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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #135 - Aug 19^th, 2021 at 10:11pm

In Muslim countries there was a special tax paid by Christians. Would you say that's fair? Would you feel equal if the government prayers were only to Allah and the holidays were all Muslim? What would happen here if Muhamad's birthday became a holiday?

Do you agree with democracy? On your basis, everyone has to be Church of England and be British. Catch up? With 1950?

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #136 - Aug 19^th, 2021 at 10:58pm

Setanta wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 2:42pm:

Effendi...is it okay with you if I climb all over your Home and bring a few mates as well. We will have a booze up and a bbq when up there. Okay?

It most certainly is not. Mt Warning is a site of cultural importance.

Effende should be okay with you climbing on his fishing club.

Fishing is not a race, no?

More like Effende should be ok with you walking on his fishing beach or swimming in his fishing water.
You see, mountains, beaches and oceans are all natural features, natural features are unlike man made structures in that men make structures, there is no comparison. We all share nature.

If we shared national parks, dear, you'd be allowed into every native wildlife sanctuary, path under construction and, oh, parks closed down for covid.

Effende's race baiting. Its his latest thing. He also likes to play no-speaka-da-English with people's points when they differ from his.

You?

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #137 - Aug 19^th, 2021 at 11:00pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:32pm:

Setanta wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 2:42pm:

Effendi...is it okay with you if I climb all over your Home and bring a few mates as well. We will have a booze up and a bbq when up there. Okay?

It most certainly is not. Mt Warning is a site of cultural importance.

Effende should be okay with you climbing on his fishing club.

Fishing is not a race, no?

More like Effende should be ok with you walking on his fishing beach or swimming in his fishing water.
You see, mountains, beaches and oceans are all natural features, natural features are unlike man made structures in that men make structures, there is no comparison. We all share nature.

Nah.....some mountains, and other places, we do not get to disrespectfully "share" as they are of indigenous relevance. Unless of course you are terra nullius wanker. Are you?

Ah. That one's no-speaka-da-Latin.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #138 - Aug 19^th, 2021 at 11:01pm

freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:32pm:

Setanta wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 2:42pm:

Effendi...is it okay with you if I climb all over your Home and bring a few mates as well. We will have a booze up and a bbq when up there. Okay?

It most certainly is not. Mt Warning is a site of cultural importance.

Effende should be okay with you climbing on his fishing club.

Fishing is not a race, no?

More like Effende should be ok with you walking on his fishing beach or swimming in his fishing water.
You see, mountains, beaches and oceans are all natural features, natural features are unlike man made structures in that men make structures, there is no comparison. We all share nature.

Nah.....some mountains, and other places, we do not get to disrespectfully "share" as they are of indigenous relevance. Unless of course you are terra nullius wanker. Are you?

Why not Aussie?

And why do you consider it disrespectful to share access to our natural wonders?

And what makes you think it has anything to do with terra nullis?

A nature-wonderer, eh?

Gordon?

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #139 - Aug 19^th, 2021 at 11:04pm

Setanta wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 6:58pm:

Indigenous Australians can be secure in the knowledge they may climb Mt Olympus, home of the Greek gods. The Greeks will even guide you and fill you in on the myth.

https://www.muchbetteradventures.com/magazine/content/images/2019/11/27150702/iS...
https://www.muchbetteradventures.com/magazine/mount-olympus-guide/

Oh? Can indigenous Australians currently climb Mt Warning?

I'm curious.

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Reply #140 - Aug 20^th, 2021 at 7:02am

chimera wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 9:58pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 9:48pm:

Why does it even matter what their religious beliefs are?

What religious view is being imposed?

Do you now oppose the ban from Mount Warning?

Protection from what? .

If Christian religious beliefs have government application, then Indigenous beliefs should. Unless you are saying that only European Christians belong in this country.
I have repeatedly pointed to the imposed religious views. I don't support imposition but if Christian views are imposed in various ways there should be equal actions for Indigenous views such as at Wollumbin. The protection is for Indigenous views within a dominating Christian state.

You have not pointed out a single imposed religious view. I keep asking you what these views are that you think are being imposed, but you always respond with meaningless gibberish.

What are aborigines being protected from?

You are a hypocrit. You claim you do not support the government imposing one group's religious views on everyone else. yet you go out of your way to look for excuses to do so. This is not rational chimera. An excuse is not the same thing as a reason. It merely demonstrates you lack any courage to stand behind your convictions.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #141 - Aug 20^th, 2021 at 7:28am

chimera wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 10:11pm:

In Muslim countries there was a special tax paid by Christians. Would you say that's fair? Would you feel equal if the government prayers were only to Allah and the holidays were all Muslim? What would happen here if Muhamad's birthday became a holiday?

Do you agree with democracy? On your basis, everyone has to be Church of England and be British. Catch up? With 1950?

WE have that in Australia too

Its called halal accreditation

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #142 - Aug 20^th, 2021 at 7:30am

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 12:10pm:

The separation of church and state is an old concept in western civilisation.

Are parliament's prayers delivered by a church clergyman? Is that a religious activity? If so, the imposed religion is equal to protecting Aboriginal religious values for Wollumbin peak.

Parliament has the Lord's prayer followed by:
"39. (1) The Speaker or the Clerk shall read the following prayer after the Speaker takes the Chair each day.
"Almighty God, we ask for your blessing upon this Parliament. Direct and prosper our deliberations to the true welfare of Australia and the people of New South Wales. Amen."

That directly attributes national and state prosperity to the Christian god. It's a form of religious dictatorship to refuse a mountain top to be declared a site of another belief. A couple of world wars were fought for liberty, (including for Jews).

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #143 - Aug 20^th, 2021 at 12:04pm

chimera wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 12:10pm:

The separation of church and state is an old concept in western civilisation.

Are parliament's prayers delivered by a church clergyman? Is that a religious activity? If so, the imposed religion is equal to protecting Aboriginal religious values for Wollumbin peak.

Parliament has the Lord's prayer followed by:
"39. (1) The Speaker or the Clerk shall read the following prayer after the Speaker takes the Chair each day.
"Almighty God, we ask for your blessing upon this Parliament. Direct and prosper our deliberations to the true welfare of Australia and the people of New South Wales. Amen."

That directly attributes national and state prosperity to the Christian god. It's a form of religious dictatorship to refuse a mountain top to be declared a site of another belief. A couple of world wars were fought for liberty, (including for Jews).

That's true, Chimera. Parliament also has a Welcome To Country address. This is wacist and unfair too, no?

The Boongs are imposing their tinted religion onto us. Why aren't you suitably disgusted?

FD is. You?

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #144 - Aug 20^th, 2021 at 12:13pm

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 7:02am:

chimera wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 9:58pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 9:48pm:

Why does it even matter what their religious beliefs are?

What religious view is being imposed?

Do you now oppose the ban from Mount Warning?

Protection from what? .

If Christian religious beliefs have government application, then Indigenous beliefs should. Unless you are saying that only European Christians belong in this country.
I have repeatedly pointed to the imposed religious views. I don't support imposition but if Christian views are imposed in various ways there should be equal actions for Indigenous views such as at Wollumbin. The protection is for Indigenous views within a dominating Christian state.

You have not pointed out a single imposed religious view. I keep asking you what these views are that you think are being imposed, but you always respond with meaningless gibberish.

What are aborigines being protected from?

You are a hypocrit. You claim you do not support the government imposing one group's religious views on everyone else. yet you go out of your way to look for excuses to do so. This is not rational chimera. An excuse is not the same thing as a reason. It merely demonstrates you lack any courage to stand behind your convictions.

Exactly. Chimera has tapdanced and contorted and squirmed to justify the NPA's decision to keep the parks closed during covid.

So wacist and unfair. People will do anything to support Gladys' race war. They won't be happy until Gladys hands the entire state over to the Boongs.

Thank God there are still sensible people around to call this out and stand up for the rights of decent white people everywhere.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #145 - Aug 20^th, 2021 at 6:00pm

chimera wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 12:10pm:

The separation of church and state is an old concept in western civilisation.

Are parliament's prayers delivered by a church clergyman? Is that a religious activity? If so, the imposed religion is equal to protecting Aboriginal religious values for Wollumbin peak.

Parliament has the Lord's prayer followed by:
"39. (1) The Speaker or the Clerk shall read the following prayer after the Speaker takes the Chair each day.
"Almighty God, we ask for your blessing upon this Parliament. Direct and prosper our deliberations to the true welfare of Australia and the people of New South Wales. Amen."

That directly attributes national and state prosperity to the Christian god. It's a form of religious dictatorship to refuse a mountain top to be declared a site of another belief. A couple of world wars were fought for liberty, (including for Jews).

Back to meaningless gibberish eh?

You have not pointed out a single imposed religious view. I keep asking you what these views are that you think are being imposed, but you always respond with meaningless gibberish.

What are aborigines being protected from?

You are a hypocrit. You claim you do not support the government imposing one group's religious views on everyone else. yet you go out of your way to look for excuses to do so. This is not rational chimera. An excuse is not the same thing as a reason. It merely demonstrates you lack any courage to stand behind your convictions.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #146 - Aug 20^th, 2021 at 6:20pm

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 6:00pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 12:10pm:

The separation of church and state is an old concept in western civilisation.

Are parliament's prayers delivered by a church clergyman? Is that a religious activity? If so, the imposed religion is equal to protecting Aboriginal religious values for Wollumbin peak.

Parliament has the Lord's prayer followed by:
"39. (1) The Speaker or the Clerk shall read the following prayer after the Speaker takes the Chair each day.
"Almighty God, we ask for your blessing upon this Parliament. Direct and prosper our deliberations to the true welfare of Australia and the people of New South Wales. Amen."

That directly attributes national and state prosperity to the Christian god. It's a form of religious dictatorship to refuse a mountain top to be declared a site of another belief. A couple of world wars were fought for liberty, (including for Jews).

Back to meaningless gibberish eh?

You have not pointed out a single imposed religious view. I keep asking you what these views are that you think are being imposed, but you always respond with meaningless gibberish.

What are aborigines being protected from?

You are a hypocrit. You claim you do not support the government imposing one group's religious views on everyone else. yet you go out of your way to look for excuses to do so. This is not rational chimera. An excuse is not the same thing as a reason. It merely demonstrates you lack any courage to stand behind your convictions.

You already said that, FD. Chimera told you MPs are having the Lord's Prayer imposed on them in parliament.

What if they were Satan worshippers or possessed by evil spirits? They might suffer an involuntary exorcism. The results of this could be catastrophic.

This means that only monotheists can become MPs - a serious breach of our Freeeeeedom as I'm sure you'll agree.

The only thing Gladys is imposing on you is a lockdown of a national park during covid. Our MPs have to suffer the Lord's Prayer being intoned into their sculls every time they sit in parliament.

Are you opposed to this or are you a bit of a naughty old hypocrite?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11682 Armidale Gender:	Re: Racism Warning Reply #147 - Aug 20^th, 2021 at 6:27pm I have not claimed that Wollumbin decision imposes a religious view, you have claimed it. Then what is the Aboriginal religious view that you claim is imposed? If you can't comprehend that Christian prayers in parliament are imposing a view on non-Christians, then I'm not surprised.
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49164 At my desk.	Re: Racism Warning Reply #148 - Aug 20^th, 2021 at 6:29pm Let's dumb it down a bit: chimera wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 9:58pm: I have repeatedly pointed to the imposed religious views. What views are being imposed?
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11682 Armidale Gender:	Re: Racism Warning Reply #149 - Aug 20^th, 2021 at 6:34pm OK if you need it to be dumbed down. Can you understand the words in #142? Which ones give you trouble?
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