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Reply #30 - Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:40pm
 
There is evidence....The bloke left Brittney Higgins completely naked and he reacons nothing happened???

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Parliament security guard describes finding Brittany Higgins on night of alleged rape




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Reply #31 - Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:51pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
There is evidence....The bloke left Brittney Higgins completely naked and he reacons nothing happened???

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Parliament security guard describes finding Brittany Higgins on night of alleged rape




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All the signs are there that sexual intercourse took place. Was it consensual? Could Higgins give informed consent given she was drunk?  The waters have been well and truly muddied, in no small part due to the incompetence of the security personnel, as evidenced by the statement this woman made to the press.
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Reply #32 - Aug 9th, 2021 at 5:13pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 1:20pm:
Redmond Neck wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2021 at 12:51pm:
Neferti wrote on Aug 6th, 2021 at 7:58pm:
Hadn't the bloke in question zipped off to the USA?



what happened to Matty?


Yeah good point what happened to him?




I remember, it was so long ago.  Wasn't  he a medical student who moved to US? 


that was him, studying psychiatry   ..I thought he was studying in NZ ?
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Reply #33 - Aug 9th, 2021 at 5:34pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
There is evidence....The bloke left Brittney Higgins completely naked and he reacons nothing happened???

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Parliament security guard describes finding Brittany Higgins on night of alleged rape




Huh Huh Huh



All the signs are there that sexual intercourse took place. Was it consensual? Could Higgins give informed consent given she was drunk?  The waters have been well and truly muddied, in no small part due to the incompetence of the security personnel, as evidenced by the statement this woman made to the press.


The bloke denies any sexual activity took place....He is going to have a hard time explaining why Ms Higgins was naked when he left after an hour???

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Man accused of sexual assault at Parliament House to face court, denies any sexual activity


https://www.9news.com.au/national/man-accused-of-sexual-assault-at-parliament-ho...

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Reply #34 - Aug 9th, 2021 at 5:42pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 5:34pm:
The bloke denies any sexual activity took place.


the bigger the lie the easier it is to prove he's lying. If he'd said there had just been a little foreplay and that was it, it would have been much more believable.
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Reply #35 - Aug 9th, 2021 at 6:47pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
There is evidence....The bloke left Brittney Higgins completely naked and he reacons nothing happened???

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Parliament security guard describes finding Brittany Higgins on night of alleged rape




Huh Huh Huh


How do you know HE left her naked?  She wasn't seen naked until much later, and then the stories contradict... one said partially, another said fully.

Belgarion got it right... the waters are way too muddied now, starting with the incompetent security staff, who may very well have jumped in to standard operating procedure in muddying the waters from Moment One, or been ordered to.

I still say this dopey sheila was put up to this interview, which is out of bounds itself, in order to do just that.

Parliamentary rank hath its privileges... one of which is to be protected by those who are on the periphery and whose very jobs depend on their doing this religiously.  This whole joint needs a thorough cleansing, not just the Minister's couch...

'If A discovers evidence at the scene and D, a police expert, wishes to attest to its significance at trial, he may do so only if A, B and C all give evidence that establishes an unbroken chain of possession.  Should they fail to do so, the evidence may be excluded.  This rule may seem inflexible, but it owes it existence to the realistic fear that police may in some instances deliberately fabricate or unwittingly fail to safeguard evidence to the detriment of the defendant's rights'.  -  Mark Lane, 'Rush to Judgement'.
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Reply #36 - Aug 9th, 2021 at 7:18pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 6:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
There is evidence....The bloke left Brittney Higgins completely naked and he reacons nothing happened???

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Parliament security guard describes finding Brittany Higgins on night of alleged rape




Huh Huh Huh


How do you know HE left her naked?  She wasn't seen naked until much later, and then the stories contradict... one said partially, another said fully


The woman security guard who first went to check said she was naked....Why do you defend accused rapists with bullshit???

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Reply #37 - Aug 10th, 2021 at 12:46am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 7:18pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 6:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
There is evidence....The bloke left Brittney Higgins completely naked and he reacons nothing happened???

Quote:
Parliament security guard describes finding Brittany Higgins on night of alleged rape




Huh Huh Huh


How do you know HE left her naked?  She wasn't seen naked until much later, and then the stories contradict... one said partially, another said fully


The woman security guard who first went to check said she was naked....Why do you defend accused rapists with bullshit???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


As usual, you get it totally wrong - you have no way of knowing he undressed her or how it happened, and one report said partly undressed, another naked.

I'm defending nobody, just the rule that requires factual evidence and not just assertions.

What if she took off her gear to have a doze?  Do YOU actually know? No - You Don't!  Same as you have no way of knowing if any sex took place at all.  The evidence physical is just not there, got that?

Put up or shut up ...

Nothing I say is bullshit, sonny... you, on the other hand, rave on...

That 'guard' should never have spoken at an interview, and could not do so without permission and certainly not in uniform while speaking as a private citizen, which is all she could be without official permission to speak about a matter that most likely would be under investigation .... that in itself raises questions to anyone who knows anything, which clearly is not the forte of those over West.
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Reply #38 - Aug 10th, 2021 at 6:05pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 10th, 2021 at 12:46am:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 7:18pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 6:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
There is evidence....The bloke left Brittney Higgins completely naked and he reacons nothing happened???

Quote:
Parliament security guard describes finding Brittany Higgins on night of alleged rape




Huh Huh Huh


How do you know HE left her naked?  She wasn't seen naked until much later, and then the stories contradict... one said partially, another said fully


The woman security guard who first went to check said she was naked....Why do you defend accused rapists with bullshit???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


As usual, you get it totally wrong - you have no way of knowing he undressed her or how it happened, and one report said partly undressed, another naked.

I'm defending nobody, just the rule that requires factual evidence and not just assertions.

What if she took off her gear to have a doze?  Do YOU actually know? No - You Don't!  Same as you have no way of knowing if any sex took place at all.  The evidence physical is just not there, got that?

Put up or shut up ...

Nothing I say is bullshit, sonny... you, on the other hand, rave on...

That 'guard' should never have spoken at an interview, and could not do so without permission and certainly not in uniform while speaking as a private citizen, which is all she could be without official permission to speak about a matter that most likely would be under investigation .... that in itself raises questions to anyone who knows anything, which clearly is not the forte of those over West.


Keep defending alleged rapists with your own assumptions....The police and prosecutor believe their is enough evidence to charge the bloke even though you are in denial....Is it any wonder most woman do not report rapes because of people like you???

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Reply #39 - Aug 11th, 2021 at 9:59am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 10th, 2021 at 6:05pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 10th, 2021 at 12:46am:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 7:18pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 6:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
There is evidence....The bloke left Brittney Higgins completely naked and he reacons nothing happened???

Quote:
Parliament security guard describes finding Brittany Higgins on night of alleged rape




Huh Huh Huh


How do you know HE left her naked?  She wasn't seen naked until much later, and then the stories contradict... one said partially, another said fully


The woman security guard who first went to check said she was naked....Why do you defend accused rapists with bullshit???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


As usual, you get it totally wrong - you have no way of knowing he undressed her or how it happened, and one report said partly undressed, another naked.

I'm defending nobody, just the rule that requires factual evidence and not just assertions.

What if she took off her gear to have a doze?  Do YOU actually know? No - You Don't!  Same as you have no way of knowing if any sex took place at all.  The evidence physical is just not there, got that?

Put up or shut up ...

Nothing I say is bullshit, sonny... you, on the other hand, rave on...

That 'guard' should never have spoken at an interview, and could not do so without permission and certainly not in uniform while speaking as a private citizen, which is all she could be without official permission to speak about a matter that most likely would be under investigation .... that in itself raises questions to anyone who knows anything, which clearly is not the forte of those over West.


Keep defending alleged rapists with your own assumptions....The police and prosecutor believe their is enough evidence to charge the bloke even though you are in denial....Is it any wonder most woman do not report rapes because of people like you???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You don't understand the simple difference between stating facts and defending someone.

The moment you say 'alleged' everyone has the absolute right to state facts about the matter.  Got that?  Even a conviction does not necessarily mean the person is guilty.

You'd make a great Nazi.  Try discussing the issues here and not attacking the poster.... and get off that sh1t.

Police and prosecutors always want to make a case, assuming, as has been the case for decades now, that the accusation itself will prejudice the outcome in their favour.  One clear reason for a massive overhaul of our courts.

They will try to make a case, and it is the right of the defence to put another scenario, in any 'popular' cause allegation - look at Rod Batterham - two years on remand and then found not guilty.

How would you like to spend two years of your life in fear and uncertainty because some dickweed wants to put on a show to please an audience over some trendy issue, such as a Black criminal or a woman with drunken claims?

How about you put up and SHOW the proof absolute that he had sex with her.  You can't - so shut up and wait for the trial, and in the meantime let the adults do the talking.
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Reply #40 - Aug 11th, 2021 at 10:27am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2021 at 9:59am:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 10th, 2021 at 6:05pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 10th, 2021 at 12:46am:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 7:18pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 6:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
There is evidence....The bloke left Brittney Higgins completely naked and he reacons nothing happened???

Quote:
Parliament security guard describes finding Brittany Higgins on night of alleged rape




Huh Huh Huh


How do you know HE left her naked?  She wasn't seen naked until much later, and then the stories contradict... one said partially, another said fully


The woman security guard who first went to check said she was naked....Why do you defend accused rapists with bullshit???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


As usual, you get it totally wrong - you have no way of knowing he undressed her or how it happened, and one report said partly undressed, another naked.

I'm defending nobody, just the rule that requires factual evidence and not just assertions.

What if she took off her gear to have a doze?  Do YOU actually know? No - You Don't!  Same as you have no way of knowing if any sex took place at all.  The evidence physical is just not there, got that?

Put up or shut up ...

Nothing I say is bullshit, sonny... you, on the other hand, rave on...

That 'guard' should never have spoken at an interview, and could not do so without permission and certainly not in uniform while speaking as a private citizen, which is all she could be without official permission to speak about a matter that most likely would be under investigation .... that in itself raises questions to anyone who knows anything, which clearly is not the forte of those over West.


Keep defending alleged rapists with your own assumptions....The police and prosecutor believe their is enough evidence to charge the bloke even though you are in denial....Is it any wonder most woman do not report rapes because of people like you???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You don't understand the simple difference between stating facts and defending someone.

The moment you say 'alleged' everyone has the absolute right to state facts about the matter.  Got that?  Even a conviction does not necessarily mean the person is guilty.

You'd make a great Nazi.  Try discussing the issues here and not attacking the poster.... and get off that sh1t.

Police and prosecutors always want to make a case, assuming, as has been the case for decades now, that the accusation itself will prejudice the outcome in their favour.  One clear reason for a massive overhaul of our courts.

They will try to make a case, and it is the right of the defence to put another scenario, in any 'popular' cause allegation - look at Rod Batterham - two years on remand and then found not guilty.

How would you like to spend two years of your life in fear and uncertainty because some dickweed wants to put on a show to please an audience over some trendy issue, such as a Black criminal or a woman with drunken claims?

How about you put up and SHOW the proof absolute that he had sex with her.  You can't - so shut up and wait for the trial, and in the meantime let the adults do the talking.


How about you admit you are a racist prick who defends rapists and puts forwards arguments that are based on your own opinion not the facts presented....Explain why this bloke took a woman to the Ministers office in the middle of the night and after an hour left with her found a short time later naked....The security guard who checked on Ms Higgins clearly stated that she was completely naked and you have put forward no evidence to contradict an eye witness despite posting bullshit....Put up of shut up you dickhead???

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Reply #41 - Aug 11th, 2021 at 10:30am
 
Ye grappler has the right of it.  Pointing out the way the law works is not defending rapists.
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Reply #42 - Aug 11th, 2021 at 10:51am
 
Belgarion wrote on Aug 11th, 2021 at 10:30am:
Ye grappler has the right of it.  Pointing out the way the law works is not defending rapists. 


The dickhead called me a Nazi for stating that the bloke has been charged with rape....The police collected the evidence and the Prosecutor found there was enough evidence to charge the bloke....The Grappler with reality is promoting the theory that the police and Prosecutor are somehow complicit or incompetent and even the accusations have prejudice the outcome in their favour (complete bullshit)....This is not pointing out the way the law works it is defending an accused rapist AGAIN!!!

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.. and you called me a defender of alleged rapists for stating the facts  - I said you would make a great Nazi given your propensity to condemn anyone on accusation and to throw away the rule of law to get what you think is right...

You ain't nuthin' but a smart mouthed, stupid-ass, swamp-runnin' Niqqer...

You have no idea of the very vast difference between a charge and a conviction to the proper standard.  Haven't you ever heard of Inspector Bias?  Sets out to make a case and ensure all the 'evidence' points one way, and doesn't look at anything else?

That's you....

I ask you again - where is the Proof Positive that he even had sex with her?  Did she immediately report it?  Did she go to a medical facility for a swab?  Was there ever any physical evidence of sexual intercourse that was recorded?  Did the security staff even smell raunch?  did they even say there was a distinctive smell in the room?

Or did she wait for days and weeks to make any complaint?

Sounds like Jarryd Hayne - days/weeks later the 'victim' saw a a doctor who said the scratch on her vagina might have been a bite mark.

Who in the name of god bites pussy??

Get with it, boy Nazi in waiting....... talk about slow and way behind....

Sometimes, like John Smith and a few others, you make a valid point... stick to what you actually know instead of spouting off, you smart mouthed, stupid-ass, swamp-runnin' Niqqer...
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Reply #44 - Aug 12th, 2021 at 9:17am
 
"Proof Positive."

Where is the proof positive Cowan killed Morecombe.  Where is the proof positive Baden-Clay killed his wife.

Give me an example of this 'proof positive' which led to a conviction, then give me an example of a conviction where there was no proof positive.  Ring a Pell, for example?
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