rhino wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 11:31am:


I have read part of Ian Kershaw's book on Hitler. I have numerous books of WW2 and the Nazis. I was going to make the study of WW2 and German history a specialised subject that I would research the most. But, so far, I am more concerned with literature regarding other matters. I can always do a thorough psychological profile of Hitler and give you my impressions. But, as usual, you will probably claim it all "bs", even if I do the argument based on evidence.

rhino wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:26pm:

Yes... What did all the Germans think was happening after Kristallnacht? And then all the Jews... What? All went to the beach at the same till the war was done?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:30pm:


A lot of Jews were turned in to the SS by ordinary German people....They knew what they were doing!!!

From the early 30s the program of dehumanising the Jews began, by the start of the war it was complete, the German people not only knew but mostly abetted what happened. I can remember viewing a first hand account from an American GI who was one of those who had liberated the camps, he stated that as the German soldiers in charge of the camps had mostly ceased doing their jobs as the allies approached some prisoners in the camps had started to escape, the local villagers were quite calmly walking around executing these escaped inmates.

rhino wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:26pm:


I have listened to various videos on the internet of documentaries about Hitler and the concentration camps. But, that is not sufficient research. I have read about half of Kershaw's first book. WW2 was a topic of study for our high school history class 27 years ago. And Hitler has been a focal point for various historians and interpreters of varying backgrounds. I would be sure that 30 years of acknowledging Hitler as an evil person would have shaped how I feel about what he did for his country.

However, to answer your question, no I do not know much about the concentration camps the Nazis used to enslave and murder prisoners. I bet you do not, either. I have not even read "Schindler's Ark" by Thomas Keneally, which might give some idea of how things were in the camps.

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The Soviets discovered the camps and were shocked by what they saw. Not even the rest of the world today know about concentration camps of the Nazis, since it is not a subject of study for anyone outside a western background.

And whilst I can accept that people living nearby the camps might have known something about the horrors going on in the camps, I would not believe that many of them had a clear idea -- unless they worked inside the camps keeping some kind of functionality going.

There is no doubt that Jewish people were not liked by most of the German people. But, as far as Hitler was concerned, he wanted them gone from German lands. When I read up on a book about Hitler ordering the exterminating Jewish people, then I will concede that Hitler oversaw the genocide of Jews in camps.

rhino wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:47pm:

Yes... One instance known as the 'Mühlviertel rabbit hunt' (Mühlviertler Hasenjagd) when 500 emaciated Russian soldiers broke out of Mauthausen and were hunted down and executed by local civilians. Only 11 survived.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 3:00pm:


So, all those books and documentaries claiming that nobody unaffiliated with the Nazis knew of the concentration camps and their purpose until after the Soviets liberated them... they were just bullshitting us?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 3:05pm:


I would not admit anything wrong.