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Reply #135 - Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:44pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:13pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 5:57pm:

Aggravated burglary isnt robbery with violence, It basically means the person was on the premises when it was burgled (the media hypes this up as "home invasions") or the offender was armed on premises.

And when they bash the person on the premises to get what they want after they've answered the door.

The perpetrators knowing full well some one is home?

If armed with a weapon, 3 separate offences I can think of, 1. Armed robbery. 2 Aggravated burglary 3. Aggravated assault- number of different charges under this category.
Armed robbery being the most serious charge followed by aggravated assault (while armed with a weapon).
Most offenders in general get charged with multiple crimes at once.

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Reply #136 - Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:49pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:16pm:

So if there's a knock on the door, and I answer and some gang forces its way in, and I do not stop them - implying consent - that is not a home invasion?

Aggravated burglary because you are on premises, if they push past you or use threatening language then its assault as well. If any of them are carrying a weapon then its aggravated assault (other circumstances also), If they threaten you with a weapon in order to steal from you then its also armed robbery. Another charge common in these types of circumstances would be deprivation of liberty.

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Reply #137 - Jul 14^th, 2021 at 7:21pm

rhino wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:49pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:16pm:

So if there's a knock on the door, and I answer and some gang forces its way in, and I do not stop them - implying consent - that is not a home invasion?

Aggravated burglary because you are on premises, if they push past you or use threatening language then its assault as well. If any of them are carrying a weapon then its aggravated assault (other circumstances also), If they threaten you with a weapon in order to steal from you then its also armed robbery. Another charge common in these types of circumstances would be deprivation of liberty.

She was bashed not verballed.

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Reply #138 - Jul 14^th, 2021 at 7:43pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 7:21pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:49pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:16pm:

So if there's a knock on the door, and I answer and some gang forces its way in, and I do not stop them - implying consent - that is not a home invasion?

Aggravated burglary because you are on premises, if they push past you or use threatening language then its assault as well. If any of them are carrying a weapon then its aggravated assault (other circumstances also), If they threaten you with a weapon in order to steal from you then its also armed robbery. Another charge common in these types of circumstances would be deprivation of liberty.

She was bashed not verballed.

? Ok.

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Reply #139 - Jul 14^th, 2021 at 7:45pm

rhino wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:49pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:16pm:

So if there's a knock on the door, and I answer and some gang forces its way in, and I do not stop them - implying consent - that is not a home invasion?

Aggravated burglary because you are on premises, if they push past you or use threatening language then its assault as well. If any of them are carrying a weapon then its aggravated assault (other circumstances also), If they threaten you with a weapon in order to steal from you then its also armed robbery. Another charge common in these types of circumstances would be deprivation of liberty.

Who pays to clean up the blood and eviscera from their bellies being opened up?

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: I wonder what nationality they were? Reply #140 - Jul 14^th, 2021 at 8:10pm oooh,Valkies here to tell us all how tough he is.
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Reply #141 - Jul 14^th, 2021 at 8:21pm

rhino wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 8:10pm:

oooh,Valkies here to tell us all how tough he is.

Now now, perhaps Valkie just doesn't want to clean up the blood and eviscera from their bellies, have you thought of that?

Not all of us keep gloves and a shovel in the ute, you know. Not all of us have qualifications in forensic cleaning.

You?

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 85052 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: I wonder what nationality they were? Reply #142 - Jul 16^th, 2021 at 1:08am EnoonmaI
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Re: I wonder what nationality they were?
Reply #143 - Jul 16^th, 2021 at 1:11am

Valkie wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 7:45pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:49pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:16pm:

So if there's a knock on the door, and I answer and some gang forces its way in, and I do not stop them - implying consent - that is not a home invasion?

Aggravated burglary because you are on premises, if they push past you or use threatening language then its assault as well. If any of them are carrying a weapon then its aggravated assault (other circumstances also), If they threaten you with a weapon in order to steal from you then its also armed robbery. Another charge common in these types of circumstances would be deprivation of liberty.

Who pays to clean up the blood and eviscera from their bellies being opened up?

Opening their bellies is a part of Zulu culture...Duzzen Madda!

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Reply #144 - Jul 16^th, 2021 at 1:14am

rhino wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:49pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 6:16pm:

So if there's a knock on the door, and I answer and some gang forces its way in, and I do not stop them - implying consent - that is not a home invasion?

Aggravated burglary because you are on premises, if they push past you or use threatening language then its assault as well. If any of them are carrying a weapon then its aggravated assault (other circumstances also), If they threaten you with a weapon in order to steal from you then its also armed robbery. Another charge common in these types of circumstances would be deprivation of liberty.

Thank you - that is a great help when they have used those weapons.... I'm so relieved that the law protects my rights so well......

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16142 Central Coast Gender:	Re: I wonder what nationality they were? Reply #145 - Jul 16^th, 2021 at 8:10am rhino wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 8:10pm: oooh,Valkies here to tell us all how tough he is. Sad tiny man at it again. You use a butter knife because you are afraid of sharp edges?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35522 Gender:	Re: I wonder what nationality they were? Reply #146 - Jul 16^th, 2021 at 8:14am Thi has just gone beyond funny and has landed back in pathetic. It's not even able to be laughed at anymore. It's gone past that.
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25018 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: I wonder what nationality they were? Reply #147 - Jul 16^th, 2021 at 1:30pm Gnads wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 9:28am: Pissed again? People can actually have a tumble without being inebriated. That afternoon incident turned out to be a matter of I should have been paying more attention to where I was walking near a slippery concrete edge.
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Reply #148 - Jul 16^th, 2021 at 1:44pm

rhino wrote on Jul 14^th, 2021 at 10:39am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 11:30pm:

I could imagine rhino in a gun battle flipping through the legislation on what his rights are about whether to shoot back or not. And then he resolves that he has to get in touch with the feelings of the gunman and other such drivel.

You imagine, I dont. Thats the difference. And its primarily why you and people like Mothra are losers, you need to start accepting that some people know and have experienced things you havent and stop reacting emotionally when confronted with knowledge you havent experienced, you wont progress in life till you do.

You can't imagine flipping through the legislation on what the gunman's rights are in terms of your capacity to shoot back? The whole side of my argument is in the context of "heat of the moment" situations. If someone was trying to do me harm, I would flee the situation, as my first option.

And you are calling mothra and myself losers for telling people like you off for your arrogance. I have actually been through my pain and suffering in a week than you have had in your entire life. I do not know what your life has been like. But I would bet that the entire suffering you have experienced would only amount to less than a week's worth of what I have gone through. And you calling me a loser seems to show me that you have not been anywhere near what I have been through, or understood that I have resolved most of the issues to allow me the opportunity to post on ozpolitics. Heck, if I did try the "Netflix and junk food" thing, I probably would not be able to do that, if I was still a "loser".

The cards are laid down here, rhino. You obviously have no idea about my life, as I do not know much about yours. I have lived through more drama and problems in my 20s and 30s than you could ever consider acceptable in your life. And you have enough spare time in your life to post 6 posts a day and hit the gym for hours on end after doing 50+ hours a week at work. You work hard, rhino. But, your life is not difficult.

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Reply #149 - Jul 16^th, 2021 at 1:48pm

mothra wrote on Jul 16^th, 2021 at 8:14am:

Thi has just gone beyond funny and has landed back in pathetic. It's not even able to be laughed at anymore.

It's gone past that.

Last night, I listened to a police scanner of some lady's car being stolen by a bunch of youths from Mount Morgan and driven around Gracemere. The youths did an evade of a police intercept. Police had to do a chase throughout the town before the car was dumped. The victim was a lady was in her 70s.

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