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Reply #45 - Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 8:26pm:
There are 1.4 billion of them. We are a net food exporter. Why are you getting your panties in a bunch about that?


The subject of food appears to disagree with Rhino and anger him in the Chinese context where Australian agricultural labors are minuscule on a Chinese per capita basis.

Rhino can't digest and stomach food facts which disagree with him.
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Reply #46 - Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:08pm
 
per capita covers a lot of sins. Wink
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Reply #47 - Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:12pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 8:26pm:
There are 1.4 billion of them. We are a net food exporter. Why are you getting your panties in a bunch about that?


The subject of food appears to disagree with Rhino and anger him in the Chinese context where Australian agricultural labors are minuscule on a Chinese per capita basis.

Rhino can't digest and stomach food facts which disagree with him.


He is just getting frustrated at how slow you are. There are 1.4 billion Chinese and 25 million of us. Everything we do will be on a smaller scale. That doesn't really change anything.

What exactly is your point?
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Reply #48 - Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:12pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 8:26pm:
There are 1.4 billion of them. We are a net food exporter. Why are you getting your panties in a bunch about that?


The subject of food appears to disagree with Rhino and anger him in the Chinese context where Australian agricultural labors are minuscule on a Chinese per capita basis.

Rhino can't digest and stomach food facts which disagree with him.


He is just getting frustrated at how slow you are. There are 1.4 billion Chinese and 25 million of us. Everything we do will be on a smaller scale. That doesn't really change anything.

What exactly is your point? 


Now FleaDriver is also choking on food facts extrapolated onto a larger scale.

It is always simpler for amateur, wannabe, agronomists to work with smaller bites of information.
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Reply #49 - Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:19pm
 
Meanwhile China has a mean wealth per adult of $68,000.

Australia - $488,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult#By_country

Just another useless fact. Wink
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Reply #50 - Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:24pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:19pm:
Meanwhile China has a mean wealth per adult of $68,000.

Australia - $488,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult#By_country

Just another useless fact. Wink


That is hard to swallow. FleaDriver will try to upstage you by regurgitating facts that he couldn't digest.
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Reply #51 - Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:30pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
That is hard to swallow


You have never shown difficulty before.
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Reply #52 - Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:43pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:30pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
That is hard to swallow


You have never shown difficulty before.


You can't eat a house. I suspect even FleaDriver would find bricks and mortar difficult.

Your offerings are disagreeable with other more factually edible fare on the internet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_financial_assets_per_capita
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Reply #53 - Aug 7th, 2021 at 10:04pm
 
So China per capita has about 13% of Australia. What did you want to find?
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Reply #54 - Aug 8th, 2021 at 1:13am
 
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 4:56pm:
you are misinformed, (no surprises there) we only import food products we dont  grow, we produce about 10 times the amount of food we actually need to survive, the rest is exported. If you hadnt noticed agriculture and farm products are one of our top 3 exports.  if China cuts trade completely tomorrow, our standard of living drops, no more cheap t shirts and sneakers until we sign the contracts to buy them from some other 3rd world country. But we still eat, China starves in a week without imported food, their industries stop tomorrow and total economic collapse without imported resources. The great famine all over again, why do you think China is so eager to try and ensure our compliance? they desperately need to secure their food and other resources, food in particular, China has always had trouble feeding itself and nothing has changed.


We produce maybe 3 or 4 times the amount of food that we need. The rest are going to exports. Although, I suspect that exports of food are the priority of where the food goes, leaving us with more than enough food for ourselves. We do not produce enough food to feed 250 million people.
If China cuts trade tomorrow, it definitely does hurt us. But, we do find new markets... eventually.
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Reply #55 - Aug 8th, 2021 at 12:38pm
 
Given that high levels of growth are unsustainable in the long term, how can a  ~15% growth rate in mining over the period 2004-2021 be sustained?

I accept that some of this is due to high prices rather than high volumes, especially post 2013-2017 when there was a pause in the unrelenting rise.

But it still leaves the economic consequences of Australia's laissez-faire political and resource strategy. When the minerals run out, what is Australia going to do with a barren manufacturing industry which will be even smaller than it is now. Such a policy unbalances the Australian economy and leaves it ill-prepared for the day the resources run out.

Of course, it is possible that China is stripping Australia's mineral resources as a long-term strategy leaving it's own resources for later use.

Could China be deliberately steering Australia into a state of an asymmetric unbalanced economy devoid of manufacturing that may not be recoverable for decades? Of course, such a strategy would not be possible without the willful or ignorant complicity of Australian politicians.

Australian metal ore and mineral quarterly exports ($A millions) since 1969.
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Reply #56 - Aug 8th, 2021 at 12:44pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:16pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:12pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 8:26pm:
There are 1.4 billion of them. We are a net food exporter. Why are you getting your panties in a bunch about that?


The subject of food appears to disagree with Rhino and anger him in the Chinese context where Australian agricultural labors are minuscule on a Chinese per capita basis.

Rhino can't digest and stomach food facts which disagree with him.


He is just getting frustrated at how slow you are. There are 1.4 billion Chinese and 25 million of us. Everything we do will be on a smaller scale. That doesn't really change anything.

What exactly is your point? 


Now FleaDriver is also choking on food facts extrapolated onto a larger scale.

It is always simpler for amateur, wannabe, agronomists to work with smaller bites of information.


What point are you trying to make by dividing exports one way by the Chinese population and the other way by the Australian population?

That you are easily confused?

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Given that high levels of growth are unsustainable in the long term, how can a  ~15% growth rate in mining over the period 2004-2021 be sustained?


Why does it have to be sustained? What makes you think people will even care about iron ore in 1000 years time?
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Reply #57 - Aug 8th, 2021 at 12:57pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 8th, 2021 at 12:44pm:
What makes you think people will even care about iron ore in 1000 years time?


When their wages are denominated in bags of coal which the world didn't want in a barren landscape devoid of manufacturing where even the immigrant flood has dried up? Pray tell?

You are looking for answers in an Australian strategic field where questions label an inquiring person as an enemy of the state.

There will never be enough answers in Australia for the questions.
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Reply #58 - Aug 8th, 2021 at 1:18pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 8th, 2021 at 12:57pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 8th, 2021 at 12:44pm:
What makes you think people will even care about iron ore in 1000 years time?


When their wages are denominated in bags of coal which the world didn't want in a barren landscape devoid of manufacturing where even the immigrant flood has dried up? Pray tell?

You are looking for answers in an Australian strategic field where questions label an inquiring person as an enemy of the state.

There will never be enough answers in Australia for the questions.


You are swimming in a sea of your own dribble.
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Reply #59 - Aug 8th, 2021 at 1:36pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 8th, 2021 at 1:18pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 8th, 2021 at 12:57pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 8th, 2021 at 12:44pm:
What makes you think people will even care about iron ore in 1000 years time?


When their wages are denominated in bags of coal which the world didn't want in a barren landscape devoid of manufacturing where even the immigrant flood has dried up? Pray tell?

You are looking for answers in an Australian strategic field where questions label an inquiring person as an enemy of the state.

There will never be enough answers in Australia for the questions.


You are swimming in a sea of your own dribble.


In your dreams. Thanks for sharing your aspirations.
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