Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 3 4 
Send Topic Print
Just Tucking My Shirt In (Read 2487 times)
rhino
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 17179
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #15 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
  There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act.
What was his motive?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
UnSubRocky
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Crocodile Hunter: Origins

Posts: 25019
Rockhampton
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #16 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm
 
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
  There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act.
What was his motive?


His desire for popularity.
Back to top
 

At this stage...
WWW  
IP Logged
 
rhino
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 17179
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #17 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:36pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
  There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act.
What was his motive?


His desire for popularity.
By pretending to rape a 15 year old?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
philperth2010
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 20508
Perth
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #18 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:55pm
 
Rudy Giuliani put himself in this situation and has diminished his reputation through lies and manipulation....Those who defend him show their lack of integrity and denial of facts???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Back to top
 

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)
 
IP Logged
 
UnSubRocky
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Crocodile Hunter: Origins

Posts: 25019
Rockhampton
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #19 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:59pm
 
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:36pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
  There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act.
What was his motive?


His desire for popularity.
By pretending to rape a 15 year old?


The scene, that I rewatched today, made no mention of Maria saying that she was 15 years old. And the way Sasha made the scene look like a prank, Giuliani made no effort to take legal action against them.
Back to top
 

At this stage...
WWW  
IP Logged
 
rhino
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 17179
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #20 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:21pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:36pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
  There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act.
What was his motive?


His desire for popularity.
By pretending to rape a 15 year old?


The scene, that I rewatched today, made no mention of Maria saying that she was 15 years old. And the way Sasha made the scene look like a prank, Giuliani made no effort to take legal action against them.
Focus, watch the clip again. He is told she is only 15.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
UnSubRocky
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Crocodile Hunter: Origins

Posts: 25019
Rockhampton
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #21 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 4:24am
 
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:21pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:36pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
  There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act.
What was his motive?


His desire for popularity.
By pretending to rape a 15 year old?


The scene, that I rewatched today, made no mention of Maria saying that she was 15 years old. And the way Sasha made the scene look like a prank, Giuliani made no effort to take legal action against them.
Focus, watch the clip again. He is told she is only 15.


I have now watched that interview and subsequent bedroom scene for the third time. Twice today. Once a few months back. Giuliani is only told that the character is 15 years old only when Borat comes back in his women's underwear costume. "She is 15. She is too old for you", cries Borat. Giuliani does not react in a way that indicates that he was not in on the scene.

If you look at that 4 minute scene, it is heavily edited. Maria Bakalova crosses her legs and then recrosses them multiple times in quick cut scenes. I have not seen legs crossing from left over right and then right over left since Jordana Brewster had quick cut scenes in the Lethal Weapon tv series. Obviously, the interview took longer than 3 minutes. But, how can Giuliani explain his need to announce a drink with a 15-year-old in the bedroom when the cameramen were still filming. And I had to wonder how Giuliani managed to not notice the hidden camera on the desk, despite the camera being "hidden". Or the apparent act of Giuliani sitting up straight as if to react to Borat coming back.

Subsequent interviews relating to the Borat Subsequent film seem to indicate that this was just a rouse to encourage people to watch the movie. Sasha is too smart to do something illegal and then have it appear in a full-length movie. We would not see this scene in this film if the legality of the scene was questionable. Nothing more than a promotional scene. Bakalova is 24 years old at the time of filming. And Giuliani would not be stupid enough to have an interviewer around him without a background check of her, anyway.
Back to top
 

At this stage...
WWW  
IP Logged
 
greggerypeccary
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 139030
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #22 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:31am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 4:24am:
And Giuliani would not be stupid enough to have an interviewer around him without a background check of her, anyway.


Lol   Grin

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
greggerypeccary
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 139030
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #23 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:33am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:36pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
  There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act.
What was his motive?


His desire for popularity.
By pretending to rape a 15 year old?


The scene, that I rewatched today, made no mention of Maria saying that she was 15 years old. And the way Sasha made the scene look like a prank, Giuliani made no effort to take legal action against them.


Because they did nothing illegal.

FFS  Roll Eyes

Giuliani got caught with his pants down - literally.

If Cohen hadn't come barging into the room there's no telling what Rudy might have done.

She was very lucky not to have been sexually assaulted.

___________________

Oh, and just a side note: Rudy married his own cousin.

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
rhino
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 17179
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #24 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:47am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 4:24am:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:21pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:36pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
  There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act.
What was his motive?


His desire for popularity.
By pretending to rape a 15 year old?


The scene, that I rewatched today, made no mention of Maria saying that she was 15 years old. And the way Sasha made the scene look like a prank, Giuliani made no effort to take legal action against them.
Focus, watch the clip again. He is told she is only 15.


I have now watched that interview and subsequent bedroom scene for the third time. Twice today. Once a few months back. Giuliani is only told that the character is 15 years old only when Borat comes back in his women's underwear costume. "She is 15. She is too old for you", cries Borat. Giuliani does not react in a way that indicates that he was not in on the scene.

If you look at that 4 minute scene, it is heavily edited. Maria Bakalova crosses her legs and then recrosses them multiple times in quick cut scenes. I have not seen legs crossing from left over right and then right over left since Jordana Brewster had quick cut scenes in the Lethal Weapon tv series. Obviously, the interview took longer than 3 minutes. But, how can Giuliani explain his need to announce a drink with a 15-year-old in the bedroom when the cameramen were still filming. And I had to wonder how Giuliani managed to not notice the hidden camera on the desk, despite the camera being "hidden". Or the apparent act of Giuliani sitting up straight as if to react to Borat coming back.

Subsequent interviews relating to the Borat Subsequent film seem to indicate that this was just a rouse to encourage people to watch the movie. Sasha is too smart to do something illegal and then have it appear in a full-length movie. We would not see this scene in this film if the legality of the scene was questionable. Nothing more than a promotional scene. Bakalova is 24 years old at the time of filming. And Giuliani would not be stupid enough to have an interviewer around him without a background check of her, anyway.
You still havent provided any logical reason why you think Guiliani was "in on the act".
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
UnSubRocky
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Crocodile Hunter: Origins

Posts: 25019
Rockhampton
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #25 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 2:58pm
 
rhino wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:47am:
You still havent provided any logical reason why you think Guiliani was "in on the act".


Because he knew he was on camera and he was acting like he was aware that it seemed like a set up. Giuliani did not overreact when Borat went back into the room wearing women's underwear. Borat's over the top beard would have been obvious to even those that were not paying attention.
Back to top
 

At this stage...
WWW  
IP Logged
 
UnSubRocky
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Crocodile Hunter: Origins

Posts: 25019
Rockhampton
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #26 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:04pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:33am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:36pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
  There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act.
What was his motive?


His desire for popularity.
By pretending to rape a 15 year old?


The scene, that I rewatched today, made no mention of Maria saying that she was 15 years old. And the way Sasha made the scene look like a prank, Giuliani made no effort to take legal action against them.


Because they did nothing illegal.

FFS  Roll Eyes


They accused him of being with a 15-year-old. And Sasha came in wearing women's underwear for his part of the prank, which is a form of sexual harassment. Rape accusations. Sexual harassment. There is enough against Cohen that Giuliani could cite as a reason for not having the scene released on film. And there would have needed to be a release for this sort of scene to go to film, prior interview scene not withstanding.

I get the feeling that Sasha has pranked the audience on this one. Not since Monty Python's intermission scene in the "Holy Grail" movie has the movie producers pranked the audience so well.
Back to top
 

At this stage...
WWW  
IP Logged
 
greggerypeccary
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 139030
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #27 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:07pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:33am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:36pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:35pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 6:40pm:
  There was nothing to suggest that Giuliani was not in on the act.
What was his motive?


His desire for popularity.
By pretending to rape a 15 year old?


The scene, that I rewatched today, made no mention of Maria saying that she was 15 years old. And the way Sasha made the scene look like a prank, Giuliani made no effort to take legal action against them.


Because they did nothing illegal.

FFS  Roll Eyes


They accused him of being with a 15-year-old. And Sasha came in wearing women's underwear for his part of the prank, which is a form of sexual harassment. Rape accusations. Sexual harassment. There is enough against Cohen that Giuliani could cite as a reason for not having the scene released on film. And there would have needed to be a release for this sort of scene to go to film, prior interview scene not withstanding.

I get the feeling that Sasha has pranked the audience on this one. Not since Monty Python's intermission scene in the "Holy Grail" movie has the movie producers pranked the audience so well.


The only one pranked was the ex-lawyer who married his cousin.

Cohen did nothing illegal.

From the article I posted previously:

“This person comes in yelling and screaming, and I thought this must be a scam or a shakedown, so I reported it to the police. He then ran away,” Giuliani said. The police found no crime had been committed.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
rhino
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 17179
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #28 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 3:53pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 2:58pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:47am:
You still havent provided any logical reason why you think Guiliani was "in on the act".


Because he knew he was on camera and he was acting like he was aware that it seemed like a set up. Giuliani did not overreact when Borat went back into the room wearing women's underwear. Borat's over the top beard would have been obvious to even those that were not paying attention.
Thats not a logical reason, thats just how it appeared to your eyes. You claimed that Guiliani was trying to make himself "popular", that claim is ludicrous.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
greggerypeccary
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 139030
Gender: male
Re: Just Tucking My Shirt In
Reply #29 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 4:11pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 2:58pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:47am:
You still havent provided any logical reason why you think Guiliani was "in on the act".


Because he knew he was on camera and he was acting like he was aware that it seemed like a set up. Giuliani did not overreact when Borat went back into the room wearing women's underwear.


Didn't overreact?

“This person comes in yelling and screaming, and I thought this must be a scam or a shakedown, so I reported it to the police. He then ran away,” Giuliani said. The police found no crime had been committed.

You don't think that:

a) reporting it to the police was an overreaction, and

b) reporting it to the police proves that he wasn't in on it?

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 4 
Send Topic Print