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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #75 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Prove that the Youtube clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura discussing Ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid has been taken down.

I'll help you out here.

First thing you need to do is prove that the clip existed.

NOT prove that someone said the clip existed, but actually prove that the clip existed.

i.e. post a link to the clip.

Over to you

Ummm... What are you proving to yourself? Have you lost it again?

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #76 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:41pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 4:02pm:

Someone said, and I quote:

" ... the bloke who discovered the drug, Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura had his Youtube discussion on it pulled."

Yet, when I go to YouTube I find this:

Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura's YouTube discussion on Ivermectin.

Why the lies? Undecided

I'm curious.

So what's the problem groggary ? Why isn't AMA mafia chief Omar shithead promoting it as a cure ?

It's not a cure.

That's why.

Any other questions?

It is a cure where your vaccines aren't a cure !!

Who said that vaccines are a cure?

I'm curious.

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #77 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:43pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Prove that the Youtube clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura discussing Ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid has been taken down.

I'll help you out here.

First thing you need to do is prove that the clip existed.

NOT prove that someone said the clip existed, but actually prove that the clip existed.

i.e. post a link to the clip.

Over to you

Ummm... What are you proving to yourself? Have you lost it again?

In order to prove the clip was taken down, they need to prove it existed in the first place.

Get back to me when they can do that.

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #78 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:43pm

one of the problems with it , is that it was already in widespread use in much of africa and south america and , being so cheap and safe, it was given to 100's of 1000's of patients but not as part of some trial . now its hard to work out what effect it had.

but gordon is right.

youtube have said , all clips must tow the FDA line and their line is that studies need to be done.

the meta analysis from egypt, peru, mexico argentina and mexico shows it definitely has a positive effect.

the likelihood that a drug which cost $2 a course will EVER be the subject of a large study in the USA is zero.

who is going to fund that?

pfizer Grin

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #79 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:41pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 4:02pm:

Someone said, and I quote:

" ... the bloke who discovered the drug, Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura had his Youtube discussion on it pulled."

Yet, when I go to YouTube I find this:

Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura's YouTube discussion on Ivermectin.

Why the lies? Undecided

I'm curious.

So what's the problem groggary ? Why isn't AMA mafia chief Omar shithead promoting it as a cure ?

It's not a cure.

That's why.

Any other questions?

It is a cure where your vaccines aren't a cure !!

Who said that vaccines are a cure?

I'm curious.

Vaccines are never a cure, not on an individual level that the word implies.

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #80 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:45pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:41pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 4:02pm:

Someone said, and I quote:

" ... the bloke who discovered the drug, Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura had his Youtube discussion on it pulled."

Yet, when I go to YouTube I find this:

Nobel Prize winner Satoshi Omura's YouTube discussion on Ivermectin.

Why the lies? Undecided

I'm curious.

So what's the problem groggary ? Why isn't AMA mafia chief Omar shithead promoting it as a cure ?

It's not a cure.

That's why.

Any other questions?

It is a cure where your vaccines aren't a cure !!

Who said that vaccines are a cure?

I'm curious.

Vaccines are never a cure.

Exactly.

Tell that to Lastnail.

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #81 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Prove that the Youtube clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura discussing Ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid has been taken down.

I'll help you out here.

First thing you need to do is prove that the clip existed.

NOT prove that someone said the clip existed, but actually prove that the clip existed.

i.e. post a link to the clip.

Over to you

Ummm... What are you proving to yourself? Have you lost it again?

In order to prove the clip was taken down, they need to prove it existed in the first place.

Get back to me when they can do that.

Cheers Wink

You obviously missed the fundamental flaw that you were talking to yourself. Come to terms with that and we can see where we go.

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #82 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:47pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

but gordon is right.

youtube have said , all clips must tow the FDA line and their line is that studies need to be done.

In order to prove the clip was taken down, you need to prove it existed in the first place.

The only way to do that, is by providing a link to the clip.

Over to you ...

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #83 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

but gordon is right.

youtube have said , all clips must tow the FDA line and their line is that studies need to be done.

In order to prove the clip was taken down, you need to prove it existed in the first place.

The only way to do that, is by providing a link to the clip.

Over to you ...

You should work for the CCP. Perhaps you do.

Context: I used to post bloody pics of Chinese executions to Bobby's hangings. Those pics can no longer be found through google.

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #84 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:56pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

but gordon is right.

youtube have said , all clips must tow the FDA line and their line is that studies need to be done.

In order to prove the clip was taken down, you need to prove it existed in the first place.

The only way to do that, is by providing a link to the clip.

Over to you ...

You should work for the CCP. Perhaps you do.

Context: I used to post bloody pics of Chinese executions to Bobby's hangings. Those pics can no longer be found through google.

Prove it.

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #85 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 8:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:56pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

but gordon is right.

youtube have said , all clips must tow the FDA line and their line is that studies need to be done.

In order to prove the clip was taken down, you need to prove it existed in the first place.

The only way to do that, is by providing a link to the clip.

Over to you ...

You should work for the CCP. Perhaps you do.

Context: I used to post bloody pics of Chinese executions to Bobby's hangings. Those pics can no longer be found through google.

Prove it.

Don't be a dick for the sake of proving it. You know the pics I posted in opposition to Bobby's clean execution thoughts. You know I'm anti DP, so what are you trying to ask me for? I know you've seen them.

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #86 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 8:02pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:39pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

Earth to Gordon: Are you trying to say that the "simple explanation" is the grand conspiracy by big pharma to not sell drugs?

I'd say without a doubt, if an off-patent cheap as chips drug which is effective as both a prophylactic to prevent Covid and treat the disease came along, (and I'm not saying it is) companies who've invested billions into vaccine development would use every bit of their considerable influence to make sure their vaccines remained financially viable.

Establishing motive is not the same as establishing the grand conspiracy you have been ranting about. Either you are saying it or you are not saying it. Which is it?

And it certainly does not explain why the internet's lunatic fringe has latched onto ivermectin as the focus of their deranged rantings.

I actually haven't suggested there is a conspiracy, I'm just pointing out the censorship to which discussion of the drug has been subject to.

The Nobel prize winner who discovered the drug had his Youtube clip where he discussed the possible use of Ivermecten for treating Covid removed.
Do you find that odd?

You have made a claim of censorship, and it has been blown out of the water, rather comically too. It seems that despite an army of lunatics peddling various claims about ivermectin on the internet, no-one is actually willing to say anything.

Why?

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gordon is completely correct Roll Eyes

Have you read Matt Taibbi's writing on it? The guy is actually very far to the left.

I'm left but that doesn't mean I believe whatever other left leaning people do. I demonstrably do not, to the point of some of them labelling me right.

Giving me someone's political persuasion does not mean shit as far as the evidence goes.

Actually Set, I commented on his political leaning to assuage fears that this particular journalist is not a Trump devotee.

Pierre Kory of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) has had his appearances removed by YouTube. Even Satoshi Ōmura, who won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for his work on ivermectin, reportedly had a video removed by YouTube this week.

A screen shot of when the clip was deleted.

https://twitter.com/PierreKory/status/1410622361477472261
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/a-case-of-intellectual-capture-on

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #87 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 8:03pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

Earth to Gordon: Are you trying to say that the "simple explanation" is the grand conspiracy by big pharma to not sell drugs?

I'd say without a doubt, if an off-patent cheap as chips drug which is effective as both a prophylactic to prevent Covid and treat the disease came along, (and I'm not saying it is) companies who've invested billions into vaccine development would use every bit of their considerable influence to make sure their vaccines remained financially viable.

Establishing motive is not the same as establishing the grand conspiracy you have been ranting about. Either you are saying it or you are not saying it. Which is it?

And it certainly does not explain why the internet's lunatic fringe has latched onto ivermectin as the focus of their deranged rantings.

I actually haven't suggested there is a conspiracy, I'm just pointing out the censorship to which discussion of the drug has been subject to.

The Nobel prize winner who discovered the drug had his Youtube clip where he discussed the possible use of Ivermecten for treating Covid removed.
Do you find that odd?

You have made a claim of censorship, and it has been blown out of the water, rather comically too. It seems that despite an army of lunatics peddling various claims about ivermectin on the internet, no-one is actually willing to say anything.

Why?

Greg posted a clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura receiving his Nobel Prize in 2015.
The Youtube clip of Dr Satoshi Ōmura discussing Ivermectin as a possible treatment for Covid has been taken down.
Is that confusing for you?

How do you know this? Why does it sound like an empty conspiracy theory?

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #88 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 8:05pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 8:02pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 7:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:39pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

Earth to Gordon: Are you trying to say that the "simple explanation" is the grand conspiracy by big pharma to not sell drugs?

I'd say without a doubt, if an off-patent cheap as chips drug which is effective as both a prophylactic to prevent Covid and treat the disease came along, (and I'm not saying it is) companies who've invested billions into vaccine development would use every bit of their considerable influence to make sure their vaccines remained financially viable.

Establishing motive is not the same as establishing the grand conspiracy you have been ranting about. Either you are saying it or you are not saying it. Which is it?

And it certainly does not explain why the internet's lunatic fringe has latched onto ivermectin as the focus of their deranged rantings.

I actually haven't suggested there is a conspiracy, I'm just pointing out the censorship to which discussion of the drug has been subject to.

The Nobel prize winner who discovered the drug had his Youtube clip where he discussed the possible use of Ivermecten for treating Covid removed.
Do you find that odd?

You have made a claim of censorship, and it has been blown out of the water, rather comically too. It seems that despite an army of lunatics peddling various claims about ivermectin on the internet, no-one is actually willing to say anything.

Why?

um

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gordon is completely correct Roll Eyes

Have you read Matt Taibbi's writing on it? The guy is actually very far to the left.

I'm left but that doesn't mean I believe whatever other left leaning people do. I demonstrably do not, to the point of some of them labelling me right.

Giving me someone's political persuasion does not mean shit as far as the evidence goes.

Actually Set, I commented on his political leaning to assuage fears that this particular journalist is not a Trump devotee.

Pierre Kory of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) has had his appearances removed by YouTube. Even Satoshi Ōmura, who won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for his work on ivermectin, reportedly had a video removed by YouTube this week.

A screen shot of when the clip was deleted.

https://twitter.com/PierreKory/status/1410622361477472261
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/a-case-of-intellectual-capture-on

You've proven that there is a claim it was deleted.

Now prove that it was deleted.

First step: prove it existed.

Over to you ...

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Re: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVI
Reply #89 - Jul 18^th, 2021 at 8:06pm

More youtube censorship surrounding ivermectin

Google’s YouTube has ratcheted up censorship to a new level by removing two videos from a U.S. Senate committee. They were from a Dec. 8 Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs hearing on early treatment of Covid-19. One was a 30-minute summary; the other was the opening statement of critical-care specialist Pierre Kory.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/youtube-cancels-the-u-s-senate-11612288061

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