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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Except food, bldg materials, Oz manufactures dying Reply #30 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:38pm Gordon wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:19pm: Rhino..... https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/getting-out-of-our-defensive-crouch-developing... Afghanistan was very asymmetric. Australia ran.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48867 At my desk.	Re: Except food, bldg materials, Oz manufactures dying Reply #31 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:43pm We settled in for about 2 decades LTYC. What planet do you live on?
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Reply #32 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:43pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:19pm:

Rhino.....

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/getting-out-of-our-defensive-crouch-developing...

Totally agree with the author, we need to get out of the "defensive crouch" and understand we do have leverage and start to manipulate it. A billion and a half people to feed is not an advantage, its a liability.

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Reply #33 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:48pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:35pm:

I will have to disabuse several posters of their toxic dogma and ignorance.

Untrue: "we only import food products we don't grow". Australia imports food that is cheaper than Australian products. This is growing every year as Australian-grown food prices are rising faster than inflation.

Among US$ 64+ billion of food product exports in 2019, China exports US$ 600+ million of food products to Australia and US$ 3.3 Billion to the USA.

https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/LTST/TradeFlow/Exp...

"Chinese exports of agri-food commodities amounted to USD 64.83 billion in 2019. It increased by 85% in comparison to 2005. The share of China in global agri-food exports was equal to 4.1% The volume of exports amounted to 45.13 million tons and increased by 34% in comparison to 2005."

Lol, you idiot. Yes, China exported 600 million of food to Australia, we exported

$11.9Billion of food to China .

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food exports to China

https://www.exportfinance.gov.au/media/6424/export-finance-growing-australlias-f...

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Except food, bldg materials, Oz manufactures dying Reply #34 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:48pm ...
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17436 Gender:	Re: Except food, bldg materials, Oz manufactures dying Reply #35 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:49pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:35pm: Among US$ 64+ billion of food product exports in 2019, China exports US$ 600+ million of food products to Australia and US$ 3.3 Billion to the USA. True. However Australia's food exports to China? $2 billion. From your source.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Except food, bldg materials, Oz manufactures dying Reply #36 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:49pm 11.9 billion.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17436 Gender:	Re: Except food, bldg materials, Oz manufactures dying Reply #37 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:51pm I used the same data source as LYTC. Apples to apples.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Except food, bldg materials, Oz manufactures dying Reply #38 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:59pm Im sorry, I only used official government trade sources and statistics. Must tell the government they got it wrong and overestimated our food trade with China by 9 billion dollars. You idiot.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Except food, bldg materials, Oz manufactures dying Reply #39 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 7:00pm Dont any of you idiots check your facts? seriously.
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Reply #40 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 7:03pm

rhino wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:43pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:19pm:

Rhino.....

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/getting-out-of-our-defensive-crouch-developing...

Totally agree with the author, we need to get out of the "defensive crouch" and understand we do have leverage and start to manipulate it. A billion and a half people to feed is not an advantage, its a liability.

Funny, when people have been screaming to stop Chinese investment in Australia, I always thought the exact opposite, provided they don't assist espionage.

Kilcullen is someone you need to be following.

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Reply #41 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 7:38pm

rhino wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:35pm:

I will have to disabuse several posters of their toxic dogma and ignorance.

Untrue: "we only import food products we don't grow". Australia imports food that is cheaper than Australian products. This is growing every year as Australian-grown food prices are rising faster than inflation.

Among US$ 64+ billion of food product exports in 2019, China exports US$ 600+ million of food products to Australia and US$ 3.3 Billion to the USA.

https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/LTST/TradeFlow/Exp...

"Chinese exports of agri-food commodities amounted to USD 64.83 billion in 2019. It increased by 85% in comparison to 2005. The share of China in global agri-food exports was equal to 4.1% The volume of exports amounted to 45.13 million tons and increased by 34% in comparison to 2005."

Lol, you idiot. Yes, China exported 600 million of food to Australia, we exported

$11.9Billion of food to China .

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$11.9b
food exports to China

https://www.exportfinance.gov.au/media/6424/export-finance-growing-australlias-f...

You horned dolt.

Chinese consume ~USD 9 per capita of Australian food whereas Australians consume ~USD 24 per capita of Chinese food.

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Re: Except food, bldg materials, Oz manufactures dying
Reply #42 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 8:02pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 7:38pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:35pm:

I will have to disabuse several posters of their toxic dogma and ignorance.

Untrue: "we only import food products we don't grow". Australia imports food that is cheaper than Australian products. This is growing every year as Australian-grown food prices are rising faster than inflation.

Among US$ 64+ billion of food product exports in 2019, China exports US$ 600+ million of food products to Australia and US$ 3.3 Billion to the USA.

https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/LTST/TradeFlow/Exp...

"Chinese exports of agri-food commodities amounted to USD 64.83 billion in 2019. It increased by 85% in comparison to 2005. The share of China in global agri-food exports was equal to 4.1% The volume of exports amounted to 45.13 million tons and increased by 34% in comparison to 2005."

Lol, you idiot. Yes, China exported 600 million of food to Australia, we exported

$11.9Billion of food to China .

Quote:

$11.9b
food exports to China

https://www.exportfinance.gov.au/media/6424/export-finance-growing-australlias-f...

You horned dolt.

Chinese consume ~USD 9 per capita of Australian food whereas Australians consume ~USD 24 per capita of Chinese food.

Ah, per capita now? Can we have dollar per capita, 25 million vs billions? Who would starve whom?

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Reply #43 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 8:19pm

rhino wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 7:00pm:

Dont any of you idiots check your facts?

Yeah. it seems to depend on what is or is not included in Food exports.

https://www.agriculture.gov.au/abares/research-topics/agricultural-outlook/data#...

Rural commodities - food xlsxTable 9.4 says $8 billion.

Your report on export finance is undated.

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Reply #44 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 8:26pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 7:38pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7^th, 2021 at 6:35pm:

I will have to disabuse several posters of their toxic dogma and ignorance.

Untrue: "we only import food products we don't grow". Australia imports food that is cheaper than Australian products. This is growing every year as Australian-grown food prices are rising faster than inflation.

Among US$ 64+ billion of food product exports in 2019, China exports US$ 600+ million of food products to Australia and US$ 3.3 Billion to the USA.

https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/LTST/TradeFlow/Exp...

"Chinese exports of agri-food commodities amounted to USD 64.83 billion in 2019. It increased by 85% in comparison to 2005. The share of China in global agri-food exports was equal to 4.1% The volume of exports amounted to 45.13 million tons and increased by 34% in comparison to 2005."

Lol, you idiot. Yes, China exported 600 million of food to Australia, we exported

$11.9Billion of food to China .

Quote:

$11.9b
food exports to China

https://www.exportfinance.gov.au/media/6424/export-finance-growing-australlias-f...

You horned dolt.

Chinese consume ~USD 9 per capita of Australian food whereas Australians consume ~USD 24 per capita of Chinese food.

There are 1.4 billion of them. We are a net food exporter. Why are you getting your panties in a bunch about that?

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