Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15
th, 2021 at 12:08am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14
th, 2021 at 11:38pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 14
th, 2021 at 9:24pm:
Can you idiots get your story straight?
COVID is harmless, but when you're trying to be anti-vax, they don't work and you will die from COVID...
Which is it?
What I can't get my head around, is how every Govt and every medical organisation in the world is in on this hoax .
Who said it's a hoax in this thread?
Of course those who don't want to talk about things throw out words like Climate Denier, anti vaxxer and Islamophobe to silence any debate on those subjects and not allow critical thoughts.
If you're over 70 or Obese or have Diabetes or a combination of underlying conditions this could be a very bad thing to catch.
Not anti vax keep in mind none of the Kung Flu vaccinations have FDA approval Fizzer is unlikely to get it people should be allowed to talk about this or any other subject to make informed decisions.
Israel is now giving booster shots to double vaxxed people the first 2 don't woek that well. From what i have seen i wouldn't be waiting for Fizzer.
The CDC recntly admitted those who are fully vaxxed can still get Kung Flu and spread it which is why they have brought back asking people to mask up again. How will these vaccine passports work when vaxxed people can still catch and transmit the Kung Flu?
The CDC data shows unvaxxed people under 70 have a 99.5% survival rate, if the vax was 100% effective how many people under 70 would be saved if everyone got vaxxed?
The vaccines from Fizzer Moderna and AZ only target the spike protein teaching your immune system to fight that they are non sterilising vaccines that don't target the whole virus.
Those who have caught covid and recovered have immune systems that target the whole virus instead of just one part. That's not how antibodies work, they cannot recognise what they cannot see, ie, the inside of the virus. What they recognise and target are the proteins that encase the virus, the proteins in the shell, once antibodies attack the virus, the whole virus is destroyed.
Quote:Via antibodies
Viruses can also be removed from the body by antibodies before they get the chance to infect a cell. Antibodies are proteins that specifically recognise invading pathogens and bind (stick) to them. This binding serves many purposes in the eradication of the virus:
Firstly, the antibodies neutralise the virus, meaning that it is no longer capable of infecting the host cell.
Secondly, many antibodies can work together, causing virus particles to stick together in a process called agglutination. Agglutinated viruses make an easier target for immune cells than single viral particles.
A third mechanism used by antibodies to eradicate viruses, is the activation of phagocytes. A virus-bound antibody binds to receptors, called Fc receptors, on the surface of phagocytic cells and triggers a mechanism known as phagocytosis, by which the cell engulfs and destroys the virus.
Finally, antibodies can also activate the complement system, which opsonises and promotes phagocytosis of viruses. Complement can also damage the envelope (phospholipid bilayer) that is present on some types of virus
https://www.immunology.org/public-information/bitesized-immunology/pathogens-and...