thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 10:46am:


Who's "we"? All non-Aborigines?

What is the role of the 80% Aborigines who don't experience a "gap"?
What is the role of the 20 % great do?  Is there anything they might need to do?

You are now saying that we need to close the gap between the lumpen proletariat and the rest of society and it's just a mystery why 20% of Aborigines are at the bottom of the lumpen proletariat.  Nuffin to do wiv race, muffin to do wiv kultcha, nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.

Just copy China, guarantee make belief jobs for the unemployable blacks, pay for it by printing monopoly money and Bingo! common prosperity!

That was easy.  Thanks, Chairman Xi Who Must Be Obeyed.
Next week we learn to play the Chinese flute and how to perform DIY frontal lobotomy for organ transplants purposes.

Why do Abos live ten years fewer than others?

Because they kill one another at a higher rate ... they choose lifestyles that are unhealthy and often dangerous to health .... they neglect children which often leads to a shorter lifespan for those children ... they chose in many cases to live in remote areas where even the best flying ambulance service in the world, all free for them, has a lead time of hours in responding to an emergency .... many groups refuse to be part of the civilisation around them and thus they die of treatable illnesses ...  because they start rooting at too young an age leading to a huge rate of stillbirth and infant mortality and young women death ...because they are stupid enough to wage a brushfire war (sic) against a much stronger nation that is beginning to wake up .... one day someone will smash their windows out at Mt Warning...... how'll that go?

Can't be much dumber than that, eh?

"The voting public will scornfully reject proponents of a referendum whose main arguments are vicious slurs. They will fear they are next."

Just so.


Another commenter:

Firsts let us define what it is to be aboriginal……and who exactly is the voice for ?
Is it those aboriginals that we actually think about as aboriginals when we hear of the disadvantaged, living in those dysfunctional, dystopian remote communities or is it the elites aboriginals the lawyers , professors, doctors and the highly paid public servants living in our neighbourhoods suffering no discrimination or disadvantage, because unless they tell us , we really have no idea of their ancestry.
We may have 800.000 people declaring that that are aboriginal, but does that mean they need and extra voice in the way our country is governed ?
Show us all how this voice will stop one woman or child being abused, get one more child an education that will allow them to live within the mainstream Australian lifestyle rather than condemn them to life in a dysfunctional cultural environment with no real future.
When those proponents for this voice will share their plans for lifting those in most need out of the destructive despairing situations that they live in then perhaps I will start to listen , until then I’m simply not interested in in extra voice for a bunch of elites.

Spot on.

Gnads wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 8:54am:


"Noel Pearson is an Australian lawyer, academic, land rights activist and founder of the Cape York Institute for Policy and Leadership, an organisation promoting the economic and social development of Cape York."

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 8:58am:

And his achievements in Cape York?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 9:12am:


Ok, let's look at my very first response (apart from self-inflicted violence causing lower life expectancy), and see if it is valid...

I responded: "We have explored that issue of "choice" before: people don't "choose" to become alcoholics; external forces influence personal choices."

How is that truth not valid?

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Well, your error here resulted from you not reading what I said, which was: "Decent primary health practices and facilities  obviate the regular need for that type  of emergency treatment"

Perhaps I should not have added the words 'and facilities'...in any case please note:

primary health care ( NOT "first class hospitals") refers to implementing healthy community practices which engender good health, obviating the need for expensive secondary health treatments (in 'first class hospitals' etc).

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Your errors exposed above, again.

Frank wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 10:33am:


It's certainly a key issue which the deplorable RW refuses to acknowledge, because it means the economic system has an effect on individual's lives (eg central banks jacking up interest rates to deliberately engineer job losses, because that's the only tool the deluded bastards have to control inflation).   


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The people who are NOT forced onto the unemployment scrap-heap by external forces (geo-political or economic) survive with their self-esteem intact. Not everyone can mentally cope with unemployment   

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Given the right circumstances, all of us "choose" those  things.

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That is HALF the reality, yes, the half you refuse to confront and deal with, because it punches holes in your individual sovereignty delusions.


"No one is self-sufficient; everyone relies on others".