no sense. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Have you read what Joseph Banks said in his Journals - (particularly the arrival in Sydney Cove) - about the Aboriginals?

Be a bit hard, Neferti, Banks never arrived in Sydney Cove. He travelled with Cook and Cook sailed past Sydney Harbour in 1776... Roll Eyes

Whatever. Did you read Banks' Journals? He was actually there, unlike Pascoe. Wink

Banks visited Botany Bay, Neferti. Please, at least get your geography correct. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Don’t you lecture anyone about historical events when you don’t know when Cook was here.

1770 you dill.

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Reply #58 - Jun 15^th, 2021 at 2:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15^th, 2021 at 1:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 15^th, 2021 at 1:33pm:

Bryan just being a twat…. Cook & Banks we’re not far away … in Botany Bay… that’s why the First Fleet went there on arrival.

There were Aboriginals there too.

Another who doesn't know his geography it seems. Such foolish people, you Racists. Tsk, tsk, you still haven't grasped what Pasoe is arguing, have you? The early explorers/settlers were well away from the coast when they encountered the Indigenous Australian fields. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Roll Eyes

Deflection writ large and bs….I said they were in Botany Bay … just as you did.

The first settlers didn’t arrive until after 1788….. in fact not until 1793.

And if you knew anything about Aboriginals you’d know they were around the greater Sydney harbour area and Sydney Cove. There were many coastal Aboriginal groups all around Australia.

And there were no “Aboriginal fields”…..despite your Pascoe indoctrination.

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Reply #59 - Jun 15^th, 2021 at 2:05pm

Tell us about these 'fields'...... just refresh us all - it's tedious keeping up with all the obfuscations and eye-rolling and such which breaks up the even flow of discussion.... now then - we've settled the 'park-like meadows' out Parramatta way.... what's next? Brickworks and bread ovens at Penrith? The Golden Temple of Mittagong torn down for its golden tiles and covering, its stones carried away to make pig styes and its Vestal Virgins raped etc?

I believe you hit the nail on the head, Brian... 'what Pascoe is arguing' - Freudian Slip? So it's not as fixed as the Northern Star - he has to argue it ... doing a damned fine job of defending his corner with nothing solid....

He's as much a last ditcher as his supporters....

That reminds me - WHY did mothra have to 'make peace' with her Kaffir neighbours? Was she stirring up trouble? Were they stirring up trouble? Who exactly was making demands here that required a 'peace settlement'? Was she guilty of the sin of being there and breathing their air - always was, always will be?

I love these ideologues and the way they like to portray things..... Cool

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