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Afghanistan - Cowardistan
Jul 6^th, 2021 at 10:21pm

Opportunists while West was there, cowards on their own. Twenty years of help and what do they have to show for it?

"More than 1037 Afghan security personnel fled across the frontier, Tajikistan’s national security committee said, as it ordered 20,000 of its own soldiers to reinforce the border. The Taliban posted videos online showing Afghan soldiers surrendering."

And they are coming to a suburb near you in large numbers.

How good is Afghan culture?? Much better than evil Western civilisation. Still, they will want to come and live in Western hell. That's the sacrifice they are prepared to make for their superior Afghan culture and you evil pasty-faced infidels had better let them!

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Reply #1 - Jul 6^th, 2021 at 10:46pm

Been waiting for this one to surface. As predicted, the 'deal' with the Taliban is worth the naan it was written on and they are now seeking to re-establish their control over the entire nation by violence and force. So much for the 'peace deal' brokered, and with Taliban guarantees.... along with the promise that breaking the deal would lead to intervention.......

Trouble is - Taliban merely means 'religious scholar' - and so any deal made with one warlord does not hold for the rest.... truly this in an intractable place.... all that blood and gold signed away for nothing.... just like Vietnam...

Only solution is to cut it loose, tow it out into the deepest Indian Ocean, and bomb it until it sinks....

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Re: Afghanistan - Cowardistan
Reply #3 - Jul 7^th, 2021 at 10:13am

Bertie wrote on Jul 6^th, 2021 at 10:21pm:

Opportunists while West was there, cowards on their own.

Twenty years of help and what do they have to show for it?

MORE IMPORTANTLY Agatha, what do Western nations have to show for it !!

The West never should have 'went in' there, imo. [....and i said it at-the-time.]

The West was vain, in thinking they [the West] were, could be, a virtuous example to people who were [themselves] 'religious zealots'.

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INSTEAD.....

Back in 2001 [as today], we had the means to continually punish the Taliban and Al Qaeda [in Afghanistan], if they continued to harbour, train and to sponsor ISLAMIST terrorists, before their cadres travelled into Western nations to conduct their Jihad.

But instead, we invaded, ....and tried to 'help the people' of Afghanistan,
a moslem majority jurisdiction, whose majority, rabidly support ISLAMIC law.

Stupid.

And what benefit has going into Afghanistan been to us, to spend all of our treasure, in a place like Afghanistan ?

None at all.

Bertie wrote on Jul 6^th, 2021 at 10:21pm:

And they are coming to a suburb near you in large numbers.

Yes, they are.

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For more detail,
WWW Search for these article title lines.....

Austria: Muslim migrant raped pensioner, 72, six years ago, lives free in the country, no deportation

Somalia: Muslim murders at least 10 in jihad suicide bombing at Mogadishu cafe

Niger: Muslims stop bus, murder the bus driver, two villagers and a village chief

Germany: Muslim migrant screaming ‘Allahu akbar’ stabs and kills fellow resident of refugee center

Russia: Muslims plot jihad massacres with firearms and knives among crowds in Moscow and Astrakhan

Germany: Police want to ban circulation of photos of women murdered in Würzburg jihad massacre
[why ??? - Yadda]

Massachusetts: Black nationalist group in armed standoff with police claims to be Moroccan and Muslim

Oman clears it all up at the UN: ‘Terrorism not linked to any religion’

Boston: Muslim who stabbed rabbi had overstayed student visa, is in US illegally

Western nations, imo, should be conducting PUBLIC EXECUTIONS [every day] [....of any person(s) who have been convicted of planning an ISLAMIST attack in our nation].

Charging, convicting, and then putting people like Abdul Nacer Ben Brika into our prison system, is a sop.

We need to PUBLICLY EXECUTE such persons, with extreme prejudice.

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The example of Abdul Nacer Ben Brika....

n.b.
.....and remember, this is the guy [and his crew], who were convicted,
of planning to bomb the MCG, ...on GRAND FINAL day.

Just like any good 'Aussie' moslem would want to. /sarc off

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IMAGE...

Abdul Nacer Ben Brika

Quote:

August 4, 2005
Australian Islamic leader defends jihad

"I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion.

It doesn't tolerate," he said.

"The only one law which needs to spread, it can be here or anywhere else, is Islam."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2005-08-04/australian-islamic-leader-defends-jihad/20...

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Act within the law.

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8
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Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal.

We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the rule of law.

Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve.

Moslems want to destroy all of the institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society.

SUGGESTION;
If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Act within the law.

Otherwise we are no better than moslems.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Afghanistan - Cowardistan
Reply #5 - Jul 7^th, 2021 at 1:09pm

London Has Fallen Official Trailer #2 (2016) - Morgan Freeman, Gerard Butler Movie HD

03 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJaVR3ZXJjs

You can easily 'pick' which are the WOKE [and moslem] user reviews on IMDB for this movie.

Wow, some of them were so, so, 'triggered' by this movie. Grin

London Has Fallen shows militant ISLAMISTS, as arrogant, violent, corrupt, and utterly ruthless.

And i just can't figure, why 'the good' moslems in the world, don't like how this movie portrays militant ISLAMISTS ? Tongue

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #6 - Jul 7^th, 2021 at 1:33pm

Bertie wrote on Jul 6^th, 2021 at 10:21pm:

Opportunists while West was there, cowards on their own. Twenty years of help and what do they have to show for it?

"More than 1037 Afghan security personnel fled across the frontier, Tajikistan’s national security committee said, as it ordered 20,000 of its own soldiers to reinforce the border. The Taliban posted videos online showing Afghan soldiers surrendering."

And they are coming to a suburb near you in large numbers.

How good is Afghan culture?? Much better than evil Western civilisation. Still, they will want to come and live in Western hell. That's the sacrifice they are prepared to make for their superior Afghan culture and you evil pasty-faced infidels had better let them!

Aussie near future = Corporate Khazarian fascism + Afghani Sharia Law.
Grin

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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6406 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Afghanistan - Cowardistan Reply #7 - Jul 7^th, 2021 at 1:40pm Anglo perverts are really upset when someone doesn't want to die for their goals.
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Re: Afghanistan - Cowardistan
Reply #8 - Jul 7^th, 2021 at 7:09pm

IMAGE.....

Former Afghan President Hamid Karzai

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Karzai: ‘NATO failed to defeat terrorism in Afghanistan’

Jul 6, 2021

By Robert Spencer 29 Comments

“The reconstruction of the country’s infrastructure, helping with education and other areas was very welcome and produced good results for the country.”

Sure, but it did nothing whatsoever to stop jihad terrorism.

State Department wonks believe that the U.S. can win allies essentially buying them, and that enemies will see our displays of good will and turn toward us. This is foolish and demonstrates ignorance of how jihadis and their allies use such gestures to stir up suspicion and hatred of the non-Muslim bearing gifts, portraying the gestures of good will as an attempt to seduce Muslims away from Islam:

“And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, ‘Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the guidance.’ If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allah no protector or helper.” (Qur’an 2:120)

“But the military plans to fight extremism and terrorism was a failure because they did not do what they should have done.” [former Afghan President Hamid Karzai]

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https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/07/karzai-nato-failed-to-defeat-terrorism-in-afg...

With a moslem.

When he is disappointed, or when he fails to achieve his goals,
IT IS ALWAYS BECAUSE 'SOMEONE ELSE', PREVENTED HIM.

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CogitoErgoSum says

Jul 6, 2021 at 5:09 pm

The U.S. went into a country filled with vipers and made it a better place for the breeding of more vipers.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/07/karzai-nato-failed-to-defeat-terrorism-in-afghanistan#comment-2357359

TRUE

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gravenimage says

Jul 6, 2021 at 5:20 pm

Karzai: ‘NATO failed to defeat terrorism in Afghanistan’
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In other words, ‘NATO failed to defeat Islam in Afghanistan’.

Given that Afghanistan is statically 100% Muslim, this should have been a foregone conclusion.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/07/karzai-nato-failed-to-defeat-terrorism-in-afghanistan#comment-2357364

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saturnine says

Jul 6, 2021 at 10:10 pm

“… a failure because they did not do what they should have done”

Whenever the infidels foolishly try to improve the lot of Muslims but are thwarted by the religion, Muslims regularly claim that “it wasn’t done properly.”

The infidels were chided like this often during the Iraq fiasco.

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https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/07/karzai-nato-failed-to-defeat-terrorism-in-afghanistan#comment-2357424

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16142 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Afghanistan - Cowardistan Reply #9 - Jul 9^th, 2021 at 2:02pm The yanks are just getting the troops out along with their allies. They they should simply nuke the whole place into glass. It would rid the world of a good number of the cult of death And the women and children will be better off. NUKE EM.
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Reply #10 - Jul 9^th, 2021 at 2:49pm

Its not about Democracy, its not about Terrorism and its not about race, its about religion. Its all very well to call the Afghans cowards when the presence of the best militaries in the world could not protect their schools and hospitals from glassy-eyed religious fanatics that believe Allah has sent them to kill or maim those who don't agree with their interpretation of the Koran. The real problem is the contagion that has infected all of Islam. The West's failure will always be associated with our conferral of equal status on sneaky civilian-dressed assassins and honorable troops who stand up in uniform. The war against the Taliban was a success while the US supplied air support to the Northern Alliance, because as Afghans, the NA know how to fight an Afghan enemy, and it is not according to The Geneva Conventions. The failure can be attributed to GW Bush's desire to look good with American troops on the ground. He needed something, because 911 was his watch.

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Reply #11 - Jul 9^th, 2021 at 5:18pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 2:49pm:

Its not about Democracy, its not about Terrorism and its not about race, its about religion. Its all very well to call the Afghans cowards when the presence of the best militaries in the world could not protect their schools and hospitals from glassy-eyed religious fanatics that believe Allah has sent them to kill or maim those who don't agree with their interpretation of the Koran. The real problem is the contagion that has infected all of Islam. The West's failure will always be associated with our conferral of equal status on sneaky civilian-dressed assassins and honorable troops who stand up in uniform. The war against the Taliban was a success while the US supplied air support to the Northern Alliance, because as Afghans, the NA know how to fight an Afghan enemy, and it is not according to The Geneva Conventions. The failure can be attributed to GW Bush's desire to look good with American troops on the ground. He needed something, because 911 was his watch.

What a pathetic nonsense of a brainwashed liberal globalist fanatic.
It has nothing to do with religion. It is a clash of civilizations on a cultural, not a religious basis.
Western anti-civilization, in which arrogance is considered a virtue, wants to conquer others, because it believes that "the West is the best."
What are Australian ships currently doing in the Black Sea on Russian borders?
You maybe want to be a British collateral damage again, as in Gallipoli.

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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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Reply #13 - Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:34pm

athos wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 5:18pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 2:49pm:

Its not about Democracy, its not about Terrorism and its not about race, its about religion. Its all very well to call the Afghans cowards when the presence of the best militaries in the world could not protect their schools and hospitals from glassy-eyed religious fanatics that believe Allah has sent them to kill or maim those who don't agree with their interpretation of the Koran. The real problem is the contagion that has infected all of Islam. The West's failure will always be associated with our conferral of equal status on sneaky civilian-dressed assassins and honorable troops who stand up in uniform. The war against the Taliban was a success while the US supplied air support to the Northern Alliance, because as Afghans, the NA know how to fight an Afghan enemy, and it is not according to The Geneva Conventions. The failure can be attributed to GW Bush's desire to look good with American troops on the ground. He needed something, because 911 was his watch.

What a pathetic nonsense of a brainwashed liberal globalist fanatic.
It has nothing to do with religion. It is a clash of civilizations on a cultural, not a religious basis.
Western anti-civilization, in which arrogance is considered a virtue, wants to conquer others, because it believes that "the West is the best."
What are Australian ships currently doing in the Black Sea on Russian borders?
You maybe want to be a British collateral damage again, as in Gallipoli.

Everyone agrees that democracy is best. Except Muslims. Because of Islam.

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Reply #14 - Jul 9^th, 2021 at 6:47pm

Re Agatha.

The thing is that we cant really quantify Afghanistan as a country. It has not really being a country forever. Rather it is a very rural and remote collections of clans and warlords who views each other with suspicion over many centuries. As history have it, many tried to rule over the area, but none were particularly successful. And this is the way even before Islam arrives there.

The Taliban is backed by the the largest clan / group in that region, the Pushtans. So you can see, any government without its support, particularly one propped by an invader, will never going to last.

We went in to Afghanistan for an act of vengeance. We were not there for the people, not for the women, not for the children, certainly not for freedom. We had no clear defined goal.

This is an expected result.

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