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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 46224 Gender:	Re: Racism Warning Reply #645 - Mar 13^th, 2023 at 7:37pm thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 6:14pm: Frank wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:43pm: Aboriginal culture is for stone age tribal people. So they will need assistance to prosper in a money-based economy. No.
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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #646 - Mar 13^th, 2023 at 7:42pm

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 2:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 14^th, 2021 at 12:22pm:

FleaDriver is one of the most bigoted and extreme racists on Ozpolitic.

His purported concern about racism is a sham.

Now now, Laught, FD is also concerned about stoking the fires of sexism.

Here's the Daily Mail's article.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9264447/Mount-Warning-walking-track-clo...

Karnal thinks it is sexist to allow women to dress like this. They should be climbing in a burqa instead.

Just so. How many hits are their articles going to get if their ladies are suitably letterboxed?

But then, how many Google ads are going to get viewed here without the Aboriginal Affairs board?

Freeeeeedom, innit.

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Reply #647 - Mar 13^th, 2023 at 7:46pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 6:14pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:43pm:

[quote] It is not the 'system's, which put the Langtons, Burneys, Grants, Lividias, Dodsons, Davises and Pascoes (!) where they are today.

In fact, all those people successfully transitioned to the money economy - despite the dysfunctional nature of our current money economy which uses unemployment to control wages.

That dysfunctional element of our economy is what I refer to as a 'systems', or systemic, or structural problem, ie the most disadvantaged/least competitve - both black and non-black - are forced onto the unemployment scrap heap.

How?

How did 80 % transition into educated, working 'dysfunction' and 20% dysfunctionals have not transitioned from one Stone Age dysfunction into modern sanitary, healthy, educated, working ' dysfunction'.

You are a mindless sloganeering idiot, parrot. Bbwianesque.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #648 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:13am

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 6:30pm:

In making this decision, is it reasonable for everyone to assume that you support government policy that discriminates on the basis of race? Or is this yet another opinion that you do not allow yourself to have?

Depends on what govt policy you are referring to. So far, despite crying for months about racist government policy, you've failed to show any. You realise that it takes more than a few tears from entitled old men to make it fact, right?

Why does it depend on the policy John? What government policies that discriminate on the basis of race do you support?

Still waiting for you to show racist policy FD ... surely it's not that difficult given the amount of tears you've shed.

Is this just another way of you saying that you are completely lacking in principles and cannot answer until you know what policy you are talking about?

Do you care if others conclude that you are racist?

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Reply #649 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:18am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 8:40am:

Interesting that you are pressing John in this, but you have let my explanation - that the voice is racist by default, not design** - pass without comment.

There is only so many times I will you that you are posting gibberish before I expect you to figure it out for yourself.

Though I do agree with you that it is racist.

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If we want a voice which deals specifically with issues relating to blacks only

What issues would they be?

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this is not "racist" in intent (design)

Are you saying it is not racist because it is true? The law would only reflect the fact that these "issues" only affect aborigines?

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Wow, so that means the electorate, AND the government (executive) are ultimately answerable to the justices (lawyers) in the High Court, whose make up is composed of lawyers who can't agree on the law.

Something wrong there

Welcome to western civilisation TGD. We don't believe in benign dictatorships like the CCP who put themselves above the law.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #650 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 11:23am

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:18am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 8:40am:

Interesting that you are pressing John in this, but you have let my explanation - that the voice is racist by default, not design** - pass without comment.

There is only so many times I will (tell) you that you are posting gibberish before I expect you to figure it out for yourself....though I do agree with you that it is racist.

So let's find the gibberish in this:

1. The desire to close the gap is not racist, accusing blacks of being "lazy abos" (Graps) is racist.

2. Of course a voice specifically designed to deal with black issues - as manifested by the gap - is "racist", by definition.

So you considered my conception of 'design' versus 'default' racism to be gibberish...ok....sorted out for you in points 1 and 2 above.

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If we want a voice which deals specifically with issues relating to blacks only

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What issues would they be?

The issues responsible for the (black) gap, obviously.

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this is not "racist" in intent (design)

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Are you saying it is not racist because it is true? The law would only reflect the fact that these "issues" only affect aborigines?

Addressed above: the black gap only affects blacks, by definition (specifically, those blacks who are affected by the egregious black-gap stats).

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Wow, so that means the electorate, AND the government (executive) are ultimately answerable to the justices (lawyers) in the High Court, whose make up is composed of lawyers who can't agree on the law.

Something wrong there

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Welcome to western civilisation TGD. We don't believe in benign dictatorships like the CCP who put themselves above the law.

Let's see how it plays out in Israel....the cabinet has already 'demoted' the judiciary....and the people (a majority?) are objecting..

How about the possibility of benevolent, meritocratic authority, achieved by consensus instead?

eg, I reckon MMT would largely eliminate the artificial disputes in democracies. And China wouldn't have to fend off Western nonsense about looming debt catastrophes. (The re-elected PBofC chief is a US-trained economist; doesn't bode well for China.

"It's the economy. stupid". Who gives a s**t about democratic "freedoms" when democracies preside over the most vicious entrenched inequality and poverty and disavantage.

At least Xi is promoting 'common propserity ' and 'houses for living in, not investment vehicles for rich people'.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #651 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 4:54pm

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:13am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 6:30pm:

In making this decision, is it reasonable for everyone to assume that you support government policy that discriminates on the basis of race? Or is this yet another opinion that you do not allow yourself to have?

Depends on what govt policy you are referring to. So far, despite crying for months about racist government policy, you've failed to show any. You realise that it takes more than a few tears from entitled old men to make it fact, right?

Why does it depend on the policy John? What government policies that discriminate on the basis of race do you support?

Still waiting for you to show racist policy FD ... surely it's not that difficult given the amount of tears you've shed.

Is this just another way of you saying that you are completely lacking in principles and cannot answer until you know what policy you are talking about?

Do you care if others conclude that you are racist?

FD, do you uphold the use of racism in your campaign against the Boongs?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

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Re: Racism Warning
Reply #652 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 5:27pm

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:13am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 6:30pm:

In making this decision, is it reasonable for everyone to assume that you support government policy that discriminates on the basis of race? Or is this yet another opinion that you do not allow yourself to have?

Depends on what govt policy you are referring to. So far, despite crying for months about racist government policy, you've failed to show any. You realise that it takes more than a few tears from entitled old men to make it fact, right?

Why does it depend on the policy John? What government policies that discriminate on the basis of race do you support?

Still waiting for you to show racist policy FD ... surely it's not that difficult given the amount of tears you've shed.

Is this just another way of you saying that you are completely lacking in principles and cannot answer until you know what policy you are talking about?

Do you care if others conclude that you are racist?

No, this is my way of showing how some morons are capable of crying for months, but are unable to explain what they are crying about.

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Reply #653 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 5:36pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:13am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 6:30pm:

In making this decision, is it reasonable for everyone to assume that you support government policy that discriminates on the basis of race? Or is this yet another opinion that you do not allow yourself to have?

Depends on what govt policy you are referring to. So far, despite crying for months about racist government policy, you've failed to show any. You realise that it takes more than a few tears from entitled old men to make it fact, right?

Why does it depend on the policy John? What government policies that discriminate on the basis of race do you support?

Still waiting for you to show racist policy FD ... surely it's not that difficult given the amount of tears you've shed.

Is this just another way of you saying that you are completely lacking in principles and cannot answer until you know what policy you are talking about?

Do you care if others conclude that you are racist?

No, this is my way of showing how some morons are capable of crying for months, but are unable to explain what they are crying about.

Well, owning real estate, apparently. So unfair, no?

We've given them a rock and a mountain. In return, we got a continent.

Cunning, no?

FD was planning on going there one day - if he could be bothered spending three days driving through all that boring scenery. What's the point of visiting if you can't even buy an I-climbed-Ayers-Rock car sticker?

So, so unfair.

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Reply #654 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:55pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 5:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:13am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 6:30pm:

In making this decision, is it reasonable for everyone to assume that you support government policy that discriminates on the basis of race? Or is this yet another opinion that you do not allow yourself to have?

Depends on what govt policy you are referring to. So far, despite crying for months about racist government policy, you've failed to show any. You realise that it takes more than a few tears from entitled old men to make it fact, right?

Why does it depend on the policy John? What government policies that discriminate on the basis of race do you support?

Still waiting for you to show racist policy FD ... surely it's not that difficult given the amount of tears you've shed.

Is this just another way of you saying that you are completely lacking in principles and cannot answer until you know what policy you are talking about?

Do you care if others conclude that you are racist?

No, this is my way of showing how some morons are capable of crying for months, but are unable to explain what they are crying about.

Well, owning real estate, apparently. So unfair, no?

We've given them a rock and a mountain. In return, we got a continent.

Cunning, no?

FD was planning on going there one day - if he could be bothered spending three days driving through all that boring scenery. What's the point of visiting if you can't even buy an I-climbed-Ayers-Rock car sticker?

So, so unfair.

Again you're having a problem with the truth ... yes?

Just for your edification ..... this is just for the Northern Territory.

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The Aboriginal Land Rights (NT) Act 1976 has enabled Aboriginal people to gain inalienable freehold title to 50 per cent of the Northern Territory and, through the High Court's 2008 Blue Mud Bay decision, about 85 per cent of the NT coastline.

https://www.nlc.org.au/our-land-sea#:~:text=The%20Aboriginal%20Land%20Rights%20(...

You need further illumination regarding the truth yes?

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29532 Gender:	Re: Racism Warning Reply #655 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 7:00pm And to further your edification Karnal not that you'd think you need anything but your own echo chamber ... correct? A simple yes or no would be suffice https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/ng-interactive/2021/may/17/who-owns-a... A rock & a mountain ey? You certainly aint Karnal Knowledge just simply carnal ... yes?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95778 Gender:	Re: Racism Warning Reply #656 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 8:01pm Good point, Gonads. We'll give it back, yes? https://genius.com/Midnight-oil-beds-are-burning-lyrics There you go, FD. Gonads has a point. You?
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Reply #657 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 8:23pm

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:13am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 6:30pm:

In making this decision, is it reasonable for everyone to assume that you support government policy that discriminates on the basis of race? Or is this yet another opinion that you do not allow yourself to have?

Depends on what govt policy you are referring to. So far, despite crying for months about racist government policy, you've failed to show any. You realise that it takes more than a few tears from entitled old men to make it fact, right?

Why does it depend on the policy John? What government policies that discriminate on the basis of race do you support?

Still waiting for you to show racist policy FD ... surely it's not that difficult given the amount of tears you've shed.

Is this just another way of you saying that you are completely lacking in principles and cannot answer until you know what policy you are talking about?

Do you care if others conclude that you are racist?

You're not the only one allowed to be wrong all the time. If others want to join you what do I care.

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Reply #658 - Mar 15^th, 2023 at 7:38am

Karnal wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Good point, Gonads. We'll give it back, yes?

https://genius.com/Midnight-oil-beds-are-burning-lyrics

There you go, FD. Gonads has a point.

You?

I'd suggest Midnight Oil & that St. Vitus Dance virtue signaler Garrett aren't relevant ... you?

What's that about a rock & a mountain again?

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Reply #659 - Mar 15^th, 2023 at 11:09am

Gnads wrote on Mar 15^th, 2023 at 7:38am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Good point, Gonads. We'll give it back, yes?

https://genius.com/Midnight-oil-beds-are-burning-lyrics

There you go, FD. Gonads has a point.

You?

I'd suggest Midnight Oil & that St. Vitus Dance virtue signaler Garrett aren't relevant ... you?

What's that about a rock & a mountain again?

King of the Mountain I think, Gonads. From the album Blue Sky Mining.

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Yellow belly black snake sleeping on a red rock
Waiting for the stranger to go

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Over liquid tarmac wastelands of cactus and heat
Down cobblestone alleyways of washing day sheets
Up ghost prairie mountains of sunset and space

Down the road, a familiar place, across the wilderness
Out further than the bush, I will follow you
I will follow you, I will follow you

Blue Sky Mine's another classic. Who else has ever even thought to write about the harshness of the Australian landscape and economy? Who else has even deigned to leave the city?

From the song Blue Sky Mine:

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The candy store paupers lie to the share holders
They're crossing their fingers they pay the truth makers
The balance sheet is breaking up the sky
So I'm caught at the junction still waiting for medicine
The sweat of my brow keeps on feeding the engine
Hope the crumbs in my pocket can keep me for another night
And if the blue sky mining company won't come to my rescue
If the sugar refining company won't save me
Who's gonna save me?
Who's gonna save me?
Who's gonna save me?

The sweat on my brow keeps on feeding the engine, the balance sheet is breaking up the sky.

Some of the best lyrics ever written about Australia. Up there with Lawson and Patterson, in my humble opinion.

I say we put them on the old boy's citizenship test.

You?

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