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Reply #255 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 2:08pm
 
Reply #1 by freediver.
The separation of church and state is an old concept in western civilisation.

It's part of what makes Australia a British democracy. Oz developed by wool growing. Should farmers then get a title such as "Sir, Lord"? Do you want people from outside Europe to call you "boss"? How about "Your Holiness?" ("Your Pomposity" is going a bit far..)
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Reply #256 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 2:35pm
 
chimera wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 1:50pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 1:31pm:
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Then if the prayers were removed, I would not support fencing off Wollumbin.


You are a hypocrite who only pretends to have principles.

Do you think we should burn all books that say you should be put to death for your sins?


I'm agreeing with you about principle. The principle should be equal. How is that hypocritical?
I've said yes to burning the book (as if it has anything at all to do with Wollumbin?).


You are a hypocrit because you seek excuses to abandon your principles at the earliest opportunity. You could easily find 1000 more trivial excuses like reading prayers in parliament, and that sort of spineless evasion would only lead to greater erosion of the separation of church and state. If you actually had principles, you would oppose both on their own merit, as well as the 1000 other petty examples, regardless of how many excuses you could find.

Does your book burning proposal include the Quran?
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Reply #257 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 2:58pm
 
chimera wrote on Aug 18th, 2021 at 9:30pm:
A government should not impose religious views on anyone.


If Quran says chimera/ myself should be put to death, I would burn it. It doesn't. It's a legal book and Islam is legal in NSW (but not in medieval Spain).  It's a principle. Spelled "p r i ncibull".

US Declaration 1776
"That these united Colonies are Free and Independent States;  all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is  totally dissolved;, they have full Power to levy War, "


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Reply #258 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 3:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 2:35pm:
chimera wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 1:50pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 1:31pm:
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Then if the prayers were removed, I would not support fencing off Wollumbin.


You are a hypocrite who only pretends to have principles.

Do you think we should burn all books that say you should be put to death for your sins?


I'm agreeing with you about principle. The principle should be equal. How is that hypocritical?
I've said yes to burning the book (as if it has anything at all to do with Wollumbin?).


You are a hypocrit because you seek excuses to abandon your principles at the earliest opportunity.


Ah, but you cling to principles that don't apply. You just make stuff up, evade questions and play no-speaka-da-English.

A jellyfish can cling to a fixed object. That doesn't give it a spine.

What sound does a jellyfish on a piece of driftwood make?
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Reply #259 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 3:28pm
 
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It's a legal book and Islam is legal in NSW (but not in medieval Spain).


Do you think any book that calls for people to be put to death for committing a sin is currently illegal?

Or just trying to hand over responsibility for your thoughts to the government?
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Reply #260 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 3:51pm
 
"Illegal" means according to the State, otherwise if I say you're
illegal then any roo shooter can tan your hide.  No such book is now illegal but 2 others are. It's outside this topic and I'm reporting  freediver..to.. to..

"PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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Whereas the Congress of the United States have declared by their act that war exists between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and the dependencies thereof and the United States of America '.
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People died but the Law is Law.  Poms are sinners but can go to Wollumbin Park.  It's the principle of things. Ask Gladys. Or freediver. Wait, he's dead.
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Reply #261 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 4:29pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 2:35pm:
You are a hypocrit because you seek excuses to abandon your principles at the earliest opportunity.



I've been here over ten years and never once did you start a thread denouncing the lords prayer in parliament for imposing their religious views on everyone else .... admit it, you're only worried about principles when it helps your bigotry
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Reply #262 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 5:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 3:28pm:
Do you think any book that calls for people to be put to death for committing a sin is currently illegal?


If that's an argument for State interference against a religion then the question is outside freediver's principles. In other words, this person is unprincipled.  What a sinner! How illegal!
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Reply #263 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 5:49pm
 
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I've been here over ten years and never once did you start a thread denouncing the lords prayer in parliament for imposing their religious views on everyone else


Because that is not what is happening. What religious views do you think are being imposed, and who are they being imposed on?

Chimera, what two books are illegal, and why do you think it is relevant that the Quran is legal?
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Reply #264 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 6:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 5:49pm:
What religious views do you think are being imposed, and who are they being imposed on?

Chimera, what two books are illegal, and why do you think it is relevant that the Quran is legal?


The Lord's Prayer, also called the Our Father is a central Christian prayer.  Christianity is an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.  Her Excellency the Honourable Margaret Beazley AC QC Governor of New South Wales is the Governor of New South Wales where she is the Governor. Of NSW.  Parliament is a French word but British are stupid like that.  "Notre Père qui est aux Cieux" would be used in nouvelle galles du sud.

The religious views in parliaments are imposed on people who are non-Christian. You can't read, so there's no point in repeating this, is there?

The banned books are irrelevant to the topic.
As the Quran is not banned and illegal, there's no call from me to burn one. That's a different matter from imposing or blocking a religion, which you say is wrong for parliament to do anyway.

"PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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Whereas the Congress of the United States have declared by their act that war exists between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and the dependencies thereof and the United States of America '.
James Madison  1812"

The US declared war on Australia, the holy terrorists.
George Washington and Maj. Pierre L’Enfant cast the original vision for a unifying “great church for national purposes” in the early days of the republic, though it was another century before the first stones were set for the National Cathedral Washington DC, death to ozzies and mad George.
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Reply #265 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:06pm
 
Careful, Chimera, with answers like that, FD will accuse you of evasion.
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Reply #266 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:17pm
 
I invaded no-one. Indigenous devotees invaded parliament with Make Aboriginals Great Again, not on their knees.   Maybe parliament shouldn't impose religion, Gladys should not impose covid and freediver is not literate. However, that's what we live with and tomorrow the sun rises on Wollumbin, banana skins and pollie prayers.
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Reply #267 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:52pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 5:49pm:
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I've been here over ten years and never once did you start a thread denouncing the lords prayer in parliament for imposing their religious views on everyone else


Because that is not what is happening.


nor is it happening with Mt warning

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Reply #268 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 9:00pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:52pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 5:49pm:
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I've been here over ten years and never once did you start a thread denouncing the lords prayer in parliament for imposing their religious views on everyone else


Because that is not what is happening.


nor is it happening with Mt warning

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No, but that shouldn't stop anyone trying to start a race war - sorry, erstwhile political debate - on Gladys being a devious racist sexist Boong-lover.

And we all know what happens if you don't agree, no?

Exactly. What sound does a jellyfish make?
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Reply #269 - Aug 22nd, 2021 at 9:11pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 7:52pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2021 at 5:49pm:
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I've been here over ten years and never once did you start a thread denouncing the lords prayer in parliament for imposing their religious views on everyone else


Because that is not what is happening.


nor is it happening with Mt warning

Roll Eyes


So you are criticising me for not denouncing something that only happened in your imagination? Have you drunk Chimera's cool aid?

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The banned books are irrelevant to the topic.


You brought them up. What are they?

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As the Quran is not banned and illegal, there's no call from me to burn one.


You didn't say you wanted to burn illegal books, you said you wanted to ban books that call for you to be killed for your sins. Do you understand the difference?
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