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Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:32pm
 
As the world slowly grinds towards coerced/mandatory vaccinations, I thought it relevant to have some discussion on the small percentage of the population for whom such vaccinations are genuinely medically dangerous.
Both myself and my daughter have written vaccination "exemptions" from doctors stating it is medically dangerous for us to have any vaccinations at all. There is a family history unfortunately that included rare blood clotting reaction to vaccination that caused my daughter to have a stroke and ordered Health department isolation for family after "full blown" development of Measles after Vaccination for other family members. Basically our immune systems seem to have very unpredictable responses.
Before anyone jumps to conclusions I should add that I am Pro vaccination and we had our daughter vaccinated knowing there was some risk, a decision I will never get over.
I am well aware of vaccinations role through history and now. What does concern me however is the growing calls to effectively force people to have their bodies injected with mandated substances by denying them rights to areas of society unless they agree to be jabbed. I really feel this is a slippery slope for society. What might the next mandated/coerced substances be?
How do people think these individuals for whom it is genuinely dangerous can be accommodated, assuming the world continues further down a coerced/mandated path?
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Reply #1 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:39pm
 
What does concern me however is the growing calls to effectively force people to have their bodies injected with mandated substances by denying them rights to areas of society unless they agree to be jabbed. I really feel this is a slippery slope for society. What might the next mandated substances be?




You say you're pro vax, but then churn out this rubbish? Whos actually calling to vaccinate everyone.
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Reply #2 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm
 
It is already happening, no need to be aggressive or imbecilic.
Vaccination passports for travel, demands for vaccinations for particular employees and in France laws being developed to enforce Vaccination. It is coming and only those incapable of genuine analysis can't see it.
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Reply #3 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:51pm
 
goosecat wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:50pm:
It is already happening, no need to be aggressive or imbecilic.
Vaccination passports for travel, demands for vaccinations for particular employees and in France laws being developed to enforce Vaccination. It is coming and only those incapable of genuine analysis can't see it.




Vaccination passports aren't mandatory vaccination. The French laws aren't about enforcing vaccinations.
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Reply #4 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:51pm
 
Vaccinations for p[articular employees are in high risk environs.
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Reply #5 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:57pm
 
My guess is that vaccination "passports" will not hold up if challenged - Human Rights Council (UNHRC) and all that.  Wink
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Reply #6 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:12pm
 
folic acid and soy are mandated in our bread. fluoride is mandated in our water

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Reply #7 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:24pm
 
Vaccinations have been mandatory for a long time now. Children attending pre-school, medical staff, people traveling overseas - all must meet certain vaccination requirements.  Nothing new here.

This pandemic is an unprecedented event and requires an unprecedented solution. Unfortunately the tinfoil hat mob and other social media 'experts', all with their own axe to grind, have published so much misinformation that what should be a straightforward, no-brainer vaccination process has become an uphill battle.

The government has underestimated the power of social media and the stupidity of too many people.  I will certainly be happy to have a vaccination passport ( in fact I have had one for decades) if it will free me from the restrictions the anti-vax idiots will bring upon themselves.  Roll Eyes

And I do understand that there are some people who cannot be vaccinated for well documented medical reasons.
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Reply #8 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:29pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:12pm:
folic acid and soy are mandated in our bread. fluoride is mandated in our water

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Yeah I get that but as someone with immune issues I can buy organic or non wheat bread and filter out Fluoride for example. Again please read the OP and note I'm not anti vaccine.
I'm genuinely interested in how those for whom it is genuinely dangerous might navigate the non-vaccinated paradigm.
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Reply #9 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:33pm
 
goosecat wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:29pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:12pm:
folic acid and soy are mandated in our bread. fluoride is mandated in our water

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Yeah I get that but as someone with immune issues I can buy organic or non wheat bread and filter out Fluoride for example. Again please read the OP and note I'm not anti vaccine.
I'm genuinely interested in how those for whom it is genuinely dangerous might navigate the non-vaccinated paradigm.





BY stating that, we already have exemptions for vaccinations based on medical history.
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Reply #10 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:37pm
 
What does concern me however is the growing calls to effectively force people to have their bodies injected with mandated substances by denying them rights to areas of society unless they agree to be jabbed.



The main problem I have is what about the rights of people in those areas.
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Reply #11 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:42pm
 
So any form of Vaccination passport legislation/regulation would need to include a medical exemption section?
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Reply #12 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:43pm
 
goosecat wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:42pm:
So any form of Vaccination passport legislation/regulation would need to include a medical exemption section?




You'd have to assume that, but then you as a non vaccinated person would have to accept the risk. E.g. I've been to Timor Leste and many of the people I went with didn't get vaccinated for rabies. I did. But those people accepted the risk.
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Reply #13 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:46pm
 
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:37pm:
What does concern me however is the growing calls to effectively force people to have their bodies injected with mandated substances by denying them rights to areas of society unless they agree to be jabbed.



The main problem I have is what about the rights of people in those areas.

Fair point, but aren't they protected by their own vaccination? I'm just wondering how my family and I are supposed to get around in this new order. It's not an easy one I know.
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Reply #14 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:51pm
 
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:43pm:
goosecat wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 1:42pm:
So any form of Vaccination passport legislation/regulation would need to include a medical exemption section?




You'd have to assume that, but then you as a non vaccinated person would have to accept the risk. E.g. I've been to Timor Leste and many of the people I went with didn't get vaccinated for rabies. I did. But those people accepted the risk.

Fair enough. There's no easy answer as doctors have said they'd dread me getting Corona-virus "naturally" as well, no one really knows what my body would do. I'm not alone however, there are people who's immune systems have been destroyed through "Chemo" and radiation treatment for cancer etc for whom similar issues arise.
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