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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #60 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:15pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

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Earth to Gordon: Are you trying to say that the "simple explanation" is the grand conspiracy by big pharma to not sell drugs?

I'd say without a doubt, if an off-patent cheap as chips drug which is effective as both a prophylactic to prevent Covid and treat the disease came along, (and I'm not saying it is) companies who've invested billions into vaccine development would use every bit of their considerable influence to make sure their vaccines remained financially viable.

Establishing motive is not the same as establishing the grand conspiracy you have been ranting about. Either you are saying it or you are not saying it. Which is it?

And it certainly does not explain why the internet's lunatic fringe has latched onto ivermectin as the focus of their deranged rantings.

I actually haven't suggested there is a conspiracy, I'm just pointing out the censorship to which discussion of the drug has been subject to.

The Nobel prize winner who discovered the drug had his Youtube clip where he discussed the possible use of Ivermecten for treating Covid removed.
Do you find that odd?

You have made a claim of censorship, and it has been blown out of the water, rather comically too. It seems that despite an army of lunatics peddling various claims about ivermectin on the internet, no-one is actually willing to say anything.

Why?

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #62 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:27pm

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

Earth to Gordon: Are you trying to say that the "simple explanation" is the grand conspiracy by big pharma to not sell drugs?

I'd say without a doubt, if an off-patent cheap as chips drug which is effective as both a prophylactic to prevent Covid and treat the disease came along, (and I'm not saying it is) companies who've invested billions into vaccine development would use every bit of their considerable influence to make sure their vaccines remained financially viable.

Establishing motive is not the same as establishing the grand conspiracy you have been ranting about. Either you are saying it or you are not saying it. Which is it?

And it certainly does not explain why the internet's lunatic fringe has latched onto ivermectin as the focus of their deranged rantings.

I actually haven't suggested there is a conspiracy, I'm just pointing out the censorship to which discussion of the drug has been subject to.

The Nobel prize winner who discovered the drug had his Youtube clip where he discussed the possible use of Ivermecten for treating Covid removed.
Do you find that odd?

You have made a claim of censorship, and it has been blown out of the water, rather comically too. It seems that despite an army of lunatics peddling various claims about ivermectin on the internet, no-one is actually willing to say anything.

Why?

Greg posted a clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura receiving his Nobel Prize in 2015.
The Youtube clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura discussing Ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid has been taken down.
Is that confusing for you?

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #63 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:36pm

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

Earth to Gordon: Are you trying to say that the "simple explanation" is the grand conspiracy by big pharma to not sell drugs?

I'd say without a doubt, if an off-patent cheap as chips drug which is effective as both a prophylactic to prevent Covid and treat the disease came along, (and I'm not saying it is) companies who've invested billions into vaccine development would use every bit of their considerable influence to make sure their vaccines remained financially viable.

Establishing motive is not the same as establishing the grand conspiracy you have been ranting about. Either you are saying it or you are not saying it. Which is it?

And it certainly does not explain why the internet's lunatic fringe has latched onto ivermectin as the focus of their deranged rantings.

I actually haven't suggested there is a conspiracy, I'm just pointing out the censorship to which discussion of the drug has been subject to.

The Nobel prize winner who discovered the drug had his Youtube clip where he discussed the possible use of Ivermecten for treating Covid removed.
Do you find that odd?

You have made a claim of censorship, and it has been blown out of the water, rather comically too. It seems that despite an army of lunatics peddling various claims about ivermectin on the internet, no-one is actually willing to say anything.

Why?

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gordon is completely correct Roll Eyes

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #64 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:39pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

Earth to Gordon: Are you trying to say that the "simple explanation" is the grand conspiracy by big pharma to not sell drugs?

I'd say without a doubt, if an off-patent cheap as chips drug which is effective as both a prophylactic to prevent Covid and treat the disease came along, (and I'm not saying it is) companies who've invested billions into vaccine development would use every bit of their considerable influence to make sure their vaccines remained financially viable.

Establishing motive is not the same as establishing the grand conspiracy you have been ranting about. Either you are saying it or you are not saying it. Which is it?

And it certainly does not explain why the internet's lunatic fringe has latched onto ivermectin as the focus of their deranged rantings.

I actually haven't suggested there is a conspiracy, I'm just pointing out the censorship to which discussion of the drug has been subject to.

The Nobel prize winner who discovered the drug had his Youtube clip where he discussed the possible use of Ivermecten for treating Covid removed.
Do you find that odd?

You have made a claim of censorship, and it has been blown out of the water, rather comically too. It seems that despite an army of lunatics peddling various claims about ivermectin on the internet, no-one is actually willing to say anything.

Why?

um

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gordon is completely correct Roll Eyes

Have you read Matt Taibbi's writing on it? The guy is actually very far to the left.

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #65 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:03pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:39pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

Earth to Gordon: Are you trying to say that the "simple explanation" is the grand conspiracy by big pharma to not sell drugs?

I'd say without a doubt, if an off-patent cheap as chips drug which is effective as both a prophylactic to prevent Covid and treat the disease came along, (and I'm not saying it is) companies who've invested billions into vaccine development would use every bit of their considerable influence to make sure their vaccines remained financially viable.

Establishing motive is not the same as establishing the grand conspiracy you have been ranting about. Either you are saying it or you are not saying it. Which is it?

And it certainly does not explain why the internet's lunatic fringe has latched onto ivermectin as the focus of their deranged rantings.

I actually haven't suggested there is a conspiracy, I'm just pointing out the censorship to which discussion of the drug has been subject to.

The Nobel prize winner who discovered the drug had his Youtube clip where he discussed the possible use of Ivermecten for treating Covid removed.
Do you find that odd?

You have made a claim of censorship, and it has been blown out of the water, rather comically too. It seems that despite an army of lunatics peddling various claims about ivermectin on the internet, no-one is actually willing to say anything.

Why?

um

no

gordon is completely correct Roll Eyes

Have you read Matt Taibbi's writing on it? The guy is actually very far to the left.

I'm left but that doesn't mean I believe whatever other left leaning people do. I demonstrably do not, to the point of some of them labelling me right.

Giving me someone's political persuasion does not mean shit as far as the evidence goes.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137876 Gender:	Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI Reply #66 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:15pm Someone said, and I quote: " ... the bloke who discovered the drug, Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura had his Youtube discussion on it pulled." Yet, when I go to YouTube I find this: Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura's YouTube discussion on Ivermectin. Why the lies? I'm curious.
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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #67 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:17pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

Earth to Gordon: Are you trying to say that the "simple explanation" is the grand conspiracy by big pharma to not sell drugs?

I'd say without a doubt, if an off-patent cheap as chips drug which is effective as both a prophylactic to prevent Covid and treat the disease came along, (and I'm not saying it is) companies who've invested billions into vaccine development would use every bit of their considerable influence to make sure their vaccines remained financially viable.

Establishing motive is not the same as establishing the grand conspiracy you have been ranting about. Either you are saying it or you are not saying it. Which is it?

And it certainly does not explain why the internet's lunatic fringe has latched onto ivermectin as the focus of their deranged rantings.

I actually haven't suggested there is a conspiracy, I'm just pointing out the censorship to which discussion of the drug has been subject to.

The Nobel prize winner who discovered the drug had his Youtube clip where he discussed the possible use of Ivermecten for treating Covid removed.
Do you find that odd?

You have made a claim of censorship, and it has been blown out of the water, rather comically too. It seems that despite an army of lunatics peddling various claims about ivermectin on the internet, no-one is actually willing to say anything.

Why?

Greg posted a clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura receiving his Nobel Prize in 2015.
The Youtube clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura discussing Ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid has been taken down.
Is that confusing for you?

Prove it.

Don't prove that someone has claimed that the Youtube clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura discussing Ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid has been taken down.

Prove that the Youtube clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura discussing Ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid has been taken down.

Prove that it ever existed.

Good luck, loser

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #68 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 4:02pm:

Someone said, and I quote:

" ... the bloke who discovered the drug, Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura had his Youtube discussion on it pulled."

Yet, when I go to YouTube I find this:

Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura's YouTube discussion on Ivermectin.

Why the lies? Undecided

I'm curious.

So what's the problem groggary ? Why isn't AMA mafia chief Omar shithead promoting it as a cure ?

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #69 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:28pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 4:02pm:

Someone said, and I quote:

" ... the bloke who discovered the drug, Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura had his Youtube discussion on it pulled."

Yet, when I go to YouTube I find this:

Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura's YouTube discussion on Ivermectin.

Why the lies? Undecided

I'm curious.

So what's the problem groggary ? Why isn't AMA mafia chief Omar shithead promoting it as a cure ?

It's not a cure.

That's why.

Any other questions?

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Reply #70 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:31pm

gordon is, of course correct , as any search of google would reveal.

this guy is a very sober and thoughful doctor , gordon and worth a look.

as he points out, the data from mexico, india and south america are very promising .

and the cochrane institute , the worlds leading library of peer reviewed studies have designed a study that could be done in the west but as ivermectin is about $2 a bottle, no company will fund the study.

quite a good view if you are interested

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137876 Gender:	Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI Reply #71 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:33pm Prove that the Youtube clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura discussing Ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid has been taken down.
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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #72 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:31pm:

gordon is, of course correct , as any search of google would reveal.

this guy is a very sober and thoughful doctor , gordon and worth a look.

as he points out, the data from mexico, india and south america are very promising .

and the cochrane institute , the worlds leading library of peer reviewed studies have designed a study that could be done in the west but as ivermectin is about $2 a bottle, no company will fund the study.

quite a good view if you are interested

https://scholar.google.cz/scholar?q=ivermectin+covid+studies&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_v...

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #73 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 4:02pm:

Someone said, and I quote:

" ... the bloke who discovered the drug, Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura had his Youtube discussion on it pulled."

Yet, when I go to YouTube I find this:

Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura's YouTube discussion on Ivermectin.

Why the lies? Undecided

I'm curious.

So what's the problem groggary ? Why isn't AMA mafia chief Omar shithead promoting it as a cure ?

It's not a cure.

That's why.

Any other questions?

It is a cure where your vaccines aren't a cure !!

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #74 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Prove that the Youtube clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura discussing Ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid has been taken down.

I'll help you out here.

First thing you need to do is prove that the clip existed.

NOT prove that someone said the clip existed, but actually prove that the clip existed.

i.e. post a link to the clip.

Over to you

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