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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30111 Gender:	Proof that masks don't do anything Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:12pm So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !! Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines
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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #1 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:18pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:

So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines Sad

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccine...

Oh look, he's awell known quack.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Reply #2 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:20pm https://byrambridle.com/
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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #3 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:42pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:

So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines Sad

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccine...

Oh look, he's a well known quack.

That's your best come back is it mucus ?? Cheesy

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Give you the incontrovertible evidence so then now he's a quack Cheesy

LOL

Tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?

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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #4 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:45pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:42pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:

So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines Sad

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccine...

Oh look, he's a well known quack.

That's your best come back is it mucus ?? Cheesy

LOL

Give you the incontrovertible evidence so then now he's a quack Cheesy

LOL

Tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?

Check out the 2nd website I showed. That has a far more comprehensive takedown of this RWNJ

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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #5 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:07pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:45pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:42pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:

So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines Sad

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccine...

Oh look, he's a well known quack.

That's your best come back is it mucus ?? Cheesy

LOL

Give you the incontrovertible evidence so then now he's a quack Cheesy

LOL

Tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?

Check out the 2nd website I showed. That has a far more comprehensive takedown of this RWNJ

Don't worry about that other website or the AMA mafia or the ABC shills, just tell us where is reasoning is flawed ??

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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #6 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:07pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:45pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:42pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:

So the brains trust tell us to wear mask to stop the spread of the virus ?? Think again !!

Just more BS from the authorities who are trying to inject us with unproven vaccines Sad

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccine...

Oh look, he's a well known quack.

That's your best come back is it mucus ?? Cheesy

LOL

Give you the incontrovertible evidence so then now he's a quack Cheesy

LOL

Tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?

Check out the 2nd website I showed. That has a far more comprehensive takedown of this RWNJ

Don't worry about that other website or the AMA mafia or the ABC shills, just tell us where is reasoning is flawed ??

I just told you that the site responds better than I can, so read it.

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30111 Gender:	Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Reply #7 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:24pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm: I just told you that the site responds better than I can, so read it. Forget about that site. Just tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?? Surely it is not that hard LOL
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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5483 Gender:	Re: Proof that masks don't do anything Reply #8 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:25pm Masks do nothing? As it is waste of time talking to to you about the technical details, just ask yourself this: If masks are a waste of time why do medical personnel wear them as a matter of course?
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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #9 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:37pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:24pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

I just told you that the site responds better than I can, so read it.

Forget about that site. Just tell us where his reasoning is flawed ?? Surely it is not that hard Cheesy

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First the paper he quoted was about influenza not Covid. Yes the flu transmits via aerosol, but it also transmits via fomite transmission. I also note this paragprah on the paper he posted

"Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group."

In other words, the evidence is weak and cant be controlled for imperfect mask use.

And he missed this paragprah from the conclusion

"We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility (Figure 2). However, as with hand hygiene, face masks might be able to reduce the transmission of other infections and therefore have value in an influenza pandemic when healthcare resources are stretched."

What I suspect is happening is not through the face masks not working but by people not wearing them properly or combining them with other forms of hygeine control.

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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #10 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:42pm

Also I notice he doesn't have references for droplet size?

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2820%2930323-4

"Although surgical masks offer little protection from
inhaled agents, they have a role in protecting healthcare workers when worn by patients. Placing surgical
masks on patients with multidrug-resistant tuberculosis
decreased transmission to guinea pigs by 56%,138 and
masking of patients with cystic fibrosis reduced
P aeruginosa air contamination by 8%.139 Surgical masks
reduced the quantity of influenza viral RNA by 2·8 times
Viewpoint
www.thelancet.com/respiratory Vol 8 September 2020 921
in small particles and by 25 times in large ones.45 More
recently, surgical masks effectively reduced large droplets
(>5 µm) of seasonal coronaviruses from three of ten
patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·09) and small aerosols (<5 µm)
from four of ten patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·04).47 Similarly,
surgical masks reduced droplets of influenza from six of
23 to one of 27 (p=0·04). However, the reduction in
influenza small aerosols (<5 µm) was not significant.
There is mounting evidence suggesting that the wearing
of masks can reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in community and health-care settings.

Thats by Kevin P Fennelly Pulmonary Branch, Division of
Intramural Research, National
Heart, Lung, and Blood
Institute, National Institutes of
Health, Bethesda, MD, USA

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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #11 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:57pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:25pm:

Masks do nothing? As it is waste of time talking to to you about the technical details, just ask yourself this: If masks are a waste of time why to medical personnel wear them as a matter of course? Roll Eyes

They stop and liquids and spit falling into the patient during operating procedures. They don't stop the small size vapour particles from floating away into the room.

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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #12 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:58pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:42pm:

Also I notice he doesn't have references for droplet size?

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2820%2930323-4

"Although surgical masks offer little protection from
inhaled agents, they have a role in protecting healthcare workers when worn by patients. Placing surgical
masks on patients with multidrug-resistant tuberculosis
decreased transmission to guinea pigs by 56%,138 and
masking of patients with cystic fibrosis reduced
P aeruginosa air contamination by 8%.139 Surgical masks
reduced the quantity of influenza viral RNA by 2·8 times
Viewpoint
www.thelancet.com/respiratory Vol 8 September 2020 921
in small particles and by 25 times in large ones.45 More
recently, surgical masks effectively reduced large droplets
(>5 µm) of seasonal coronaviruses from three of ten
patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·09) and small aerosols (<5 µm)
from four of ten patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·04).47 Similarly,
surgical masks reduced droplets of influenza from six of
23 to one of 27 (p=0·04). However, the reduction in
influenza small aerosols (<5 µm) was not significant.
There is mounting evidence suggesting that the wearing
of masks can reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in community and health-care settings.

Thats by Kevin P Fennelly Pulmonary Branch, Division of
Intramural Research, National
Heart, Lung, and Blood
Institute, National Institutes of
Health, Bethesda, MD, USA

the water vapour from 5 layers of these paper masks still makes it through to fog up his glasses Cheesy

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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #13 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 2:02pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:42pm:

Also I notice he doesn't have references for droplet size?

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2820%2930323-4

"Although surgical masks offer little protection from
inhaled agents, they have a role in protecting healthcare workers when worn by patients. Placing surgical
masks on patients with multidrug-resistant tuberculosis
decreased transmission to guinea pigs by 56%,138 and
masking of patients with cystic fibrosis reduced
P aeruginosa air contamination by 8%.139 Surgical masks
reduced the quantity of influenza viral RNA by 2·8 times
Viewpoint
www.thelancet.com/respiratory Vol 8 September 2020 921
in small particles and by 25 times in large ones.45 More
recently, surgical masks effectively reduced large droplets
(>5 µm) of seasonal coronaviruses from three of ten
patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·09) and small aerosols (<5 µm)
from four of ten patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·04).47 Similarly,
surgical masks reduced droplets of influenza from six of
23 to one of 27 (p=0·04). However, the reduction in
influenza small aerosols (<5 µm) was not significant.
There is mounting evidence suggesting that the wearing
of masks can reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in community and health-care settings.

Thats by Kevin P Fennelly Pulmonary Branch, Division of
Intramural Research, National
Heart, Lung, and Blood
Institute, National Institutes of
Health, Bethesda, MD, USA

the water vapour from 5 layers of these paper masks still makes it through to fog up his glasses Cheesy

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Wow so my refutation involves peer reviewed studies, yours is just look at his galsses.

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Re: Proof that masks don't do anything
Reply #14 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 2:05pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:58pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:42pm:

Also I notice he doesn't have references for droplet size?

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2820%2930323-4

"Although surgical masks offer little protection from
inhaled agents, they have a role in protecting healthcare workers when worn by patients. Placing surgical
masks on patients with multidrug-resistant tuberculosis
decreased transmission to guinea pigs by 56%,138 and
masking of patients with cystic fibrosis reduced
P aeruginosa air contamination by 8%.139 Surgical masks
reduced the quantity of influenza viral RNA by 2·8 times
Viewpoint
www.thelancet.com/respiratory Vol 8 September 2020 921
in small particles and by 25 times in large ones.45 More
recently, surgical masks effectively reduced large droplets
(>5 µm) of seasonal coronaviruses from three of ten
patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·09) and small aerosols (<5 µm)
from four of ten patients to 0 of 11 (p=0·04).47 Similarly,
surgical masks reduced droplets of influenza from six of
23 to one of 27 (p=0·04). However, the reduction in
influenza small aerosols (<5 µm) was not significant.
There is mounting evidence suggesting that the wearing
of masks can reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in community and health-care settings.

Thats by Kevin P Fennelly Pulmonary Branch, Division of
Intramural Research, National
Heart, Lung, and Blood
Institute, National Institutes of
Health, Bethesda, MD, USA

the water vapour from 5 layers of these paper masks still makes it through to fog up his glasses Cheesy

LOL

Wow so my refutation involves peer reviewed studies, yours is just look at his galsses.

so where does the water vapour come from to steam up his glasses mucus ?? his arse ?? Cheesy

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this is what you really need to stop any contamination. Far cry from a paper mask Cheesy

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