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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42179	Statue to be removed Jul 10^th, 2021 at 6:30pm Charlottesville to remove statue that sparked deadly white supremacy rally
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Reply #1 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 7:13pm

'Statue to be removed'

Our recent and ancient cultural history is to be 'negated', .....to be ERASED, from our collective social memory.

That is what neo-Marxists do, have always done.

So that no one will retain any ancient 'datum point' [in their memory], against which, to compare THE VALUE of current political realities.

Mind control.

Reinforcing the ['collective'] HIVE MIND.

Remove the option for the individual to make INFORMED choices, which will direct his own path, into his own future.

Again.....
Mind control.

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

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Proverbs 22:28
Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set.

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Reply #2 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 7:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 6:30pm:

Charlottesville to remove statue that sparked deadly white supremacy rally Cool

Charlottesville to remove statue that sparked deadly Coloured Supremacy Rally that caused death and destruction all around ...

The Good Gineral never owned a slave, and spent his years fighting to defend the rights of his State... dying shortly after the Old Grey Goose Was Killed...

Maybe some of these jerks on that council could consider fighting for the rights of their state as a whole, and not just their chosen groups.

They all need to be thrown on the street with nothing...

How much do they want for that statue? Would look great in my front yard...

How did this statue become 'a rallying point for White Supremacists' when it was, in reality, the rallying point for Sallow Supremacists and their running dogs?

It was the demand that it be torn down that caused the whole thing...... so guilt lies anywhere else but with those who sought to say NO.

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Reply #3 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 7:24pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 6:30pm:

Charlottesville to remove statue that sparked deadly white supremacy rally Cool

One day soon, LEFTIST legislators around the world will decide that they need to outlaw the possession of Holy Bible, as 'an evil 'instrument' which excites social division and which promotes social inequality and racism'.

Laugh.

Go on, laugh.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #4 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:04pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 7:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 6:30pm:

Charlottesville to remove statue that sparked deadly white supremacy rally Cool

One day soon, LEFTIST legislators around the world will decide that they need to outlaw the possession of Holy Bible, as 'an evil 'instrument' which excites social division and which promotes social inequality and racism'.

Laugh.

Go on, laugh.

Yes, that is definitely in their plans. Keep people ignorant, it is easier to convince them with lies that way!

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Reply #5 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:05pm

You all seem to be assuming this is some ancient monument. It isn't. It is less than 100 years old. "They were erected in the 1920s when Jim Crow laws were eroding the rights of Black citizens." They were erected to further oppress black people. Remember, the Confederacy lost the Civil War. They lost it fair and square. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #7 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:12pm

Read up on or watch a documentary on the Lee family... They owned slaves alright... But Robert, himself, was an armchair abolitionist... Knew it wasn't right but did not act against it... And he was an owner of a small number of slaves, but considered himself a good and kindly master.

He was the top pick to lead the union army. He was a pro-abolitionist and anti-secessionist but could not bring himself to take up arms against his fellow Virginians.

He would not have approved of a statue erected in his honour and would have been first in line to tear it down.

His whole backstory is easy to find.

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Reply #8 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:18pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:12pm:

Read up on or watch a documentary on the Lee family... They owned slaves alright... But Robert, himself, was an armchair abolitionist... Knew it wasn't right but did not act against it... And he was an owner of a small number of slaves, but considered himself a good and kindly master.

He was the top pick to lead the union army but could not bring himself to take up arms against his fellow Virginians.

His whole backstory is easy to find.

Does this cancel culture that is infecting the US apply to all slave owners or just the white ones?

Will the idiots from this cancel culture say anything about this slave owner who was white or will they accuse people who point this of islamophobia? Roll Eyes

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It was narrated from Anas, that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse, but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed:
"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.' until the end of the Verse.

https://sunnah.com/nasai:3959

The Islamic prophet owned and sold slaves he even had sex with his slaves against the wishes of his wives because the sky fairy called Allah said it was halal.

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Re: Statue to be removed
Reply #9 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:24pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:18pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:12pm:

Read up on or watch a documentary on the Lee family... They owned slaves alright... But Robert, himself, was an armchair abolitionist... Knew it wasn't right but did not act against it... And he was an owner of a small number of slaves, but considered himself a good and kindly master.

He was the top pick to lead the union army but could not bring himself to take up arms against his fellow Virginians.

His whole backstory is easy to find.

Does this cancel culture that is infecting the US apply to all slave owners or just the white ones?

As I added above, Lee, himself, would not have approved of a statue erected in his honour and would have been first in line to tear it down.

He considered the civil war to be the greatest tragedy in US history and never aggrandised his own role in the war. He dedicated himself to rebuilding the morale of the south but was never in his life regranted US citizenship.

He was lucky not to have been hanged as a traitor after the war. Had it not been for General Grant himself threatening to resign his commission from the US army if Lee was charged with treason, he would have likely been hanged.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58855 Here Gender:	Re: Statue to be removed Reply #10 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 11:10pm These statues will be moved to museums. Sounds like a good idea. Put them where they belong.
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Re: Statue to be removed
Reply #11 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 11:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 9:05pm:

You all seem to be assuming this is some ancient monument. It isn't. It is less than 100 years old. "They were erected in the 1920s when Jim Crow laws were eroding the rights of Black citizens." They were erected to further oppress black people. Remember, the Confederacy lost the Civil War. They lost it fair and square. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What has erecting a statue to a Civil War general got to do with 'Jim Crow laws'?

How exactly does a statue go about oppressing people?

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Statue to be removed Reply #12 - Jul 11^th, 2021 at 12:20am All statues are going to be replaced with George Floyd statues complete with black face, that should please everybody, no? We are gunna go a burnin and a lootin tonight, just ask Bob Marley.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106020 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Statue to be removed Reply #13 - Jul 11^th, 2021 at 6:38am What a terrible thing to do to remove the history of a place. It reminds me of the Taliban and ISIS destroying Buddhist statues.
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Reply #14 - Jul 11^th, 2021 at 8:48am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 6:38am:

What a terrible thing to do to remove the history of a place.

It reminds me of the Taliban and ISIS
destroying Buddhist statues.

'I think it's wiser not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavour to obliterate the marks of civil strife; to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered'.

Removing the statue of Robert E Lee is in no way the same as the destruction of buddhist statues.

This guy (as an American from the south) explains it best:

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