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Jun 27th, 2021 at 1:05pm
 
One in four workers over 50 don’t believe they’ll ever retire   Sad

June 27, 2021
Sydney Morning Herald

One in four people in the workforce over the age of 50 does not believe they will ever retire - but it’s evenly split whether they’re working for love or money.   Sad

A nationally representative survey of 2830 Australians aged over 50 found financial insecurity was a key reason; 36 per cent of those who don’t expect to retire rated their finances below five out of 10.

However, the same proportion of people rated their finances 7 or more, suggesting that not wanting to retire is not purely a financial decision.

Matilde Russo, 56, wants to keep working for a long time to come because she enjoys it.


The study was conducted by Newgate Research for the COTA Federation (Councils on the Ageing) and an overview of findings will be published in the State of the (Older) Nation 2021 report.

Joan Hughes, president of COTA NSW and chairperson of COTA Federation, said many older people wanted to keep working for the social connection and satisfaction but planned to either reduce paid work or pick up volunteering.

“There is a bit of problem with that notion of retirement, what we call ‘the R word’, and what that conjures up for some people,” Ms Hughes said.

“There is a lot of ageism and maybe some people have seen that happen to their parents or feel like they don’t know what the next chapter of their life will be or that if they don’t have work they don’t have an identity.”

She added that many people over 50 still had huge mortgages and would find themselves in financial difficulties if they started to reduce paid work, but the decision was often taken out of their hands because of health or redundancy.

The research found 49 per cent of people aged 65 had retired, down from 60 per cent in 2018.



The number of people aged 66 to 74 who had retired jumped in the past three years, while the number of people in their 60s who wanted more paid work because they needed the money had doubled. The report speculated the increase in retirement in this age group could be a result of the COVID-19 pandemic forcing older Australians to retire early.

56 year old Matilde Russo is a  Manager for MLC Asset Management she could afford to retire but loves her job and hopes to work in some capacity for a long time to come.


Stella Avramopoulos, chief executive of female-focused charity Good Shepherd, said older women were likely to be among those wanting to work for financial reasons.

Women’s superannuation balances were on average 40 per cent lower than men because of structural inequalities, older women were the fastest growing group of homeless people and women had borne the brunt of job losses during the pandemic, she said.

“We need to ensure retirement isn’t a pipedream for younger women by working towards super parity,” Ms Avramopoulos said.

Matilde Russo, 56, from Caringbah has a senior job in financial markets and believes it’s “her time to shine” after taking a backseat to her husband’s high-flying career when the children were younger.

“Financially I can afford to retire now but I love my job and the sense of achievement and identity it gives,” Ms Russo said. “I hope to continue working in some capacity for a long time to come.”



Dave Wallace, 57, a land surveyor from Newcastle, doubts he will ever retire: mainly for financial reasons after a separation left him with a large mortgage. Downsizing would be difficult because his 22-year-old daughter lives with him and he had to support her when she lost her job during COVID.

“In the future I’d like to work less rather than not at all,” Mr Wallace said. “It’s difficult to give something up that I’ve spent a lifetime acquiring the skills to do.”
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Reply #1 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 1:08pm
 
Not everyone wants to work forever.  Now here is a good idea, why not lower the government funded pension age?.   Sad
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Reply #2 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 1:21pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 1:08pm:
Not everyone wants to work forever.  Now here is a good idea, why not lower the government funded pension age?.   Sad


Unfortunately, it'll never happen. Especially since we have a Liberal Federal government at the moment and the whole pension age increase idea was started by Labor (the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd circus).

The Liberals even wanted to increase the pension age to 70 by 2035 and I wouldn't be surprised if they try to push this again if they win next year's Federal Election.

I know a lot of people who have worked and paid tax for decades are angry because when they started work and all through their working lives they were led to believe that once they reached the age of 65 they would be eligible for the age pension and now the Federal government has 'moved the goalposts (or finish line)' for them.

In my case, I started work in 1974 and retired 2 years ago. I can't get the age pension until I'm 67 (in 2024) but I have more than enough super to live on until then.




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Reply #3 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 3:49pm
 
I had planned to work longer, but when new management came in and was an idiot, I retired.
I have a good super balance and can live on my super income for 20 years at the current rate, but I expect the cost of living to go up eventually and when it gets annoying I'm go on a part pension and save my money.
At 63 (this year) I've basically had enough working for idiots and paying taxes so bludgers can waste it.

As soon as I get my caravan, I'm off for a couple of maps.

What shites me about the pension is that politicians, judges and several thousand senior public servants can retire when they like and get a pension 10 times the average Joe.
With no assert test requirements.
Cops get to retire 10 years early with a bigger pension.
It s bull shite that there are different rules for different people.
It should be one system for all.
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Reply #4 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 4:39pm
 
In Asia the old ladies get the job of walking miles to pick up the sticks for the cooking fire.... in Russia they get to sweep the snow off the streets in return for their generous state pension.....

Why should our Elders be any different?  That's how it works in a globalised/internationalised world....
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Reply #5 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 4:48pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 4:39pm:
In Asia the old ladies get the job of walking miles to pick up the sticks for the cooking fire.... in Russia they get to sweep the snow off the streets in return for their generous state pension.....

Why should our Elders be any different?  That's how it works in a globalised/internationalised world....


A fair proportion of retired people work in a volunteer organisation.

Some work for over 30 hours a week.

Without all the volunteer work being done by all these retired people, the grubberment would have to find another way to provide these services and it would cost them dearly.

When I finally get on the pension.
Il be making a play to get volunteers to start demanding fair compensation in one way or another for work they do for free.

After all, is there ANYTHING that the gruberment does for free for anyone?
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Reply #6 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 6:46pm
 
my intention will be to work forever.

once you lose momentum in this world , you are faaaaarked.

once you dont have something to "bounce out of bed for' apart from just to survive one more day, its all over for you.

sitting on a beach or playing endless rounds of golf...how mediocre.

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Reply #7 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 6:49pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 4:48pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 4:39pm:
In Asia the old ladies get the job of walking miles to pick up the sticks for the cooking fire.... in Russia they get to sweep the snow off the streets in return for their generous state pension.....

Why should our Elders be any different?  That's how it works in a globalised/internationalised world....


A fair proportion of retired people work in a volunteer organisation.

Some work for over 30 hours a week.

Without all the volunteer work being done by all these retired people, the grubberment would have to find another way to provide these services and it would cost them dearly.

When I finally get on the pension.
Il be making a play to get volunteers to start demanding fair compensation in one way or another for work they do for free.

After all, is there ANYTHING that the gruberment does for free for anyone?



Yes - I've always said the same thing.  A little non-income tested kick for volunteer work would go a long way with many.
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Reply #8 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 7:21pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 1:08pm:
Not everyone wants to work forever.  Now here is a good idea, why not lower the government funded pension age?.   Sad



Because you are responsible for yourself, not the government.


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Reply #9 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 7:23pm
 
Well since we have embraced and fell in love with neo-liberalism I dont see why you guys are complaining.

Its the system called neo-liberalism it stops people thinking of the over all good for themselves and their neighbours and makes them think of only themselves the individual.

I'm ok dont care about Joe Bloggs next door.

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Reply #10 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 7:42pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 6:46pm:
my intention will be to work forever.

once you lose momentum in this world , you are faaaaarked.

once you dont have something to "bounce out of bed for' apart from just to survive one more day, its all over for you.

sitting on a beach or playing endless rounds of golf...how mediocre.


There is a lot to be said for that.

I have offered to go on a 4 day week soon.
I like what I do, just want 'some time' for me.
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Reply #11 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 9:55pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 6:46pm:
my intention will be to work forever.

once you lose momentum in this world , you are faaaaarked.

once you dont have something to "bounce out of bed for' apart from just to survive one more day, its all over for you.

sitting on a beach or playing endless rounds of golf...how mediocre.



I suppose if all you have is work then there is something to be said for this.
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Valkie wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 3:49pm:
I had planned to work longer, but when new management came in and was an idiot, I retired.
I have a good super balance and can live on my super income for 20 years at the current rate, but I expect the cost of living to go up eventually and when it gets annoying I'm go on a part pension and save my money.
At 63 (this year) I've basically had enough working for idiots and paying taxes so bludgers can waste it.

As soon as I get my caravan, I'm off for a couple of maps.

What shites me about the pension is that politicians, judges and several thousand senior public servants can retire when they like and get a pension 10 times the average Joe.
With no assert test requirements.
Cops get to retire 10 years early with a bigger pension.
It s bull shite that there are different rules for different people.
It should be one system for all.
Uh, no they dont.
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Reply #13 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 10:42pm
 
Because of my underemployment for the last 20 years, I have decided that if I get a job full-time by next year, I will have to set a retirement of 70 years of age. I will not be able to afford to retire before then.
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Reply #14 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 10:53pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 10:42pm:
Because of my underemployment for the last 20 years, I have decided that if I get a job full-time by next year, I will have to set a retirement of 70 years of age. I will not be able to afford to retire before then.
70 is realistic, I had a colleague who planned for that, he had a stroke at the age of 69, now hes a vegetable.
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