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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools Aug 13^th, 2021 at 5:07pm Religious nutters carrying daggers to school is just insane. A kid got stabbed in the back at school by one of these nutters. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/religious-knives-to-be-allowed-in-nsw-sch...
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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10969 armidale Gender:	Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools Reply #1 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 5:22pm "The kirpan being carried must be no bigger than 8.5 centimetres, with no sharp edges or points." Something like a crucifix or butter knife in school lunch?
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103116 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools Reply #2 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 5:29pm So if you're a Sikh you can carry a knife. In Victoria we can't even have a tiny pocket knife on our key ring. Even a 1 inch blade with a 1 inch handle is illegal.
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Reply #3 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 5:29pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13^th, 2021 at 5:22pm:

"The kirpan being carried must be no bigger than 8.5 centimetres, with no sharp edges or points."

Something like a crucifix or butter knife in school lunch?

That's not a knife, wait, yes it is, tell the kid who got stabbed in the back it was no worse than a butter knife only they probably don't bend or break when hitting a bone, does the metalwork teacher check on sharpness.

The rest of the kids will be bringing snooker balls in socks to school to even things up a bit.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10969 armidale Gender:	Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools Reply #4 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 5:34pm "Ms Mitchell said the decision to carry the kirpan, an important one for many Sikhs, would be discussed on an individual basis and any student who did not comply with the guidelines would face disciplinary action." Is it possible that a school employee may actually ask to see the kirpan?
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Reply #5 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 6:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13^th, 2021 at 5:29pm:

So if you're a Sikh you can carry a knife.

Yeah, but you have to wear a turban, can't cut your hair, and you're not allowed to drink.

I don't think too many will be converting to Sikhism to have the luxury of carrying around an 8.5 cm blunt knife.

We used to do more damage with a compass. Hold one against a PE teacher's neck for a couple of minutes and you'll never have to run the oval again.

Take it from me, boys, it doesn't work if you get conscripted and sent to Kapuka.

Been there, done that.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95294 Gender:	Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools Reply #6 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 6:13pm Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.
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Reply #7 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 6:20pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 13^th, 2021 at 6:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13^th, 2021 at 5:29pm:

So if you're a Sikh you can carry a knife.

Yes, but you have to wear a turban, can't cut your hair, and you're not allowed to drink.

I don't think too many will be converting to Sikhism to have the luxury of carrying around an 8.5 cm blunt knife.

You?

It's not compulsory to do any of those things in Sikhism so they can choose to carry a dagger or not in Australia, religious pandering at its best,, THAT'S NOT A KNIFE!, wait, what's that sticking out of that kids back.

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Gordon Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 20493 Gordon Gender:	Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools Reply #8 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 6:40pm Do cabbies carry them? They'd frkup a bottle throwing retard.
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Reply #9 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 6:43pm

"It is also part of a religious commandment given by Guru Gobind Singh in 1699, in which he gave an option to the Sikhs, if they accepted they must wear the five articles of faith (the five Ks) at all times, the kirpan being one of five Ks".

Parramatta Marist High School 1954. "You got a light, buddy?"
Paul "Sure, there you go".
"And your wallet".
Linda "He's got a knife".
Paul "That's not a knife".
"Neither is that".
"No. It's a crucifix".
"$%(!$**$#^ " ( feet running fast)

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Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Reply #10 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 7:05pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13^th, 2021 at 6:43pm:

"It is also part of a religious commandment given by Guru Gobind Singh in 1699, in which he gave an option to the Sikhs, if they accepted they must wear the five articles of faith (the five Ks) at all times, the kirpan being one of five Ks".

Parramatta Marist High School 1954. "You got a light, buddy?"
Paul "Sure, there you go".
"And your wallet".
Linda "He's got a knife".
Paul "That's not a knife".
"Neither is that".
"No. It's a crucifix".
"$%(!$**$#^ " ( feet running fast)

Gurus with their commandments need to get with the times, what are they going to do, run around with hair clippers and measuring sticks to measure their shanks. The modern Sikh's have made their own rules on Sikhism and carrying a blade is their right in Australia.

That IS a knife!

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Reply #11 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 7:26pm

"We have worked closely with community representatives, including from the Australian Sikh Association and the NSW Gurdwara Group, as well as Multicultural NSW and other government agencies, to develop these new guidelines." The new guidelines mean:
The kirpan being carried must be no bigger than 8.5 centimetres, with no sharp edges or points."
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"No" determiner. means not any.
"Sharp" means: (of an object) having an edge or point that is able to cut or pierce something.
What the government position is can be found by joining the two : "no sharp". Probably the concept relates to not having an ability to cut. A sharp edge can certainly cut, a not sharp edge is much less able to cut. It's not cutting. The kirpan is un-sharp. It has not any sharpness. An un-cutting edge. You could even say it's an un-cutter.

Now we can move onto the word "points". Or you could look up the meaning for "points".

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Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools
Reply #12 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 7:43pm

chimera wrote on Aug 13^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

"We have worked closely with community representatives, including from the Australian Sikh Association and the NSW Gurdwara Group, as well as Multicultural NSW and other government agencies, to develop these new guidelines." The new guidelines mean:
The kirpan being carried must be no bigger than 8.5 centimetres, with no sharp edges or points."
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"No" determiner. means not any.
"Sharp" means: (of an object) having an edge or point that is able to cut or pierce something.
What the government position is can be found by joining the two : "no sharp". Probably the concept relates to not having an ability to cut. A sharp edge can certainly cut, a not sharp edge is much less able to cut. It's not cutting. The kirpan is un-sharp. It has not any sharpness. An un-cutting edge. You could even say it's an un-cutter.

Now we can move onto the word "points". Or you could look up the meaning for "points".

Do you know what the purpose of a kirpan (a shank) is, i will tell you, it's to kill and how come that kirpan pierced that kids back if it was not sharp or not even just a little bit sharp. That religious nutter kid was going for the kill, he also stabbed the kid in the gut.

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16137 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Dagger ban reversed in NSW schools Reply #13 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 7:47pm I say let everyone except monkeys or muzzos carry knives.
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Reply #14 - Aug 13^th, 2021 at 7:51pm

"New" means produced, introduced, or discovered recently or now for the first time; not existing before.
"Guidelines" means a general rule, principle, or piece of advice.

There were old guidelines, followed by new guidelines. The old ones are not the new ones, which are new guidelines. Those guidelines are now "new". They are different from the old ones. In exactly the same way, the old ones are different from the new ones. So we can combine our two words - new guidelines. Can you see what these words are saying?

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