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Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:44am
 
Check it out. The vaxed are spreading the plague and then blaming everyone else Sad

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Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers

A preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

A groundbreaking preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, includes alarming findings devastating to the COVID vaccine rollout.

The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

While moderating the symptoms of infection, the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders.

This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally.

The paper’s authors, Chau et al, demonstrated widespread vaccine failure and transmission under tightly controlled circumstances in a hospital lockdown in Ho Chi Minh City, Viet Nam.

The scientists studied healthcare workers who were unable to leave the hospital for two weeks. The data showed that fully vaccinated workers — about two months after injection with the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine (AZD1222) — acquired, carried and presumably transmitted the Delta variant to their vaccinated colleagues.

They almost certainly also passed the Delta infection to susceptible unvaccinated people, including their patients. Sequencing of strains confirmed the workers transmitted SARS-CoV-2 to one another.

This is consistent with the observations in the U.S. from Farinholt and colleagues, and congruent with comments by the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conceding COVID-19 vaccines have failed to stop transmission of SARS-CoV-2.   


On Feb. 11, the World Health Organization indicated the AZD1222 vaccine efficacy of 63.09% against the development of symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. The conclusions of the Chau paper support the warnings by leading medical experts that the partial, non-sterilizing immunity from the three notoriously “leaky” COVID-19 vaccines allow carriage of 251 times the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 as compared to samples from the pre-vaccination era in 2020.

Thus, we have a key piece to the puzzle explaining why the Delta outbreak is so formidable — fully vaccinated are participating as COVID-19 patients and acting as powerful Typhoid Mary-style super-spreaders of the infection.

Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new COVID surges. Vaccinated healthcare workers are almost certainly infecting their coworkers and patients, causing horrendous collateral damage.

Continued vaccination will only make this problem worse, particularly among frontline doctors and nurses workers who are caring for vulnerable patients.

Health systems should drop vaccine mandates immediately, take stock of COVID-19 recovered workers who are robustly immune to Delta and consider the ramifications of their current vaccinated healthcare workers as potential threats to high risk patients and coworkers.


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat...

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #1 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am
 
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta

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Reply #2 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am
 
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta



You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills Sad I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines Cheesy LOL
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #3 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta



You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills Sad I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines Cheesy LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.
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Reply #4 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm
 
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta



You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills Sad I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines Cheesy LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you Cheesy LOL
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #5 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta



You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills Sad I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines Cheesy LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you Cheesy LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science
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Reply #6 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:18pm
 
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta



You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills Sad I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines Cheesy LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you Cheesy LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science


It's useless against the delta variant. It was only designed to immunize against the original strain so stop telling porkies.
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #7 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:19pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:18pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta



You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills Sad I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines Cheesy LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you Cheesy LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science


It's useless against the delta variant. It was only designed to immunize against the original strain so stop telling porkies.



https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

If by useless you mean about 70-75% effective
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Reply #8 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 2:33pm
 
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:19pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:18pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta



You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills Sad I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines Cheesy LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you Cheesy LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science


It's useless against the delta variant. It was only designed to immunize against the original strain so stop telling porkies.



https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

If by useless you mean about 70-75% effective


you really believe your own bullshit mucus Cheesy LOL

come on where's groggary and dumbarse smith Cheesy LOL
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Reply #9 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 3:00pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 2:33pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:19pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:18pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta



You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills Sad I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines Cheesy LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you Cheesy LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science


It's useless against the delta variant. It was only designed to immunize against the original strain so stop telling porkies.



https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

If by useless you mean about 70-75% effective


you really believe your own bullshit mucus Cheesy LOL

come on where's groggary and dumbarse smith Cheesy LOL



By bullshit you mean published peer reviewed.

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Reply #10 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 3:21pm
 
Nail, do you realise you're spreading fake news probably generated by state sponsored Russian/Chinese troll farms?
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Reply #11 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 6:31pm
 
Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 3:21pm:
Nail, do you realise you're spreading fake news probably generated by state sponsored Russian/Chinese troll farms?


why because it doesn't agree with you Cheesy LOL
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Reply #12 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 7:12pm
 
The OP does not quite grasp the fact that according to his own source vaccinated people are carrying the virus with no problems. It's the unvaccinated who have issues.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #13 - Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:16pm
 
The article highlights a few important points.
1. Coronavirus is real, and its measurable.
2. The vaccine does work, to reduce the mortality amoung front line health workers. 
3. The health workers tirelessly and bravely fought against the virus to save people just like me and you.  They are like angels who know they are risking their own lives, working overtime, facing an environment with far more viral load than out in the public.
4. Such bravery, such sacrifice, and yet here you are... whining about getting vaccinated, trying to find any excuse not to do your bit to help relieve at least some of their burden and load. 
5. You talk about your own personal freedom being taking away.  How about the freedoms of those healthcare workers?  All you had to do is to social distance, wear mask, and get vaccinated, they had to do all of that, and not able to see their family, or have a break. 

Think about it.
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Reply #14 - Aug 25th, 2021 at 8:25am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:18pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 12:08pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 11:49am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:54am:
John Dillermand wrote on Aug 24th, 2021 at 10:50am:
Its the wrong conclusion to reach from this paper.


Its about suggesting that vaccines aren't effective to Delta



You're a super spreader mucus. Just admit that you are doing more damage than repair. And you want to inject everyone with that sh.t. You're a doofus mucus along with the rest of the brain dead MSM shills Sad I can see lots of class actions coming out of this. The ambulance chasers are just warming up their engines Cheesy LOL



I can see in here a scientifically balanced response to my logical point.



Nothing to say mucus. Highly unlike you Cheesy LOL


Well its not my problem I pointed out the flaw in the analysis of the paper not being about vaccinated spreaders but about breakthrough cases with Delta, and you had nothing of value other than MSM CTer rubbish in return.


Try producing science


It's useless against the delta variant. It was only designed to immunize against the original strain so stop telling porkies.




Immunise we are aussies. Secondly the delta variant has the same spike protein that the original had. So immunisation shjould wrk

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02039-y
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