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Some ecological impacts of AGW
Aug 15^th, 2021 at 10:20am

Some places will soon be too hot to grow wheat. So what are farmers there supposed to grow? Sorghum?

Different wine grape varieties and grapes from different subregions are all ripening closer and closer together, making winery management more complex. The Barossa Valley floor is getting so hot that old varieties are being ripped out and more heat tolerant varieties like Fiano are being planted—how long will that help? It is no wonder that the Adelaide Hills Wine Area is emerging as a classic wine area—but for how long?

Honey bees are being stressed: AGW making the days too hot and dry for bees, there are predatory and parasitical pest species targeting honey bee hives. In the US bumble bee populations are declining. Monoculture, huge swathes of one crop (some genetically identical) are thought to lead to nutrient deficiencies. Without pollinators say goodbye to fruit other than tomatoes, no apples, peaches, oranges etc. Tomato and wheat are wind pollinated, not so other crops.

AGW melts land ice and thermally expands the top layers of the oceans, this leads to floods, saltwater incursion into coastal agricultural land, etc.

—Just some topics the Environment board could discuss, IF it had a competent Mod.

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Re: Some ecological impacts of AGW
Reply #1 - Aug 15^th, 2021 at 10:29am

The tropics will soon become uninhabitable—look up “wet bulb temperatures.”

The tundra is thawing because of AGW. Look for huge natural releases of methane and possible old pest bacteria awakening and spreading—we now know what that is like, eh?

AGW by making the subtropics warmer is helping pest species expand from the tropics to the subtropics.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 46201 Gender:	Re: Some ecological impacts of AGW Reply #2 - Aug 15^th, 2021 at 4:46pm Must be other ecological subjects worth discussing. We are in a pandemic—be worth looking at previous pandemics—how they started and spread, what successful actions were taken against them etc. Nothing more topical than pandemic in this age of mass air travel. Anyone. . .?
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Re: Some ecological impacts of AGW
Reply #3 - Aug 15^th, 2021 at 5:37pm

Here is a great article talking about river ecology, AGW causing drought, hydroelectricy generation etc in the Colorado River in the Grand Canyon.

Increasing drought is what the southern half of Australia faces and the Murray and Darling are in trouble just like the Colorado River is.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/08082021/grand-canyon-colorado-river-water-dr...

When Environment has a decent Mod we can discuss that instead of ice age nonsense.

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Re: Some ecological impacts of AGW
Reply #4 - Aug 15^th, 2021 at 8:22pm

Ah yes all those problems in some ill defined alternate future. Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

Increasing drought is what the southern half of Australia faces and the Murray and Darling are in trouble just like the Colorado River is.

So irrigation is a problem? Dams are a problem? And yet people want to build more dams. Wink

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Reply #5 - Aug 15^th, 2021 at 9:10pm

lee wrote on Aug 15^th, 2021 at 8:22pm:

Ah yes all those problems in some ill defined alternate future. Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

Increasing drought is what the southern half of Australia faces and the Murray and Darling are in trouble just like the Colorado River is.

So irrigation is a problem? Dams are a problem? And yet people want to build more dams. Wink

What is your problem with a dam? Once its full, the excess water which is an eternal tap from the sky (other than in a drought) ....spills out of the dam to go downstream.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 46201 Gender:	Re: Some ecological impacts of AGW Reply #6 - Aug 15^th, 2021 at 9:14pm The southern half of the continent is drying out. The Murray is in the southern half of the continent. Honestly, it is like talking to a child, an autistic child.
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Reply #7 - Aug 16^th, 2021 at 12:32pm

More than that, it is like talking to an autistic child with dementia—when I posted an Intro to AGW (for the second time, the first time a farqwit GMod moved it the Dubyne MRB) the autistic child wanted to argue what I had posted—even tho we had argued this before in the Dubyne MRB. Hence lee’s ban from Gardens and Critters.

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Reply #8 - Aug 16^th, 2021 at 2:12pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 12:32pm:

Hence lee’s ban from Gardens and Critters.

The ban was nothing to do with that. It was to do with Ice loss in Antarctica. Why this pathological need to lie?

Something that he has deleted so there is now no proof. What a prevaricating clown. Grin

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lee is banned indefinitely from Critters and Gardens. "

Just in case he disappears this now. Wink

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Re: Some ecological impacts of AGW
Reply #9 - Aug 16^th, 2021 at 2:33pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 15^th, 2021 at 9:10pm:

What is your problem with a dam? Once its full, the excess water which is an eternal tap from the sky (other than in a drought) ....spills out of the dam to go downstream.

And what happens in the intervening period between build and overflow? How many years? What does that do to downstream farming? What about flooding upstream pastures?

But have a look at he Green's policy on dams.

https://greens.org.au/search/node?keys=dams

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 46201 Gender:	Re: Some ecological impacts of AGW Reply #10 - Aug 16^th, 2021 at 2:55pm It was to do with you being tiresome and wanting to debate stuff already discussed and that included ice loss from Antarctica. And Critters and Gardens is not the place for that debate. Why the need to discuss then discuss then discuss? Desperate lee the autistic child with dementia.
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Reply #11 - Aug 16^th, 2021 at 4:51pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

It was to do with you being tiresome and wanting to debate stuff already discussed and that included ice loss from Antarctica. And Critters and Gardens is not the place for that debate.

And yet you raised it. Grin

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

Why the need to discuss then discuss then discuss? Desperate lee the autistic child with dementia.

Poor petal. How soon he forgets. The poor penguins apparently died because they had to cover an extra 2-3 metres. Grin

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Re: Some ecological impacts of AGW
Reply #12 - Aug 16^th, 2021 at 6:09pm

Of course, as usual, he had it bass ackwards.

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 31^st, 2021 at 2:59pm:

The land ice slid off and became sea ice, forcing the penguins to travel much further overland to reach the sea.

I suggest you drop that idiotic way of posting or face a ban from here. You are just a waste of time with a few ways of obfuscating and closing down debate.

So if it slid off and became sea ice - surely that means they have less travel to the new ice edge because the old ice edge is now sea ice. Roll Eyes

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16138 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Some ecological impacts of AGW Reply #13 - Aug 17^th, 2021 at 10:59am How many doomsday predictions from the loony climate fanatics have come true? Funny that.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 46201 Gender:	Re: Some ecological impacts of AGW Reply #14 - Aug 17^th, 2021 at 11:22am Globe is warming at 0.2°C per decade. Most of your “predictions” have not been made by scientists.
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