aquascoot wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 7:36pm:


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Flu Kills about 2,500 a year.

The transmission rate of flu drops to a R0 of 0.2 in the summer from a R0 of about 1 in winter at its most contagious.

Coved has a R0 (rate of contagion) of about 2.5 for The original virus 3 for the European strain and the delta variant may be as high as 8 . This means that covid is a really big number of times more contagious.

A preventative rate of 60% which is effective against the flu I suspect would be about as effective as pissing in the wind against an R0 of 4+.

The other point to consider is the the r0 if the flu drops to something like 0.2 in the warm weather. Corona drops for the original virus from about r0 of 2.5 to something like r0 of 1.2 i.e when the flu goes away in the summer Corona in its mild form drops to be only substantially more contagious than the Flu at its most contagious.

This is the basis of Trumps claim that it would magically just go away when it gets warm and the very predictable reason that it just didn't.

If the delta version really has an r0 of 8 as some people are saying its summer drop would still be devastating as seems to be what is happening in the US where we see the largely un vaxed republican states in big trouble. Yes in the US in summer there are unvaxed states that have run out of ventilators.

1 person gives it to 8 , 8 give it to 64, 64 give it to 512, 512 to 4096 etc. You can see why this would blow straight through a 60% effective vaccine.

It's a bit like trumps fence where they put the fence up but corruptly diverted the money to pay for the gates. Pretty funny all this secure fence with gaps where the gates are meant to go yep it's 60% secure.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57431420

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 11:00pm:


well well,

skippy caught lying again


SINGAPORE - The Ministry of Health (MOH) will no longer disclose details of each new Covid-19 case detected in the community as the country moves towards a new phase of battling the pandemic, it said in a statement on Tuesday (June 29).

Information on individuals' ages and occupations, as well as the places they visited and the dates on which they tested positive, will not be provided.

skippy "spoke to a friend"

i provide an article.

people can judge for themselves your lies 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/moh-to-stop-giving-details-of-covi...

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 11:41pm:



aquascoot plans to teach his grandchildren some prespective.
he plans to get vaccinated (already has) and then teach them that living in fear is a destructive mode of being.

ever feel like the grandchildren have been cheated

Not at all bobby.

As I have said from day 1

This is a highly infectious respiratory virus
Many many people are going to catch it
Most of us will be fine
But we can help by taking individual responsibility
And getting vaccinated

Once we all do that
We need two except that this virus will be with us forever
And some people will die from it

But as all farmers realise
Death is inevitable
Death is natural
You do what you can but you just accept it
And you don't spend your entire life worrying about it

And what you definitely don't do is allow cowardly adults
To transfer their own personal fears
On to the younger generation

The younger generation are now the victims of catastrophic thinking about climate
About war with China
About running out of food and fuel
And now we are showing them ads of young people suffocating in hospital

Disgraceful stuff

Could you imagine our grandparents in 1942
Running ads on television terrifying children about the imminent arrival of the Japanese army
Your job as an adult is to take that anxiety on board
Deal with it on a personal level

And never ever ever ever ever pass it on to vulnerable young people
That is the exact opposite of what is happening at the moment

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 6:41am:



Bobby

You absolutely should have those things

I am fairly certain that had I caught the virus
I would have fought it off just fine
People were wetting themselves about the side effects of the vaccine
So I thought I would make a statement to people about not being bedwetters and get the damn thing
Add to that I do believe in science
Add to that there is absolutely no possiblilty this vaccine could possibly hurt anyone
I understand risk assessment
Two people dying from a vaccination amongst 4 million vaccines
Is not even worth reporting
In fact it should not have been reported

As a result of reporting that tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny number of clots
Literally millions of people will now not get vaccinated
And you will have thousands of deaths instead of a couple

The whole thing has been completely mismanaged

People should have just rolled along and got their vaccinations
And taken personal responsibility

Exactly what they did in Sweden

As DNA has quite rightly pointed out
We are going to face thousands of deaths next year and in subsequent years from this

The fine people of Sweden have learnt how to live with it and have minimal deaths
We have done nothing of the sort
In fact about 9 million people appear resentful and are not going to do the right thing no matter what
So now you are going to face many many more deaths as a result of the ineptitud off the message

Health is always a personal matter
It's on You to look after your health

It's not on Scott Morrison or Anastasia palashay
They're not your mummy and you're not a little baby with a temperature

People are adults and should assess the risk for themselves and act like god damn adults
And adults with a spine never ever frighten children
They shield and nurture children

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 10:33pm:



That is discussed at the end of the video -
a quote from George Carlin.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 9:29am:


I'm also impressed by his definition of minimal.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 7:18am:


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

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Wonder what his definition of minimal deaths will be for Australia?