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Labor Promises To Axe Cashless Welfare Card
Jun 23rd, 2021 at 4:32pm
 
Labor promises to axe privatised cashless welfare card
In Daily May 26 2021
The federal opposition says it will end a controversial, privatised cashless debit welfare card if elected – but backs a government-run alternative being available if communities ask for it.



Labor this week said it would scrap the government’s Cashless Debit Card program and “consult with communities on a localised approach to addressing employment issues”.

The Cashless Debit Card is managed by private company Indue.

The federal government previously paid Indue up to $10,000 per card for the program, while the Australian Council of Social Services last year said initial card trials cost taxpayers $18.9 million, of which $10 million went to the card operator.   Sad

The government has since refused to reveal Indue’s payments for running the scheme.   Sad

Under the welfare management scheme, 80 per cent of a low-income recipient’s payments are quarantined so that money cannot be spent on alcohol, drugs or for gambling.

The scheme is currently being trialled in South Australia, Western Australia and the Northern Territory. A bid to make the program permanent last year failed but the trial was extended for two years.

Under Labor’s proposal, communities would be able to volunteer to participate in a government-run equivalent of the debit card scheme.

“We think there’s a role if communities are requesting a government-run system in terms of cashless welfare,” Opposition leader Anthony Albanese said this week.

“I don’t want to say that it never has a role … but the idea of a privatised organisation running the welfare system like this and doing it in a way in which they have an interest in its expansion, that’s the thing.

“They introduced the profit motive above what is the public interest. It’s the public interest that’s got to count here.

“The truth is that for some communities, unlimited cashless card assists some communities, particularly women, in remote communities who requested it, effectively, and wanted this to happen for their communities so that they were making sure that they were buying essentials for themselves and their kids.”

Albanese said the federal government’s proposal to expand the card “defies its own evidence”.

The Morrison government has said the card was intended to assist with financial management, encourage people to find work and reduce substance abuse – but findings from studies into the card have found little evidence to support this.   Sad

Research from the University of South Australia and Monash University released last year showed “no substantiative impact on measures of gambling, drug and alcohol abuse, crime or emergency department presentations”.

Dr Luke Greenacre, who co-led the study, told InDaily while there had been some evidence of “little pockets of success in specific communities” the card’s average effectiveness was “basically zero”.

“For the cost of the program relative to the benefits that can kind of be supported around the edges, it’s largely not worth pursuing further,” he said.

Greenacre said under the opposition’s proposal, the federal government may need to set up credit card facilities and operate as the supplier.

“One of the ideas behind the Indue card was that it would use the standard Eftpos and credit card systems that are implemented in every store across the country,” he said.

“As it’s currently technologically designed they will need a company to do that for them.

“If they were going to repeal that private company then you’ll need something more akin to a basis card, which again has a very different format of implementation, because that often restricts where you can shop not just what you can buy.

“And a person can’t travel as well with the basics card.”

The Australian Unemployed Workers Union has urged the opposition to “take a principled position for once” saying government funding would be better spent on community programs.

“There are better ways to support people who want assistance with financial management and these programs already exist,” a spokesperson said.

“Instead of wasting public money on income management for people on payments, the ALP should commit to investing these funds in community-designed programs that address the underlying causes of challenges the government claims the Cashless Debit Card and Basics Card are supposed to solve.”
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Reply #1 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:23pm
 
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo

It was our only chance for get the chronically lazy parasites actually doing something.

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Reply #2 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:30pm
 
Cashless welfare card is ONLY about transferring taxpayer funds to donors pockets whilst making villains of the unemployed ...

if anyone thinks it serves any other purpose they have sheat for brains
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Reply #3 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:43pm
 
Well said John Smith, how right you are.  The cashless welfare card idea belongs in the rubbish bin.   Sad   
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Reply #4 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 6:21pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:43pm:
Well said John Smith, how right you are.  The cashless welfare card idea belongs in the rubbish bin.   Sad   



Then why does Labor support changing it to a Government run cashless  welfare card ?
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Reply #5 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 6:28pm
 
Why do people need any type of cashless welfare card?.   Sad 
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Reply #6 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 6:42pm
 
You have to wonder how a private company makes a profit from it if the are not ripping off the communities ?

Whoops I may have answered my own question.
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Reply #7 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 7:02pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 6:21pm:
whiteknight wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:43pm:
Well said John Smith, how right you are.  The cashless welfare card idea belongs in the rubbish bin.   Sad   



Then why does Labor support changing it to a Government run cashless  welfare card ?


do they?
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Reply #8 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 7:03pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:30pm:
Cashless welfare card is ONLY about transferring taxpayer funds to donors pockets whilst making villains of the unemployed ...

if anyone thinks it serves any other purpose they have sheat for brains


You got that one right, old clock.....
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Reply #9 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 7:04pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 7:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 5:30pm:
Cashless welfare card is ONLY about transferring taxpayer funds to donors pockets whilst making villains of the unemployed ...

if anyone thinks it serves any other purpose they have sheat for brains


You got that one right, old clock.....


who are you calling old? Angry
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Reply #10 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 7:10pm
 
This is what the Abos want,  why not just hand these out?

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Reply #11 - Jun 23rd, 2021 at 8:13pm
 
Welfare is just that, something to live on.

It's not a profession ( well for some it is)
It's not an earned income.

It's meant to give you something to buy the basics and keep well.
Not for smokes
Not for grog
Not for Netflix
It's for food to eat and a roof over your head.

The card is to ensure that this is exactly what it is used for,  not boozing up, smoking or paying for drugs.

The cashless welfare card MUST be for all welfare recipients, no exceptions.

If you want money to spend on what you want
GET A FRIGGING JOB.
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Reply #12 - Jun 24th, 2021 at 4:49am
 
The Dan Murphy's gift card idea has merit....
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Reply #13 - Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:56am
 
Valkie wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 8:13pm:
Welfare is just that, something to live on.

It's not a profession ( well for some it is)
It's not an earned income.

It's meant to give you something to buy the basics and keep well.
Not for smokes
Not for grog
Not for Netflix
It's for food to eat and a roof over your head.

The card is to ensure that this is exactly what it is used for,  not boozing up, smoking or paying for drugs.

The cashless welfare card MUST be for all welfare recipients, no exceptions.

If you want money to spend on what you want
GET A FRIGGING JOB.


You are disgusting. You want old-age disabled ppl to not even get netflix?

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Reply #14 - Jun 24th, 2021 at 8:58am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 24th, 2021 at 7:56am:
Valkie wrote on Jun 23rd, 2021 at 8:13pm:
Welfare is just that, something to live on.

It's not a profession ( well for some it is)
It's not an earned income.

It's meant to give you something to buy the basics and keep well.
Not for smokes
Not for grog
Not for Netflix
It's for food to eat and a roof over your head.

The card is to ensure that this is exactly what it is used for,  not boozing up, smoking or paying for drugs.

The cashless welfare card MUST be for all welfare recipients, no exceptions.

If you want money to spend on what you want
GET A FRIGGING JOB.


You are disgusting. You want old-age disabled ppl to not even get netflix?

Spot


They should have saved more and worked harder.

Or been nicer to their kids

We paid for my parents Foxtell
we bought them anything they needed
I put in a new kitchen, bathroom and did all the repairs on my parents home.

Perhaps people just need better families.
And families are what you make of them.
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