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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #570 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:41pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:10pm:

And dividie imagines that the entire world is made up of scientific 'progress' and all the parts that go into creating a society and culture in which those can flourish are nothing... society, culture, and progress - REAL progress in anything - are a matter of TEAM work.

To be exact: the world is governed by competing ideologies which attempt to allocate resources according to their own perceived self interest, while employing the latest research and development - as far as these ideologies can access it - from scientists and engineers.

As for "team work", what is needed today is global teamwork and co-operation. Ouch - anathema to a Libertarian....

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Truly a child lost in a very big landscape... your understanding of the world is that of a child... that's why - long ago - I asked if you were autistic.... surely you cannot be an adult.....

Ok, so self-interested greed and competition must rule the world ....because 'that's who we are'...

Carry on....

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #571 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:41pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:17pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:10pm:

OMG - sounds like a new type of cat food .... Mattywisk.... Get YOUR Cat on the Fat now!

And dividie imagines that the entire world is made up of scientific 'progress' and all the parts that go into creating a society and culture in which those can flourish are nothing... society, culture, and progress - REAL progress in anything - are a matter of TEAM work.

Truly a child lost in a very big landscape... your understanding of the world is that of a child... that's why - long ago - I asked if you were autistic.... surely you cannot be an adult.....

You confessed too, Grappler, so don't be naughty.

Now that kind of nonsense is precisely why nobody but the deluded ever reads any long-winded dissertation you may have made, after the manner of some Lidia Thorpe Insanity.

I'm sorry - did you have an actual point to make or is this just more munched anchovies a la cat food? In amongst all your endless non-directional verbiage that brings the whole place into disrepute, nobody can really tell..... but thanks for coming.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #572 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:50pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:10pm:

And dividie imagines that the entire world is made up of scientific 'progress' and all the parts that go into creating a society and culture in which those can flourish are nothing... society, culture, and progress - REAL progress in anything - are a matter of TEAM work.

To be exact: the world is governed by competing ideologies which attempt to allocate resources according to their own perceived self interest, while employing the latest research and development - as far as these ideologies can access it - from scientists and engineers.

As for "team work", what is needed today is global teamwork and co-operation. Ouch - anathema to a Libertarian....

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Truly a child lost in a very big landscape... your understanding of the world is that of a child... that's why - long ago - I asked if you were autistic.... surely you cannot be an adult.....

Ok, so self-interested greed and competition must rule the world ....because 'that's who we are'...

Carry on....

Your limits due to your autism show more than clearly in your assumption that there is either black or white... it's either your way or your mythical 'self-interested greed and competition'.....

That's why you get no followers and no real responses - you never offer a reliable solution - like several others here - but paste away at the same old nonsense over and over.

Clearly you are either a simple troll or an infant in one way or another..... you simply have no idea. Schoolkid ideology and drama and understanding of the world.

Where are your long overdue solutions to the Abo problems apart from 'give them all a job' - i.e. force them into your very own much-despised 'self-interested greed and competition' - but in their case given their circumstances - often chosen by themselves - just give them the pay and pretend the job is there... the special privilege of a pretend job .... and leave them to spend it wisely...

They don't WANT to do a Mad Dogs and Engishmen and go out working in that midday sun etc.... they've got it made.... the women do the work, they get paid for doing nothing, they can do what they want when they want, they can f

u

ck all night as they want with whom they want, if they're short they can steal from the liquor store, go to the charities for a feed, whine at the government about how tough they've got it and get more ($100m a day), conserve their energy all day so they can drink and f

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ck and fight all night in the cool .... only a White Man would want to destroy such an idyllic lifestyle....

Jobs for the Abos = more piss money.....

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #573 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:53pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:17pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:10pm:

OMG - sounds like a new type of cat food .... Mattywisk.... Get YOUR Cat on the Fat now!

And dividie imagines that the entire world is made up of scientific 'progress' and all the parts that go into creating a society and culture in which those can flourish are nothing... society, culture, and progress - REAL progress in anything - are a matter of TEAM work.

Truly a child lost in a very big landscape... your understanding of the world is that of a child... that's why - long ago - I asked if you were autistic.... surely you cannot be an adult.....

You confessed too, Grappler, so don't be naughty.

Now that kind of nonsense is precisely why nobody but the deluded ever reads any long-winded dissertation you may have made, after the manner of some Lidia Thorpe Insanity.

I'm sorry - did you have an actual point to make or is this just more munched anchovies a la cat food? In amongst all your endless non-directional verbiage that brings the whole place into disrepute, nobody can really tell..... but thanks for coming.

Sorry, are you taking it back?

I'm not sure you can do that, Grappler. One would need some form of conversion first. Road to Damascus, that sort of thing.

You might as well just own it. You're a proud white racist, living on country.

And that's okay.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #574 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 1:12pm

Stick to cat food promotion.... that's the Paki way...

I'm a Proud White Humanist.... I stand for all the genuinely aggrieved against their oppressors....

No Black Dog Call is an Island, entire of itself...
Each is a part of the continent, a portion of the whole....
If a single Black Dog Call falls into the football crowd,
And is unnoticed ..
Then Australia is the less...
Therefore send not to ask for whom the Black Dog Call Tolls
.............. It Tolls For Thee!

Gerard Manly-Warringah Hopkins.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #575 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 1:16pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:50pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 12:10pm:

And dividie imagines that the entire world is made up of scientific 'progress' and all the parts that go into creating a society and culture in which those can flourish are nothing... society, culture, and progress - REAL progress in anything - are a matter of TEAM work.

To be exact: the world is governed by competing ideologies which attempt to allocate resources according to their own perceived self interest, while employing the latest research and development - as far as these ideologies can access it - from scientists and engineers.

As for "team work", what is needed today is global teamwork and co-operation. Ouch - anathema to a Libertarian....

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Truly a child lost in a very big landscape... your understanding of the world is that of a child... that's why - long ago - I asked if you were autistic.... surely you cannot be an adult.....

Ok, so self-interested greed and competition must rule the world ....because 'that's who we are'...

Carry on....

Your limits due to your autism show more than clearly in your assumption that there is either black or white... it's either your way or your mythical '.....

Firstly, "'self-interested greed and competition" are indeed the very basis of human economic organization, otherwise an alternative method of resource mobilization would be the actualizing organisational force - to eradicate poverty (since there is no lack of essential poverty-eradicating resources in the world).

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That's why you get no followers and no real responses - you never offer a reliable solution - like several others here - but paste away at the same old nonsense over and over.

Hey.....I actually had Lisa (!) asking intelligent questions on the MMT thread yesterday....

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Clearly you are either a simple troll or an infant in one way or another..... you simply have no idea. Schoolkid ideology and drama and understanding of the world.

Sorry Graps, in a debate you have to answer each point made by your opponent (aka 'dialectics') to arrive at truth.

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Where are your long overdue solutions to the Abo problems apart from 'give them all a job' - i.e. force them into your very own much-despised 'self-interested greed and competition' - but in their case given their circumstances - often chosen by themselves - just give them the pay and pretend the job is there... the special privilege of a pretend job .... and leave them to spend it wisely...

See the old CDEP scheme, before it was abolished by 'market' ideologues: very successful in creating sober participation in gainful/useful employment.

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They don't WANT to do a Mad Dogs and Engishmen and go out working in that midday sun etc.... they've got it made.... the women do the work, they get paid for doing nothing, they can do what they want when they want, they can f

u

ck all night as they want with whom they want, if they're short they can steal from the liquor store, go to the charities for a feed, whine at the government about how tough they've got it and get more ($100m a day), conserve their energy all day so they can drink and f

u

ck and fight all night in the cool .... only a White Man would want to destroy such an idyllic lifestyle....

Jobs for the Abos = more piss money.....

https://media.tenor.com/mW38fLs0y14AAAAM/spit-laugh.gif

Refuted above, you have been caught hook-line-and-sinker by self-interested market ideologues who nevertheless come running to government when the market fails....

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #576 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 1:20pm

Jesus - another dividie refutation - I don't even bother to read your 'refutation' for the simple reason that I've explained to you endlessly that just saying "No - it's not" is not a refutation.... and you must provide solid factual data and evidence and reasoning based on those in order to refute something.

Jeez, lad - even here in Darkest Australia (you wouldn't know the tip of the social problems here) the High court has held that the opinion of an expert witness must be supported by facts and cannot stand alone... your opinion cannot stand alone.

Debate? This isn't a formal debate, it is an assemblage of views and knowledge - with the emphasis on the latter.... if you have no knowledge to verify your view - you have no view....When are YOU going to provide answers apart from 'give 'em a job'.

Even mothra has the right to a point of view, and the right to have it picked apart..... same as you.

You were saying? Try refuting instead of contradicting.... this isn't schoolyard politics...

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #577 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 1:28pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

Jesus - another dividie refutation - I don't even bother to read your 'refutation' for the simple reason that I've explained to you endlessly that just saying "No - it's not" is not a refutation.... and you must provide solid factual data and evidence and reasoning based on those in order to refute something.

Jeez, lad - even here in Darkest Australia (you wouldn't know the tip of the social problems here) the High court has held that the opinion of an expert witness must be supported by facts and cannot stand alone... your opinion cannot stand alone.

Debate? This isn't a formal debate, it is an assemblage of views and knowledge - with the emphasis on the latter.... if you have no knowledge to verify your view - you have no view....When are YOU going to provide answers apart from 'give 'em a job'.

Even mothra has the right to a point of view, and the right to have it picked apart..... same as you.

You were saying? Try refuting instead of contradicting.... this isn't schoolyard politics...

Nice to see you sobering up a bit.

You're still ridiculous ... but at least you're making sense in your lunacy now. I mean, it's understandable to the eye not that it's a salient point.

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #579 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 1:48pm

mothra wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 1:28pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

Jesus - another dividie refutation - I don't even bother to read your 'refutation' for the simple reason that I've explained to you endlessly that just saying "No - it's not" is not a refutation.... and you must provide solid factual data and evidence and reasoning based on those in order to refute something.

Jeez, lad - even here in Darkest Australia (you wouldn't know the tip of the social problems here) the High court has held that the opinion of an expert witness must be supported by facts and cannot stand alone... your opinion cannot stand alone.

Debate? This isn't a formal debate, it is an assemblage of views and knowledge - with the emphasis on the latter.... if you have no knowledge to verify your view - you have no view....When are YOU going to provide answers apart from 'give 'em a job'.

Even mothra has the right to a point of view, and the right to have it picked apart..... same as you.

You were saying? Try refuting instead of contradicting.... this isn't schoolyard politics...

Nice to see you sobering up a bit.

You're still ridiculous ... but at least you're making sense in your lunacy now. I mean, it's understandable to the eye not that it's a salient point.

Keep trying - we'll call you...... at the moment you're just not suited for the part but we might have something coming up for you ....... NEXT.... (aside) another method actor? Bring her on..... and if she asks me one time what her motivation is meant to be.... grrrrrrr....

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #580 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 2:38pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

Jesus - another dividie refutation - I don't even bother to read your 'refutation' for the simple reason that I've explained to you endlessly that just saying "No - it's not" is not a refutation.... and you must provide solid factual data and evidence and reasoning based on those in order to refute something.

The refutation applied to your nonsense about "Abo laziness"; the achievement of the CDEP in reducing alcoholism and crime refutes your ignorant racism; ie "lazy abos".

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Jeez, lad - even here in Darkest Australia (you wouldn't know the tip of the social problems here) the High court has held that the opinion of an expert witness must be supported by facts and cannot stand alone... your opinion cannot stand alone.

As far as I know, the high court never adjudicated on the CDEP.

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Debate? This isn't a formal debate, it is an assemblage of views and knowledge - with the emphasis on the latter.... if you have no knowledge to verify your view - you have no view....When are YOU going to provide answers apart from 'give 'em a job'.

more correctly: a presentation of opposing views (some less worthy than others; debate is a way for arriving at the usefulness of an idea).

There is a body of knowledge re the CDEP.

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Even mothra has the right to a point of view, and the right to have it picked apart..... same as you.

Correct, but are you refusing the same examination of your own views....

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You were saying? Try refuting instead of contradicting.... this isn't schoolyard politics...

Indeed, it's life and death stuff...like the gap.

I said the CDEP - like Robodebt - hasn't been adjudicated by the high court, refuting your argument that the CDEP has failed because it hasn't been considered by the High Court, or whatever point you thought you were making, to rubbish the CDEP.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #581 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 3:40pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 11:23am:

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 9:59am:

Are you suggesting racism is a popularity contest John?

no, i'm suggesting that you're a dishonest wanker

You and Mothra are being dishonest when you insist you are not racists, then promote government discrimination on the basis of race, then get your panties in a bunch when asked to define racism or tell us whether you think it is racist to discriminate on the basis of race.

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 4:36pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 9:50am:

geez you're a dishonest wanker. You should try asking if anyone agrees with you that what has happened at Mt warning is first racism instead if implying it as a given. You might get more answers.

It's racism - now we can move on

No, it's not. So you'd better stop moving before you trip over your own feet

What is not racism John? Discriminating on the basis of race?

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 4:44pm:

because the MOST systemically disadvantaged happen to be blacks...as confirmed by the egregious gap.

Can you explain what you think is systematic?

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Yes, well it would help if we could get rid of the poverty industry

What do you suggest?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74548 Gender:	Re: Racism Warning Reply #583 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 4:01pm Sorry fd, but picking apart your stupidity is not, nor has it ever been, promoting anything . It's just highlighting the flaws in your argument. Now, shouldn't you organise another protest at Mt Warning. Who knows, maybe next time you can get more protesters than media?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49039 At my desk.	Re: Racism Warning Reply #584 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 4:10pm John don't you think it is a little hypocritical of you to accuse others of dishonesty, when you are compelled to respond in this thread and complain about being labelled racist, but are afraid to say whether you think it is racist to discriminate on the basis of race?
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