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Reply #165 - Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:56pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:44pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:25pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:20pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:18pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:15pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:10pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 10:58pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 10:46pm:
It's interesting that some who claims they're not anti-vaccination, they are just pro-choice, keep copying and pasting anti-vax content over and over.


It's even more interesting when people like yourself haven't worked out that the information I've copied and pasted is straight from the freaking Pfizer et al vaccine website itself!

You can't be THIS ignorant....can you?

Then there's cetyl alcohol, stearyl alcohol, carnauba wax, xanthan gum, gelatin, stearic acid, sodium benzoate, 1,3-dimethylol-5,5-dimethyl (DMDM) hydantoin, tetrasodium EDTA, methylisothiazolinone, potassium sorbate, sorbic acid, dehydroacetic acid, benzyl alcohol, sodium lauryl sulfate, sodium laureth sulfate, hexachlorophene, phthalates...

In shampoo.

Work into the hair thoroughly, daily; allow to sit for 2 minutes then rinse.


Whilst laughing about Sad Kangaroo openly accusing a major vaccine manufacturer's website of being anti vaxx .....I'm now laughing at another fool who's mind seriously believes that topical creams and lotions is exactly the same as injecting them into your body.

There's gotta be someone left on OzPol with a bit of sanity.  Shocked Shocked


So that's how it's going to be?


What do you mean by that?

You sound like you think we've been in some long term relationship and we're about to split up 😂


No, it's more about us rarely crossing paths until these past few days and me giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're a legitimate poster.

You've pretty much removed all doubt at this point, but your next reply will be telling.


Dear Lord! I've only been here for 11 years. Sure I took a break (over the past 2 years) but that was because I was fatigued by the trolling and flaming on OzPol AND Covid19 came into our lives and threw everything into the air!

I am married with kids and as such our entire family was affected in some way shape or form. It's been a rough ride for our family esp our extended family. Everyone in Australia has had a rough trot really. As to me being legitimate I am me and I only post with 1 id. My id reflects my true name in part. I'm known as either Lisa or Elisa. Would you like to know my shoe size? Would that help you in assessing my legitimacy lol?


The legitimacy is in terms of debate, not if you have socks or not.

You don't want to articulate your position after many polite requests and it's exhaused any respect I had for you, simply by default since as I said our paths have not really crossed all these years.

But you've at least cleared that up.
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Re: Mandatory Vaccination And Medical Exemptions
Reply #166 - Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:58pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:51pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 10:46pm:
It's interesting that some who claims they're not anti-vaccination, they are just pro-choice, keep copying and pasting anti-vax content over and over.


That's your comment Sad Kangaroo.

And it was made immediately in response to me copying and pasting 2 paragraphs from a vaccine manufacturer's website page.

Give it up! You've been sprung!



Ah yes, but where did I say I was referring to your post or the information you copied from the vaccine manufacturers?

I didn't. Poor petal, I think you're projecting you own insecurities in your arguments.

That's on you love.
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Re: Mandatory Vaccination And Medical Exemptions
Reply #167 - Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:59pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:12pm:
You'd best be getting them jabs, old girl... At your age you'll be a statistic.


Actually my choice is not your call.

And for your information my teenage kids have referred to me as "the old lady" since the day I turned 40.

I've been old for 10 years now.  Huh

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Re: Mandatory Vaccination And Medical Exemptions
Reply #168 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 12:02am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:58pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:51pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 10:46pm:
It's interesting that some who claims they're not anti-vaccination, they are just pro-choice, keep copying and pasting anti-vax content over and over.


That's your comment Sad Kangaroo.

And it was made immediately in response to me copying and pasting 2 paragraphs from a vaccine manufacturer's website page.

Give it up! You've been sprung!



Ah yes, but where did I say I was referring to your post or the information you copied from the vaccine manufacturers?

I didn't. Poor petal, I think you're projecting you own insecurities in your arguments.

That's on you love.


You made the silly comment straight after I posted the information ffs! And it took you 30 minutes to think of a come back to cover your silly remark!

Seriously give up! You're seriously behaving like one of my kids. Back when he was 9 yrs old!
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Re: Mandatory Vaccination And Medical Exemptions
Reply #169 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 12:04am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:59pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:12pm:
You'd best be getting them jabs, old girl... At your age you'll be a statistic.


Actually my choice is not your call.

And for your information my teenage kids have referred to me as "the old lady" the day I turned 40.

I've been old for 10 years now.  Huh


Good on you, old girl.

If you don't get the jab and rona beats you, have yourself buried... Carbon sequestration and all... Every bit helps.

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Reply #170 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 12:06am
 
The truth is you're just avoiding having to articulate your position and alternative since you're pro-choice bunt anti consequences of choice.
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Re: Mandatory Vaccination And Medical Exemptions
Reply #171 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 12:10am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:56pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:44pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:25pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:20pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:18pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:15pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:10pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 10:58pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 10:46pm:
It's interesting that some who claims they're not anti-vaccination, they are just pro-choice, keep copying and pasting anti-vax content over and over.


It's even more interesting when people like yourself haven't worked out that the information I've copied and pasted is straight from the freaking Pfizer et al vaccine website itself!

You can't be THIS ignorant....can you?

Then there's cetyl alcohol, stearyl alcohol, carnauba wax, xanthan gum, gelatin, stearic acid, sodium benzoate, 1,3-dimethylol-5,5-dimethyl (DMDM) hydantoin, tetrasodium EDTA, methylisothiazolinone, potassium sorbate, sorbic acid, dehydroacetic acid, benzyl alcohol, sodium lauryl sulfate, sodium laureth sulfate, hexachlorophene, phthalates...

In shampoo.

Work into the hair thoroughly, daily; allow to sit for 2 minutes then rinse.


Whilst laughing about Sad Kangaroo openly accusing a major vaccine manufacturer's website of being anti vaxx .....I'm now laughing at another fool who's mind seriously believes that topical creams and lotions is exactly the same as injecting them into your body.

There's gotta be someone left on OzPol with a bit of sanity.  Shocked Shocked


So that's how it's going to be?


What do you mean by that?

You sound like you think we've been in some long term relationship and we're about to split up 😂


No, it's more about us rarely crossing paths until these past few days and me giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're a legitimate poster.

You've pretty much removed all doubt at this point, but your next reply will be telling.


Dear Lord! I've only been here for 11 years. Sure I took a break (over the past 2 years) but that was because I was fatigued by the trolling and flaming on OzPol AND Covid19 came into our lives and threw everything into the air!

I am married with kids and as such our entire family was affected in some way shape or form. It's been a rough ride for our family esp our extended family. Everyone in Australia has had a rough trot really. As to me being legitimate I am me and I only post with 1 id. My id reflects my true name in part. I'm known as either Lisa or Elisa. Would you like to know my shoe size? Would that help you in assessing my legitimacy lol?


The legitimacy is in terms of debate, not if you have socks or not.

You don't want to articulate your position after many polite requests and it's exhaused any respect I had for you, simply by default since as I said our paths have not really crossed all these years.

But you've at least cleared that up.


Firstly your level of debate is very wanting. You consistently fail to understand or accept information given to you by others who have been kind enough to provide you with links and/or copy and pasted paragraphs.

Secondly you make unfounded and ridiculous assertions as regards legitimacy on a forum where I've been a member far longer than you have.

Thirdly you presume that this is some type of quasi job interview moment for you and I'm your applicant. Well guess what buddy. I'm not.

Fourthly it matters not what you think about my gender, my stance wrt vaccines in general or Covid19 vaccines etc. You play the the ball not the player.

You got that? Good.
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Re: Mandatory Vaccination And Medical Exemptions
Reply #172 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 7:34am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 22nd, 2021 at 12:10am:
You got that? Good.


Yep, I understand your game, have fun Smiley
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Re: Mandatory Vaccination And Medical Exemptions
Reply #173 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 7:37am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 21st, 2021 at 11:59pm:
Actually my choice is not your call.




Actually your choice is my call when it comes to public/personal safety, dumbass.
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Reply #174 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 8:02am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:12pm:
folic acid and soy are mandated in our bread. fluoride is mandated in our water

Spot


Funny that ey

these anti vax passports & having the jab whiners probably all live in cities where the public water supply is fluoridated with highly toxic contaminated industrial waste .... & they drink it.

mandated as a spurious dental health measure.
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Reply #175 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 12:34pm
 
I always find it quite hilarious when the lower IQ individuals compare apples with oranges and wonder why those with a few brains keep pointing out the differences. It's almost like child level cognitive ability.
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Reply #176 - Oct 6th, 2021 at 6:10pm
 
The Fair Work Commission says that mandating vaccination by employers is not on:


[144] The science is clear that those who have recovered from COVID have at least the same level of protection from COVID as a person who has been vaccinated. There can be absolutely no legitimate basis, then, for mandating vaccination for this group of people.

[145] In short, there is no justifiable basis for employers to mandate COVID vaccinations to meet their health and safety obligations when other options are available to appropriately manage the risk.

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Final comments

[179] Research in the context of COVID-19 has shown that many who are ‘vaccine-hesitant’ are well educated, work in the health care industry and have questions about how effective the vaccines are in stopping transmission, whether they are safe to take during pregnancy, or if they affect fertility. 37 A far safer and more democratic approach to addressing vaccine hesitancy, and therefore increasing voluntary vaccination uptake, lies in better education, addressing specific and often legitimate concerns that people may hold, and promoting genuine informed consent. It does not lie in censoring differing opinions or removing rights and civil liberties that are fundamental in a democratic nation. It certainly does not lie in the use of highly coercive, undemocratic and unethical mandates.

[180] The statements by politicians that those who are not vaccinated are a threat to public health and should be “locked out of society” and denied the ability to work are not measures to protect public health. They are not about public health and not justified because they do not address the actual risk of COVID. These measures can only be about punishing those who choose not to be vaccinated. If the purpose of the PHOs is genuinely to reduce the spread of COVID, there is no basis for locking out people who do not have COVID, which is easily established by a rapid antigen test. Conversely, a vaccinated person who contracts COVID should be required to isolate until such time as they have recovered.

[181] Blanket rules, such as mandating vaccinations for everyone across a whole profession or industry regardless of the actual risk, fail the tests of proportionality, necessity and reasonableness. It is more than the absolute minimum necessary to combat the crisis and cannot be justified on health grounds. It is a lazy and fundamentally flawed approach to risk management and should be soundly rejected by courts when challenged.


[182] All Australians should vigorously oppose the introduction of a system of medical apartheid and segregation in Australia. It is an abhorrent concept and is morally and ethically wrong, and the anthesis of our democratic way of life and everything we value.

[183] Australians should also vigorously oppose the ongoing censorship of any views that question the current policies regarding COVID. Science is no longer science if it a person is not allowed to question it.


[184] Finally, all Australians, including those who hold or are suspected of holding “anti-vaccination sentiments”, are entitled to the protection of our laws, including the protections afforded by the Fair Work Act. In this regard, one can only hope that the Majority Decision is recognised as an anomaly and not followed by others.

https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/decisionssigned/html/2021fwcfb6015.htm



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