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Reply #45 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 7:15am
 
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:39pm:
What does concern me however is the growing calls to effectively force people to have their bodies injected with mandated substances by denying them rights to areas of society unless they agree to be jabbed. I really feel this is a slippery slope for society. What might the next mandated substances be?




You say you're pro vax, but then churn out this rubbish? Whos actually calling to vaccinate everyone.


The people without a medically valid reason not to take the vaccination yet refuse to are usually the same crowd who will say to people who aren't white-skinned, even if they were born here, "If you don't like it, leave".

Well...

Now it's their turn.  If they don't like it, leave.
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Reply #46 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 3:02pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 26th, 2021 at 3:42am:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:03pm:
goosecat wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:42pm:
So any form of Vaccination passport legislation/regulation would need to include a medical exemption section?


Correct. There are people who can't take vaccines for genuine health reasons

thats also why herd immunity is so important, to protect those who can't take the vaccine and because no vaccine is 100% effective


Theres no herd immunity if theres no immunity

Spot



Or, indeed, if there's no herd. Tongue Tongue
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Reply #47 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 11:16pm
 

Or….The immunised herd seem to end up in hospital with covid …

I know… maybe symptoms are not as bad as without the vax right?
But then how come it seems the vaccine gives these people COVID?
And they are in hospital? Does that sound like it’s mild?
Or are just some people not so resilient?
Blood types maybe?
Surely not one size fits all?

So confusing.
Even in the Uk, 40% of single and double vaccinated are getting covid.
Looking into a crystal ball here but…That’s what we might be expected to see in our news in the future when 60-80% are vaccinated here in Oz?
Once our shores open up and we begin travel?

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Reply #48 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 11:45am
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9839677/Coronavirus-Australia-Scott-Mor...


EXCLUSIVE: Bombshell leaked audio captures Scott Morrison saying 'the time will come' when only the fully-vaccinated may be allowed into bars and restaurants while those who refuse the jab stay locked down - but major changes are needed first


    In audio obtained exclusively by Daily Mail Australia, the PM discussed lockdown
    Agreed with a proposal of cafes and pubs opening only to vaccinated patrons
    Said idea can be looked at when more of Australia's population are fully jabbed
    Will 'very soon' start setting vaccination targets on how to get to the next level

By Kylie Stevens For Daily Mail Australia

Published: 02:18 AEST, 30 July 2021 | Updated: 08:23 AEST, 30 July 2021
   
The time will arrive when Australians fully vaccinated against coronavirus will enjoy more freedoms than their anti-jab counterparts, Scott Morrison has revealed.

The Prime Minister hinted at bringing in restrictions for Australians who refuse to get the vaccine, keeping them out of venues such as pubs and restaurants during a conference call with constituents from the Sutherland Shire on Thursday night.

In audio obtained by Daily Mail Australia, voters from the Cook electorate in Sydney's south grilled their federal MP on a host of pandemic topics from the country's bungled vaccine rollout to more support for businesses crippled by a fresh horror wave of the virus in New South Wales.

One fully-vaccinated constituent called Steve from Cronulla said he was frustrated that he was in lockdown despite answering the call to get vaccinated many months ago.

He said more Australians would get the jab if support was given to businesses such as cafes, restaurants, pubs and clubs by allowing them to open to fully-vaccinated patrons only.

In a remarkably candid answer, Mr Morrison agreed the proposal should be looked at once more of Australia's population is vaccinated and the worst of the current NSW outbreak is over.
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Reply #49 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 11:48am
 
Given the source and the subject, I don't believe it.

But I hope it's true.
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Reply #50 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 11:49am
 
So for all you anti-vaxers:

you'll have to get it or you won't be able to function in society.
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Reply #51 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 12:49pm
 
Sophia wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 11:16pm:
But then how come it seems the vaccine gives these people COVID?
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJG8UPLy/




WTF are you talking about, there is literally no way for Pfizer or AZ to give you covid, because the entire COVID virus is not in the vaccine.


You know the whole depressing thing about this last 18 months as a scientist, is how complete numpties with no education in being scientists keep wanking on about science.
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Reply #52 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 12:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 11:49am:
So for all you anti-vaxers:

you'll have to get it or you won't be able to function in society.

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They barely do anyway, so what difference would it make.
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Reply #53 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 1:05pm
 
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:39pm:
What does concern me however is the growing calls to effectively force people to have their bodies injected with mandated substances by denying them rights to areas of society unless they agree to be jabbed. I really feel this is a slippery slope for society. What might the next mandated substances be?


That is what really angered me, reading the article yesterday. I went and got a ticket to go to the Pilbeam Theatre this weekend. But, having read previous that there were calls for banning unvaccinated people entering dramatic theatres, I felt a little irritable and was being skeptical when purchasing a ticket. The box office attendant told me that masks were not mandatory. But I was going to a performance on the last day and least attended performance.

Cinemas and theatres were struggling last year to get people back into attendance. If you are calling for people to be vaccinated against coronavirus, then you are seriously not considering the possibility that those with the virus being symptomatic are not going to attend the venues. They will stay home and see a doctor, in this eventuality. And those unsymptomatic will not be a problem to those around them who are vaccinated.

Perhaps the thinking behind the calls is just those echoing unvaccinated school children supposedly not being allowed to attend school. It is for their protection, not the vaccinated.
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Reply #54 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 1:07pm
 
Sophia wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 11:16pm:
Or….The immunised herd seem to end up in hospital with covid …

I know… maybe symptoms are not as bad as without the vax right?
But then how come it seems the vaccine gives these people COVID?
And they are in hospital? Does that sound like it’s mild?
Or are just some people not so resilient?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJG8UPLy/


It's fake news, Lols.

Please don't rely on on ridiculous kids' social media sites for reliable news.

No, hospitalised COVID-19 patients in NSW aren’t all vaccinated

Dr McAnulty misspoke when he initially said all but one of the 43 individuals in ICUs in NSW due to COVID-19 were fully vaccinated. He corrected his mistake later in the same press conference, saying all of the patients were unvaccinated except for one who was partially vaccinated.

The post also incorrectly attributes the vaccination figures provided by Dr McAnulty to all 141 hospitalised individuals, however Dr McAnulty was talking about the vaccination status of the 43 people in ICUs.
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Re: Mandatory Vaccination And Medical Exemptions
Reply #55 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 3:13pm
 
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 12:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 11:49am:
So for all you anti-vaxers:

you'll have to get it or you won't be able to function in society.

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They barely do anyway, so what difference would it make.


They'll be segregated from us normies.

I'm looking forward to it.
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Reply #56 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 4:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 11:45am:
The time will arrive when Australians fully vaccinated against coronavirus will enjoy more freedoms than their anti-jab counterparts, Scott Morrison has revealed.

The Prime Minister hinted at bringing in restrictions for Australians who refuse to get the vaccine, keeping them out of venues such as pubs and restaurants .



Great entertainment - Nazi Germany comes to Australia. Where is Reichfuehrer Morrison going to built the concentration camps?
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Reply #57 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 9:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 1:07pm:
Sophia wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 11:16pm:
Or….The immunised herd seem to end up in hospital with covid …

I know… maybe symptoms are not as bad as without the vax right?
But then how come it seems the vaccine gives these people COVID?
And they are in hospital? Does that sound like it’s mild?
Or are just some people not so resilient?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJG8UPLy/


It's fake news, Lols.

Please don't rely on on ridiculous kids' social media sites for reliable news.

No, hospitalised COVID-19 patients in NSW aren’t all vaccinated

Dr McAnulty misspoke when he initially said all but one of the 43 individuals in ICUs in NSW due to COVID-19 were fully vaccinated. He corrected his mistake later in the same press conference, saying all of the patients were unvaccinated except for one who was partially vaccinated.

The post also incorrectly attributes the vaccination figures provided by Dr McAnulty to all 141 hospitalised individuals, however Dr McAnulty was talking about the vaccination status of the 43 people in ICUs.



I see. Thank you for clarifying that. So it’s an error of speech that had been rectified soon after but taken out of context elsewhere as misinformation.
I’m not impressed with any media platform that will do that.

And it does prove beneficial to do fact checking.
At least you were not belittling about it.

PS. F k you DILLermand  Wink


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Reply #58 - Jul 31st, 2021 at 5:32am
 
everyone should get vaxxed. no doubt

if you are scared of the vax, your level of fear is truly pathetic.

BUT

heres what i see happening (and why you cant outrun your destiny).

we will get 70 % vaxxed.

the delta will run about in the unvaxxed and we know from the UK that vaxxed people are catching it as well (just not getting very sick).


BUT


you will then have enormous numbers of vaxxed people carrying delta and , according to the evolutionary blowtorch i love, this WILL SELECT FOR DELTA THAT IS NOT AFFECTED BY THE VAX .

in other words, this scenariom is going to make vaccines not very useful in a short period of time.

so , i wouldnt be too confident that this all ends this year.

it wont.

and i think we have years to decades of just having to accept many covid admissions to hospitals and many deaths.

the way out is to teach personal risk assessment and personal responsibility for weight health distancing hygiene.

the way out is NOT to be little babies who expect mummy gladys and daddy scott to keep you safe.  (about the only word in their vocabulary nowadays  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes)

they cant

its on YOU
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Reply #59 - Jul 31st, 2021 at 5:40am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 31st, 2021 at 5:32am:
everyone should get vaxxed. no doubt

if you are scared of the vax, your level of fear is truly pathetic.

BUT

heres what i see happening (and why you cant outrun your destiny).

we will get 70 % vaxxed.

the delta will run about in the unvaxxed and we know from the UK that vaxxed people are catching it as well (just not getting very sick).


BUT


you will then have enormous numbers of vaxxed people carrying delta and , according to the evolutionary blowtorch i love, this WILL SELECT FOR DELTA THAT IS NOT AFFECTED BY THE VAX .

in other words, this scenariom is going to make vaccines not very useful in a short period of time.

so , i wouldnt be too confident that this all ends this year.



I don't think there's anyone silly enough to think this will end this year.

The bogans won't be going back to Bali to get drunk on cheap beer in 2022 either, that's for sure.



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