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Reply #45 - Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 11th, 2021 at 2:16pm:
Wow, 3 days in a row our ABC is vilifying Aboriginals with these false narratives.
About 4th line from the top today, k_Anal.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/kids-dying-in-kimberley/100362742


It's the  English, Irish, Italian, Danish - white - people who make them do this. Everyone knows that.

It is white people who STOP Aborigines from looking after their own children. Everyone knows that.  It is white people who make Aborigines drink, fight, beat their women, neglect their children, rape their girls in remote areas where there are NO white people, except nurses, social workers and other helpers. THEY make them do this.  Aborigines CANNOT help it, they must do these things. Whites FORCE them to be like this.

"Look what you made me do to you" becomes " Look what whites made me do to you" for Aborigines.


Just do not mention Aborigines and personal responsibility in the same sentence, you racists.






So do you want the elders involved in the justice system?

You didn't say.
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Re: Youth crime rampant in kimberleys
Reply #46 - Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:16pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:00pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 11th, 2021 at 2:16pm:
Wow, 3 days in a row our ABC is vilifying Aboriginals with these false narratives.
About 4th line from the top today, k_Anal.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/kids-dying-in-kimberley/100362742


It's the  English, Irish, Italian, Danish - white - people who make them do this. Everyone knows that.

It is white people who STOP Aborigines from looking after their own children. Everyone knows that.  It is white people who make Aborigines drink, fight, beat their women, neglect their children, rape their girls in remote areas where there are NO white people, except nurses, social workers and other helpers. THEY make them do this.  Aborigines CANNOT help it, they must do these things. Whites FORCE them to be like this.

"Look what you made me do to you" becomes " Look what whites made me do to you" for Aborigines.


Just do not mention Aborigines and personal responsibility in the same sentence, you racists.






So do you want the elders involved in the justice system?

You didn't say.



Only in an advisory position - sort of like a 'friend of the court' - capisce?

Not as the ultimate determinant of what should and should not happen - AND - to accept responsibility for the REAL outcomes of any 'negotiated' outcomes.

Not just to provide a whitewash (sic) for any proven crimes against persons and property - but to accept responsibility for ensuring that proper rectification and rehabilitation are properly and effectively pursued...

Note that last word - effectively...

Not just - oh, we tried our way, but it didn't work, so now justice has been upheld, right?  Let him go out and do it again then we'll try again, eh, Bro?  Mebbe nex' tahm we get 'im raght, eh?

Ya godda smok?

Capisce?

We want OUTCOMES - not just empty BS covering over of crimes and criminals.
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Re: Youth crime rampant in kimberleys
Reply #47 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 2:21pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:31pm:
Kat wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 4:50pm:
It's because there's probably fork-all else for them to do.

yeah, I was a bit bored yesterday so I indulged in some vandalism, house breaking and general criminal activity. You idiot.


You do have some difficulty understanding things sometimes.

I wasn't making an excuse for them, I was simply stating a possible reason.

Not the same thing at all.
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Reply #48 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 2:38pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:16pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:00pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 11th, 2021 at 2:16pm:
Wow, 3 days in a row our ABC is vilifying Aboriginals with these false narratives.
About 4th line from the top today, k_Anal.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/kids-dying-in-kimberley/100362742


It's the  English, Irish, Italian, Danish - white - people who make them do this. Everyone knows that.

It is white people who STOP Aborigines from looking after their own children. Everyone knows that.  It is white people who make Aborigines drink, fight, beat their women, neglect their children, rape their girls in remote areas where there are NO white people, except nurses, social workers and other helpers. THEY make them do this.  Aborigines CANNOT help it, they must do these things. Whites FORCE them to be like this.

"Look what you made me do to you" becomes " Look what whites made me do to you" for Aborigines.


Just do not mention Aborigines and personal responsibility in the same sentence, you racists.






So do you want the elders involved in the justice system?

You didn't say.



Only in an advisory position - sort of like a 'friend of the court' - capisce?

Not as the ultimate determinant of what should and should not happen - AND - to accept responsibility for the REAL outcomes of any 'negotiated' outcomes.

Not just to provide a whitewash (sic) for any proven crimes against persons and property - but to accept responsibility for ensuring that proper rectification and rehabilitation are properly and effectively pursued...

Note that last word - effectively...

Not just - oh, we tried our way, but it didn't work, so now justice has been upheld, right?  Let him go out and do it again then we'll try again, eh, Bro?  Mebbe nex' tahm we get 'im raght, eh?

Ya godda smok?

Capisce?

We want OUTCOMES - not just empty BS covering over of crimes and criminals.


We have elders who sit on the Koori youth court here in Parramatta.

Interesting form of justice. It's designed to be inclusive rather than punative. Offenders "graduate" and get awards. All the kids I've spoken to came away respecting it - can you imagine?

Justice as a way of reintegrating and connecting kids, not punishing them. I saw a boy sentenced - their first. The magistrate took the charges seriously, they weren't minimised. But rather than punish them, safeguards were put in through casework to prevent them happening again.
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Reply #49 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 2:55pm
 
Maybe the parents should be copunished for the crimes of unsupervised kids.

I wonder where the parents are?
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Reply #50 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 3:48pm
 
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 2:55pm:
Maybe the parents should be copunished for the crimes of unsupervised kids.

I wonder where the parents are?


I blame the parents.

They're tinted.
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Reply #51 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 4:23pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 3:48pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 2:55pm:
Maybe the parents should be copunished for the crimes of unsupervised kids.

I wonder where the parents are?


I blame the parents.





Exactly.

Ms Fanning and her quartet of experts droned on about why Aboriginal kids are getting into trouble with the law without once considering the role of ‘parents’ in child rearing.  Not one of them asked why kids who are wandering the streets at night are not being supervised by their parents. It is a question so obvious that the only reason that it wasn’t asked, is because all five of those informed ‘experts’ knew the answer.

In a survey of Aboriginal women in Fitzroy Valley in the Kimberley region, 50 per cent reported drinking while pregnant and 1 in 8 Indigenous kids born in that region were diagnosed as suffering from foetal alcohol syndrome (‘The Liliwan Project’). This is one of the highest incidences of FASD in the world and goes a long way to explain the incidence of Indigenous incarceration in that region.

The recent tragic incident in Adelaide in which an Indigenous 13-year-old boy was crushed to death in a garbage compactor in which he and two friends were sleeping is another example of parental failure. Had the poor boy been white, the media would have been onto the family immediately and asked, not unreasonably, why they didn’t know where their child was spending the night. Because he was Indigenous, the media tiptoed around the issue of possible parental neglect. It is a pattern we see repeatedly in the media’s discussion of dysfunctional families in Aboriginal communities.  The Fanning world view believes the reason why kids are locked up is not because there is no parental control, not because they keep stealing cars, not because of substance abuse.  It is because they are victimised by the police.

There are many reasons why Indigenous kids become enmeshed in the youth criminal justice system and it is time that journalists started doing their job of investigating those reasons instead of presenting an ideologically driven account of white supremacists masquerading as police.

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These parents are not called out because they are Aborigines (or Africans, Islanders or otherwise vibrant).
Vibrants behaving badly? White racist make them do it. Their own have nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.


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Re: Youth crime rampant in kimberleys
Reply #52 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 5:10pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 2:38pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:16pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 11:00pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 9:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 11th, 2021 at 2:16pm:
Wow, 3 days in a row our ABC is vilifying Aboriginals with these false narratives.
About 4th line from the top today, k_Anal.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/kids-dying-in-kimberley/100362742


It's the  English, Irish, Italian, Danish - white - people who make them do this. Everyone knows that.

It is white people who STOP Aborigines from looking after their own children. Everyone knows that.  It is white people who make Aborigines drink, fight, beat their women, neglect their children, rape their girls in remote areas where there are NO white people, except nurses, social workers and other helpers. THEY make them do this.  Aborigines CANNOT help it, they must do these things. Whites FORCE them to be like this.

"Look what you made me do to you" becomes " Look what whites made me do to you" for Aborigines.


Just do not mention Aborigines and personal responsibility in the same sentence, you racists.






So do you want the elders involved in the justice system?

You didn't say.



Only in an advisory position - sort of like a 'friend of the court' - capisce?

Not as the ultimate determinant of what should and should not happen - AND - to accept responsibility for the REAL outcomes of any 'negotiated' outcomes.

Not just to provide a whitewash (sic) for any proven crimes against persons and property - but to accept responsibility for ensuring that proper rectification and rehabilitation are properly and effectively pursued...

Note that last word - effectively...

Not just - oh, we tried our way, but it didn't work, so now justice has been upheld, right?  Let him go out and do it again then we'll try again, eh, Bro?  Mebbe nex' tahm we get 'im raght, eh?

Ya godda smok?

Capisce?

We want OUTCOMES - not just empty BS covering over of crimes and criminals.


We have elders who sit on the Koori youth court here in Parramatta.

Interesting form of justice. It's designed to be inclusive rather than punative. Offenders "graduate" and get awards. All the kids I've spoken to came away respecting it - can you imagine?

Justice as a way of reintegrating and connecting kids, not punishing them. I saw a boy sentenced - their first. The magistrate took the charges seriously, they weren't minimised. But rather than punish them, safeguards were put in through casework to prevent them happening again.



It's always reasonable to give a kid a chance... the problem is allowing that chance to become a lifetime of chances...
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Reply #53 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 5:32pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:31pm:
Kat wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 4:50pm:
It's because there's probably fork-all else for them to do.

yeah, I was a bit bored yesterday so I indulged in some vandalism, house breaking and general criminal activity. You idiot.



the streets of Sydney are full of bored youth getting up to mischief. It's a valid observation and only an idiot ignores the causes of a problem  .. you might as well put a band aid on someone to deal with their cancer.
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Reply #54 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 10:05pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 5:32pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:31pm:
Kat wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 4:50pm:
It's because there's probably fork-all else for them to do.

yeah, I was a bit bored yesterday so I indulged in some vandalism, house breaking and general criminal activity. You idiot.



the streets of Sydney are full of bored youth getting up to mischief. It's a valid observation and only an idiot ignores the causes of a problem  .. you might as well put a band aid on someone to deal with their cancer.

Aimless youth - I blame the parents. If you can't inculcate purpose and meaning in your children then what use are you as a parent? You are a hindrance, a burden, a  bloody disaster for them.

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Reply #55 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 10:35pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 5:32pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 5:31pm:
Kat wrote on Aug 14th, 2021 at 4:50pm:
It's because there's probably fork-all else for them to do.

yeah, I was a bit bored yesterday so I indulged in some vandalism, house breaking and general criminal activity. You idiot.



the streets of Sydney are full of bored youth getting up to mischief. It's a valid observation and only an idiot ignores the causes of a problem  .. you might as well put a band aid on someone to deal with their cancer.
The problem is not boredom, its allowing the excuse of boredom for criminal acts. Only an idiot doesnt understand there is never an excuse for this type of criminal behaviour, thats why we have laws and jails, go stand in the naughty boy corner with Pecca.
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Reply #56 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 10:50pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 3:48pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 2:55pm:
Maybe the parents should be copunished for the crimes of unsupervised kids.

I wonder where the parents are?


I blame the parents.

They're tinted.


Yes they are. But they have been assimilated into white culture, tinted or not they bare responsibility.
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Reply #57 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:17pm
 
Raven wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 10:50pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 3:48pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 2:55pm:
Maybe the parents should be copunished for the crimes of unsupervised kids.

I wonder where the parents are?


I blame the parents.

They're tinted.


Yes they are. But they have been assimilated into white culture, tinted or not they bare responsibility.


Don't be silly - they demand all the privilege and then some special rights, but under Critical Race Theory they are Victims and thus hold no responsibility for anything.

Yardle, yardle, yardle...

Half-watched that 60 minutes thing on Neo-Nazis - was struck by the condemnation of the idea of getting some person to walk into a 'dangerous' area controlled by Black violence in Malbodishu and then 'sorting out' those who attacked that person.

What struck me about the way this was presented was that it was considered Evil™ to set someone up like that and then bash them - but it was not somehow EVIL for those persons to attack some passerby.

Amazing - if you are part of some Accredited Victim Group you are free to do anything without criticism, but if you are part of any group that reacts to violence, you are totally in the wrong.

It's a weird world we live in these days.  People walk past crimes or lock themselves away for fear of being attacked, not only by evil perpetrators, but also by authorities for intervening and maybe getting into a fight with criminals harming some innocent.  Just like all those people in that caravan park at Fitzroy Crossing.
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Reply #58 - Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:49pm
 
Raven wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 10:50pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 3:48pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 2:55pm:
Maybe the parents should be copunished for the crimes of unsupervised kids.

I wonder where the parents are?


I blame the parents.

They're tinted.


Yes they are. But they have been assimilated into white culture, tinted or not they bare responsibility.


They're kids. Their "parents" are offering to help.

Did you read the OP? Gordon posted it up for us to read, not mindlessly blaming people.

Right, Gordon?
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Reply #59 - Aug 16th, 2021 at 11:19pm
 
And it ain't just in the Kimberleys....
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