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China to reach 1 billion vax doses today
Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:25pm

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/18/china/billion-vaccine-shots-mic-intl-hnk/inde...

China's about to administer its billionth coronavirus shot.

Yes, you read that right.

Updated 1615 GMT (0015 HKT) June 18, 2021

Within days, China will reach a staggering 1 billion doses in its Covid-19 vaccination drive -- a scale and speed unrivaled by any other country in the world.
As of Wednesday, China had administered more than 945 million doses -- three times the number delivered in the United States, and almost 40% of the 2.5 billion shots given globally.

The number is all the more remarkable given its rollout had a slow start. China only reached its first million doses on March 27 -- two weeks behind the US. But the pace picked up significantly in May, with more than 500 million shots given over the past month, according to data from China's National Health Commission.

On Tuesday alone, it administered more than 20 million doses. At that rate, it is likely to exceed 1 billion doses this weekend.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107265 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today Reply #1 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:55pm The Chinese Sinovac is different - it doesn't use mRNA. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55212787 Is it a safer vaccine?
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30112 Gender:	Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today Reply #2 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:56pm It's true. I heard this from people I know in china but I very much doubt it will help them if there are outbreaks !!
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30112 Gender:	Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today Reply #3 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:57pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:55pm: The Chinese Sinovac is different it doesn't use mRNA. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55212787 Is it a safer vaccine? No it can have lots of nasty side effects but their people have no choice and have to have it
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Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today
Reply #4 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:59pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

The Chinese Sinovac is different it doesn't use mRNA.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55212787

Is it a safer vaccine?

No it can have lots of nasty side effects but their people have no choice and have to have it Sad

But the mRNA technology in our vaccines is very experimental.
The Chinese vax uses the old tried and true methods.

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Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today
Reply #5 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

The Chinese Sinovac is different it doesn't use mRNA.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55212787

Is it a safer vaccine?

No it can have lots of nasty side effects but their people have no choice and have to have it Sad

But the mRNA technology is out vaccines is very experimental.
The Chinese vax uses the old tried and true methods.

but they still put a lot of junk in these vaccines in order to deliver the payload and of course its hard to find out what they are Sad

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today
Reply #6 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:05pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

The Chinese Sinovac is different it doesn't use mRNA.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55212787

Is it a safer vaccine?

No it can have lots of nasty side effects but their people have no choice and have to have it Sad

But the mRNA technology in our vaccines is very experimental.
The Chinese vax uses the old tried and true methods.

but they still put a lot of junk in these vaccines in order to deliver the payload and of course its hard to find out what they are Sad

Not as dangerous as the unknown effects of mRNA.

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Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today
Reply #7 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:05pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

The Chinese Sinovac is different it doesn't use mRNA.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55212787

Is it a safer vaccine?

No it can have lots of nasty side effects but their people have no choice and have to have it Sad

But the mRNA technology in our vaccines is very experimental.
The Chinese vax uses the old tried and true methods.

but they still put a lot of junk in these vaccines in order to deliver the payload and of course its hard to find out what they are Sad

Not as dangerous as the unknown effects of mRNA.

yes best to avoid any of them. According to a dude from India I spoke to yesterday the vaccines aren't that effective and they suspect they are causing an outbreak of black fungus Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/YMCW1Jo6sGKV/

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107265 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today Reply #8 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:14pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:08pm: yes best to avoid any of them. According to a dude from India I spoke to yesterday the vaccines aren't that effective and they suspect they are causing an outbreak of black fungus
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25024 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today Reply #9 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:58pm What a load of schitt. I will believe it when the Chinese start publishing the data on how many people they have confirmed with the coronavirus in China.
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Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today
Reply #10 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 8:17pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:58pm:

What a load of schitt.
I will believe it when the Chinese start publishing the data on how many people they have confirmed with the coronavirus in China.

I believe them.
They made their own vaccine and got it out there fast.

Why the hell didn't we make an ordinary vaccine as we
normally would have for any other virus and give it to Australians?
Why did we have to delay everything by 6 to 8 months
and get carried away with the hysteria about the "wonderful" new mRNA technology?

Analogy -
you're stuck at the side of the road with a flat tyre.
Do you spend a difficult 20 minutes pumping it up with a slow hand pump
or do you wait 5 hours for the RACV to turn up and help you?

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Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today
Reply #11 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 8:19pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:05pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

The Chinese Sinovac is different it doesn't use mRNA.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55212787

Is it a safer vaccine?

No it can have lots of nasty side effects but their people have no choice and have to have it Sad

But the mRNA technology in our vaccines is very experimental.
The Chinese vax uses the old tried and true methods.

but they still put a lot of junk in these vaccines in order to deliver the payload and of course its hard to find out what they are Sad

Not as dangerous as the unknown effects of mRNA.

yes best to avoid any of them. According to a dude from India I spoke to yesterday the vaccines aren't that effective and they suspect they are causing an outbreak of black fungus Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/YMCW1Jo6sGKV/

leprosy I heard, and some people are growing 3 heads.

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Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today
Reply #12 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 8:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 8:17pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:58pm:

What a load of schitt.
I will believe it when the Chinese start publishing the data on how many people they have confirmed with the coronavirus in China.

I believe them.
They made their own vaccine and got it out there fast.

Why the hell didn't we make an ordinary vaccine as we
normally would have for any other virus and give it to Australians?
Why did we have to delay everything by 6 to 8 months
and get carried away with the hysteria about the "wonderful" new mRNA technology?

Analogy -
you're stuck at the side of the road with a flat tyre.
Do you spend a difficult 20 minutes pumping it up with a slow hand pump
or do you wait 5 hours for the RACV to turn up and help you?

You should be happy with the AstraZeneca vaccine then, it's not an mRNA vaccine. Go get your shot.

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Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today
Reply #13 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 9:08pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 8:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 8:17pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:58pm:

What a load of schitt.
I will believe it when the Chinese start publishing the data on how many people they have confirmed with the coronavirus in China.

I believe them.
They made their own vaccine and got it out there fast.

Why the hell didn't we make an ordinary vaccine as we
normally would have for any other virus and give it to Australians?
Why did we have to delay everything by 6 to 8 months
and get carried away with the hysteria about the "wonderful" new mRNA technology?

Analogy -
you're stuck at the side of the road with a flat tyre.
Do you spend a difficult 20 minutes pumping it up with a slow hand pump
or do you wait 5 hours for the RACV to turn up and help you?

You should be happy with the AstraZeneca vaccine then, it's not an mRNA vaccine. Go get your shot.

It still sounds scary:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vacc...

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Re: China to reach 1 billion vax doses today
Reply #14 - Jun 19^th, 2021 at 9:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 8:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 8:17pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 19^th, 2021 at 3:58pm:

What a load of schitt.
I will believe it when the Chinese start publishing the data on how many people they have confirmed with the coronavirus in China.

I believe them.
They made their own vaccine and got it out there fast.

Why the hell didn't we make an ordinary vaccine as we
normally would have for any other virus and give it to Australians?
Why did we have to delay everything by 6 to 8 months
and get carried away with the hysteria about the "wonderful" new mRNA technology?

Analogy -
you're stuck at the side of the road with a flat tyre.
Do you spend a difficult 20 minutes pumping it up with a slow hand pump
or do you wait 5 hours for the RACV to turn up and help you?

You should be happy with the AstraZeneca vaccine then, it's not an mRNA vaccine. Go get your shot.

It still sounds scary:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vacc...

At least you know it's extremely unlikely side effects, what do you know about Sinovac?

Quote:

AZD1222 comes out of decades of research on adenovirus-based vaccines. In July, the first one was approved for general use — a vaccine for Ebola, made by Johnson & Johnson. Advanced clinical trials are underway for other diseases, including H.I.V. and Zika.

edit: I don't understand why you fear the mRNA vaccines. Basically for a short period of time your own cells provide the foreign protein needed to cause an immune response.

Quote:

What would you say to people who are afraid that mRNA vaccines alter your DNA?
It’s simply not true. In fact, it’s the other way around. DNA makes RNA. The mRNA in the COVID-19 vaccines only goes into a certain part of the cell — the outer part known as the cytoplasm. It doesn’t go into the cell’s nucleus, the part of the cell where the DNA lives. And, mRNA doesn’t last very long because its job is to give the information to the cell — a blueprint for how to make a protein — and then it goes away.

edit2: This is even how a part of how viruses themselves kinda work.

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