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Reply #45 - Aug 12th, 2021 at 9:34am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 12th, 2021 at 2:42am:
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.. and you called me a defender of alleged rapists for stating the facts  - I said you would make a great Nazi given your propensity to condemn anyone on accusation and to throw away the rule of law to get what you think is right...

You ain't nuthin' but a smart mouthed, stupid-ass, swamp-runnin' Niqqer...

You have no idea of the very vast difference between a charge and a conviction to the proper standard.  Haven't you ever heard of Inspector Bias?  Sets out to make a case and ensure all the 'evidence' points one way, and doesn't look at anything else?

That's you....

I ask you again - where is the Proof Positive that he even had sex with her?  Did she immediately report it?  Did she go to a medical facility for a swab?  Was there ever any physical evidence of sexual intercourse that was recorded?  Did the security staff even smell raunch?  did they even say there was a distinctive smell in the room?

Or did she wait for days and weeks to make any complaint?

Sounds like Jarryd Hayne - days/weeks later the 'victim' saw a a doctor who said the scratch on her vagina might have been a bite mark.

Who in the name of god bites pussy??

Get with it, boy Nazi in waiting....... talk about slow and way behind....

Sometimes, like John Smith and a few others, you make a valid point... stick to what you actually know instead of spouting off, you smart mouthed, stupid-ass, swamp-runnin' Niqqer...


The police and prosecutor determined there was enough evidence to charge this bloke with rape you dickhead not me....You are sprouting off bullshit racist crap as usual to defend your ignorance and stupidity....Typical butt hurt racist white supremist behaviour....As you have no idea what evidence the Prosecution have it is you who is making baseless assumptions to support your crap not me....Your rants are full of racist comments that say more about you than those you chose to denigrate....You are a disgusting piece of crap Grappler with reality!!!

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Reply #46 - Aug 30th, 2021 at 9:19pm
 
This has all the hallmarks of political interference all over it. This bloke had fuqqed around for many months obfuscating for Morrison, now it uses this petty garbage excuse.

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So....bottom line?

Morrison has 'successfully' duck shoved this until after the election.

I hope Labour get right up him in QT when they can but the smug shallow arsehole will just brush it off with......'sub judice' rubbish.

Fuqqed if I can see a link (any link...let alone a relevant link) between a question about when Morrison's Office first became aware of this alleged incident and a fair trial for the accused.
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Reply #47 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:37pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 9:19pm:
This has all the hallmarks of political interference all over it. This bloke had fuqqed around for many months obfuscating for Morrison, now it uses this petty garbage excuse.

Link.

So....bottom line?

Morrison has 'successfully' duck shoved this until after the election.

I hope Labour get right up him in QT when they can but the smug shallow arsehole will just brush it off with......'sub judice' rubbish.

Fuqqed if I can see a link (any link...let alone a relevant link) between a question about when Morrison's Office first became aware of this alleged incident and a fair trial for the accused.

Morrison initiated the investigation. Legal advice says it may impede the Higgins alleged rape trial, sounds like standard procedure and out of Morrison's control.
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Reply #48 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:44pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:37pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 9:19pm:
This has all the hallmarks of political interference all over it. This bloke had fuqqed around for many months obfuscating for Morrison, now it uses this petty garbage excuse.

Link.

So....bottom line?

Morrison has 'successfully' duck shoved this until after the election.

I hope Labour get right up him in QT when they can but the smug shallow arsehole will just brush it off with......'sub judice' rubbish.

Fuqqed if I can see a link (any link...let alone a relevant link) between a question about when Morrison's Office first became aware of this alleged incident and a fair trial for the accused.

Morrison initiated the investigation. Legal advice says it may impede the Higgins alleged rape trial, sounds like standard procedure and out of Morrison's control.


It is not arm's length legal opinion.  The opinion here comes from blokes inside Government, thus they have a very vested interest if they like to have a job.

It seems you have a very shallow view of how politics/public servants work.

All Morrison has to do is give a back door command and some minion will provide whatever arse tin-playing he wants.

That head bloke inside his own Department could and should have delivered his findings many many months ago.

This is all duck shoving prevarication/obfuscation to at least after the next election.
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Reply #49 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:59pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:44pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:37pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 9:19pm:
This has all the hallmarks of political interference all over it. This bloke had fuqqed around for many months obfuscating for Morrison, now it uses this petty garbage excuse.

Link.

So....bottom line?

Morrison has 'successfully' duck shoved this until after the election.

I hope Labour get right up him in QT when they can but the smug shallow arsehole will just brush it off with......'sub judice' rubbish.

Fuqqed if I can see a link (any link...let alone a relevant link) between a question about when Morrison's Office first became aware of this alleged incident and a fair trial for the accused.

Morrison initiated the investigation. Legal advice says it may impede the Higgins alleged rape trial, sounds like standard procedure and out of Morrison's control.


It is not arm's length legal opinion.  The opinion here comes from blokes inside Government, thus they have a very vested interest if they like to have a job.

It seems you have a very shallow view of how politics/public servants work.

All Morrison has to do is give a back door command and some minion will provide whatever arse tin-playing he wants.

That head bloke inside his own Department could and should have delivered his findings many many months ago.

This is all duck shoving prevarication/obfuscation to at least after the next election.

In your link is states the decision was based on legal advice.

I can see if all of this blows up in the media it could impede the trial, and given the medias track record it would go against the accused.
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Reply #50 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 4:33pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:37pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 9:19pm:
This has all the hallmarks of political interference all over it. This bloke had fuqqed around for many months obfuscating for Morrison, now it uses this petty garbage excuse.

Link.

So....bottom line?

Morrison has 'successfully' duck shoved this until after the election.

I hope Labour get right up him in QT when they can but the smug shallow arsehole will just brush it off with......'sub judice' rubbish.

Fuqqed if I can see a link (any link...let alone a relevant link) between a question about when Morrison's Office first became aware of this alleged incident and a fair trial for the accused.

Morrison initiated the investigation. Legal advice says it may impede the Higgins alleged rape trial, sounds like standard procedure and out of Morrison's control.



rubbish ... Morrison only initiated it to curb some of the blame he was getting. This investigation was supposed to take two weeks in February, instead he's still dicking around 6 months later.

Morrison just doesn't want this out before the election because HE KNEW and did nothing about it.
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Reply #51 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 4:43pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 4:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:37pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 9:19pm:
This has all the hallmarks of political interference all over it. This bloke had fuqqed around for many months obfuscating for Morrison, now it uses this petty garbage excuse.

Link.

So....bottom line?

Morrison has 'successfully' duck shoved this until after the election.

I hope Labour get right up him in QT when they can but the smug shallow arsehole will just brush it off with......'sub judice' rubbish.

Fuqqed if I can see a link (any link...let alone a relevant link) between a question about when Morrison's Office first became aware of this alleged incident and a fair trial for the accused.

Morrison initiated the investigation. Legal advice says it may impede the Higgins alleged rape trial, sounds like standard procedure and out of Morrison's control.



rubbish ... Morrison only initiated it to curb some of the blame he was getting. This investigation was supposed to take two weeks in February, instead he's still dicking around 6 months later.

Morrison just doesn't want this out before the election because HE KNEW and did nothing about it.

In your opinion.  He initiated it and then put a stop to it.

Maybe he rooted Higgins as well!
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Reply #52 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 5:36pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 4:43pm:
In your opinion


it's fact. He did nothing until he started to cop some public backlash

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Reply #53 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 9:49pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 5:36pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 4:43pm:
In your opinion


it's fact. He did nothing until he started to cop some public backlash


Classic case of damned if you do damned if you don't, bear in mind Higgins was called out by the top brass as being a lying cow.

The charged rapist walks free because Brittany has nothing but her say so.
She looks a bit slutty to me.
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Reply #54 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:19pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:44pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:37pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 9:19pm:
This has all the hallmarks of political interference all over it. This bloke had fuqqed around for many months obfuscating for Morrison, now it uses this petty garbage excuse.

Link.

So....bottom line?

Morrison has 'successfully' duck shoved this until after the election.

I hope Labour get right up him in QT when they can but the smug shallow arsehole will just brush it off with......'sub judice' rubbish.

Fuqqed if I can see a link (any link...let alone a relevant link) between a question about when Morrison's Office first became aware of this alleged incident and a fair trial for the accused.

Morrison initiated the investigation. Legal advice says it may impede the Higgins alleged rape trial, sounds like standard procedure and out of Morrison's control.


It is not arm's length legal opinion.  The opinion here comes from blokes inside Government, thus they have a very vested interest if they like to have a job.

It seems you have a very shallow view of how politics/public servants work.

All Morrison has to do is give a back door command and some minion will provide whatever arse tin-playing he wants.

That head bloke inside his own Department could and should have delivered his findings many many months ago.

This is all duck shoving prevarication/obfuscation to at least after the next election.


This has the feel of truth to it.... good work.
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Reply #55 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:28pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 12th, 2021 at 9:34am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 12th, 2021 at 2:42am:
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b7f99a3a-7a3c-44a6-a1a9-6662b38fe2e7

.. and you called me a defender of alleged rapists for stating the facts  - I said you would make a great Nazi given your propensity to condemn anyone on accusation and to throw away the rule of law to get what you think is right...

You ain't nuthin' but a smart mouthed, stupid-ass, swamp-runnin' Niqqer...

You have no idea of the very vast difference between a charge and a conviction to the proper standard.  Haven't you ever heard of Inspector Bias?  Sets out to make a case and ensure all the 'evidence' points one way, and doesn't look at anything else?

That's you....

I ask you again - where is the Proof Positive that he even had sex with her?  Did she immediately report it?  Did she go to a medical facility for a swab?  Was there ever any physical evidence of sexual intercourse that was recorded?  Did the security staff even smell raunch?  did they even say there was a distinctive smell in the room?

Or did she wait for days and weeks to make any complaint?

Sounds like Jarryd Hayne - days/weeks later the 'victim' saw a a doctor who said the scratch on her vagina might have been a bite mark.

Who in the name of god bites pussy??

Get with it, boy Nazi in waiting....... talk about slow and way behind....

Sometimes, like John Smith and a few others, you make a valid point... stick to what you actually know instead of spouting off, you smart mouthed, stupid-ass, swamp-runnin' Niqqer...


The police and prosecutor determined there was enough evidence to charge this bloke with rape you dickhead not me....You are sprouting off bullshit racist crap as usual to defend your ignorance and stupidity....Typical butt hurt racist white supremist behaviour....As you have no idea what evidence the Prosecution have it is you who is making baseless assumptions to support your crap not me....Your rants are full of racist comments that say more about you than those you chose to denigrate....You are a disgusting piece of crap Grappler with reality!!!

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A charge is not a guarantee of conviction or guilt - UNLESS you are an Ayatollah in Iran or somewhere similar - though our 'legal system' has always been weighted against the accused and 'magistrates' definitely work on the same values as Ayatollahs do, contrary to the Rule of OUR Law... you see, unlike the Ayatollah, we don't have the privilege of total belief that Allah will sort out any wrong done to someone charged, so convicting and executing them 'just in case they are guilty' doesn't quite work the same way.

Are you a God Believer and think that any wrong done to any individual will be resolved in Heaven?  If not - why do you support kangaroo court convictions based on accusation only without compelling evidence?

As I said - the opportunity to gather convincing and possibly conclusive evidence was long gone by the time this issue ever arose.... and it is an undying principle of mine that any accusation must be supported by substantial evidence and cannot rely exclusively on versions of events.

You should know that, given that such a stance would obliterate many police claims, including traffic etc things... surely as a Niqqer-Lover over there you would have to agree with that principle...

Whatever you think about it, that is the letter of the law even if it is not adhered to in 'courts'... yet it must be adhered to even if it 'costs' the state money for reasons of basic principles and rights ... that is what we pay them for....

Get with it.

Quite frankly, using your standards, you are totally stupid, uneducated, uninformed, and a proto-Fascist who would love to see rights destroyed as long as it suits some idea of your own.  You obviously know nothing and have no real principles unless you can see benefit for your chosen groups... it is certainly not I who am the racist - the Hayne case had nothing to do with race, you dickhead.
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Re: The Higgins allegations
Reply #56 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:34pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:19pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:44pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:37pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 9:19pm:
This has all the hallmarks of political interference all over it. This bloke had fuqqed around for many months obfuscating for Morrison, now it uses this petty garbage excuse.

Link.

So....bottom line?

Morrison has 'successfully' duck shoved this until after the election.

I hope Labour get right up him in QT when they can but the smug shallow arsehole will just brush it off with......'sub judice' rubbish.

Fuqqed if I can see a link (any link...let alone a relevant link) between a question about when Morrison's Office first became aware of this alleged incident and a fair trial for the accused.

Morrison initiated the investigation. Legal advice says it may impede the Higgins alleged rape trial, sounds like standard procedure and out of Morrison's control.


It is not arm's length legal opinion.  The opinion here comes from blokes inside Government, thus they have a very vested interest if they like to have a job.

It seems you have a very shallow view of how politics/public servants work.

All Morrison has to do is give a back door command and some minion will provide whatever arse tin-playing he wants.

That head bloke inside his own Department could and should have delivered his findings many many months ago.

This is all duck shoving prevarication/obfuscation to at least after the next election.


This has the feel of truth to it.... good work.

You forget one thing, there is not one scrap of proof so there is no good work done, none at all, forget the feelings, my feelings are she looked for a way out of the situation she found herself in by screaming RAPE later.
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Reply #57 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:44pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:34pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:19pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:44pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:37pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 9:19pm:
This has all the hallmarks of political interference all over it. This bloke had fuqqed around for many months obfuscating for Morrison, now it uses this petty garbage excuse.

Link.

So....bottom line?

Morrison has 'successfully' duck shoved this until after the election.

I hope Labour get right up him in QT when they can but the smug shallow arsehole will just brush it off with......'sub judice' rubbish.

Fuqqed if I can see a link (any link...let alone a relevant link) between a question about when Morrison's Office first became aware of this alleged incident and a fair trial for the accused.

Morrison initiated the investigation. Legal advice says it may impede the Higgins alleged rape trial, sounds like standard procedure and out of Morrison's control.


It is not arm's length legal opinion.  The opinion here comes from blokes inside Government, thus they have a very vested interest if they like to have a job.

It seems you have a very shallow view of how politics/public servants work.

All Morrison has to do is give a back door command and some minion will provide whatever arse tin-playing he wants.

That head bloke inside his own Department could and should have delivered his findings many many months ago.

This is all duck shoving prevarication/obfuscation to at least after the next election.


This has the feel of truth to it.... good work.

You forget one thing, there is not one scrap of proof so there is no good work done, none at all.



No, no, no - I was commenting on Aussie's view that MorrisonCo was doing 'standard operating procedure' to stuff up any case.  Muddying the waters was a hallmark of this issue from Day One - Reporting Day... unlike - say - philperth, I have no way of knowing that any offence actually occurred, and I've already said a great dis-service was done in there not being immediate action.

Obviously phil is too stupid or too narrow-minded or too drunk to understand English and see that any charge requires proof.  I doubt he'll ever be on a jury with that kind of mentality. He simply does not understand that good Law benefits all.... how many of his beloved Kaffir would not go to prison if the full standards of law were upheld as regards evidence?  And yet he wants to hang this man because a woman made the claim.... sorry - not sufficient... it needs EVIDENCE... if this guy was one of his beloved Blacks, would he have the same standard and demand instant conviction?

HOWEVER - that does not mean that I should accept that the accused is guilty because of any charge... this is anathema to OUR law and must never be permitted under any circumstances.

No compelling substantial evidence - no conviction... that's the principle, and it is better that ten guilty persons go free than that one innocent hang... IF there is compelling evidence and it shows guilt, I've always said this guy should hang..... but we - dear phil and I - simply cannot judge.

Aussie was right about the Canberra Bastardry in action... that's what I was saying was good work...
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Reply #58 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:54pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:44pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:34pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:19pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:44pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:37pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 9:19pm:
This has all the hallmarks of political interference all over it. This bloke had fuqqed around for many months obfuscating for Morrison, now it uses this petty garbage excuse.

Link.

So....bottom line?

Morrison has 'successfully' duck shoved this until after the election.

I hope Labour get right up him in QT when they can but the smug shallow arsehole will just brush it off with......'sub judice' rubbish.

Fuqqed if I can see a link (any link...let alone a relevant link) between a question about when Morrison's Office first became aware of this alleged incident and a fair trial for the accused.

Morrison initiated the investigation. Legal advice says it may impede the Higgins alleged rape trial, sounds like standard procedure and out of Morrison's control.


It is not arm's length legal opinion.  The opinion here comes from blokes inside Government, thus they have a very vested interest if they like to have a job.

It seems you have a very shallow view of how politics/public servants work.

All Morrison has to do is give a back door command and some minion will provide whatever arse tin-playing he wants.

That head bloke inside his own Department could and should have delivered his findings many many months ago.

This is all duck shoving prevarication/obfuscation to at least after the next election.


This has the feel of truth to it.... good work.

You forget one thing, there is not one scrap of proof so there is no good work done, none at all.



No, no, no - I was commenting on Aussie's view that MorrisonCo was doing 'standard operating procedure' to stuff up any case.  Muddying the waters was a hallmark of this issue from Day One - Reporting Day... unlike - say - philperth, I have no way of knowing that any offence actually occurred, and I've already said a great dis-service was done in there not being immediate action.

Obviously phil is too stupid or too narrow-minded or too drunk to understand English and see that any charge requires proof.  I doubt he'll ever be on a jury with that kind of mentality. He simply does not understand that good Law benefits all.... how many of his beloved Kaffir would not go to prison if the full standards of law were upheld as regards evidence?  And yet he wants to hang this man because a woman made the claim.... sorry - not sufficient... it needs EVIDENCE... if this guy was one of his beloved Blacks, would he have the same standard and demand instant conviction?

HOWEVER - that does not mean that I should accept that the accused is guilty because of any charge... this is anathema to OUR law and must never be permitted under any circumstances.

No compelling substantial evidence - no conviction... that's the principle, and it is better that ten guilty persons go free than that one innocent hang... IF there is compelling evidence and it shows guilt, I've always said this guy should hang..... but we - dear phil and I - simply cannot judge.

Aussie was right about the Canberra Bastardry in action... that's what I was saying was good work...

Aussie believes Higgins was raped and Morrison has a part to play because he is the PM and it happened in his place.
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Reply #59 - Sep 1st, 2021 at 12:35am
 
I don't know whether Higgins was raped or not... what I do know is that any solid evidence was long gone before anything happened at all.  I've commented, months ago, on the lack of positive work by the 'security' staff, who obviously are/were 'in the loop' as regards night-time liaisons inside Parliament House... something I trust is now forbidden, and yet poor darkened phil thinks I'm gunning for St Britanny and that I hate Niqqers and such...

I just demand that Law be adhered to - and phil must realise that a charge is not positive proof of anything - and is not a conviction.

Given the recent history of these kinds of things, a verdict of 'guilty' will come about through emotion and not sense..... and for fear of a negative reaction if the Law is properly adhered to... sheilas marching in the streets, most of whom have zero idea what they are marching about - and so forth - and the cowards will all run.

Aussie's comments on Canberra Dastardliness are pretty right.  I commented on the apparent cover-up from Day One - that's for you, dopey phil... but St Brittany did her 'cause' no favours by not doing anything for days.... very like the Hayne case...

Learn to read, you racist semi-literate dick-head.

For the illiterate and stupid here - guilt by accusation will NOT become the law of this land even if the accuser is a woman or a black or something ..... I will go to war if it does, and that ain't pretty.
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